Brain Drain; Who Else to Blamed? America/Au/Canada?
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Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
To answer the topic directly, the government has to take part of the blame.
To address brain drain issue - import more foreign talent. Frankly, I've never seen a better answer than this.
Does this address the brain drain issue? Yes.
But does this address the main issue of Singapore losing her citizens? I doubt so.
And I think part of the answer lies with us. Do we exactly see Singapore as our home?
No point in importation of second and third class foreign talents at the expense of local talents.
The part of the answer doesn't lie with locals , it lies with the government and the flow down effect of their policies. It is known that their multimillion dollar salaries and FT policies did not sit well with the populance but still they went ahead and do it.
Several years back,I asked an MP about the FT policy- he gave some cock and bull twist about Singaporeans shunning jobs that pay lowly. However when I pointed out that foreign students recruited by Singapore in our local institutions getting more chances at scholarship than the locals , he went back to talking about bangladeshi workers. Why? Because he couldn't answer it.
With no empowerment and the top down orders from the ivory tower, how do you expect individuals in the community to feel a belonging?
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pls tell them to stop f3rking recruits in ns, its the main reason for the brai drain
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Originally posted by fymk:
No point in importation of second and third class foreign talents at the expense of local talents.
The part of the answer doesn't lie with locals , it lies with the government and the flow down effect of their policies. It is known that their multimillion dollar salaries and FT policies did not sit well with the populance but still they went ahead and do it.
Several years back,I asked an MP about the FT policy- he gave some cock and bull twist about Singaporeans shunning jobs that pay lowly. However when I pointed out that foreign students recruited by Singapore in our local institutions getting more chances at scholarship than the locals , he went back to talking about bangladeshi workers. Why? Because he couldn't answer it.
With no empowerment and the top down orders from the ivory tower, how do you expect individuals in the community to feel a belonging?
Perhaps it's really the Government, though I'm not really sure on that. Some policies aren't really popular, especially when they don't take into consideration what the general population is taking (e.g FT and casinos).
Eventually, it will still depend on the individual himself. Only they know best if it's the policies or other reasons that lure them away.
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I have been working overseas for 2+ years. My answer to this whole issue of immigration is to follow the money. Look out for number 1 first. Vote with you feet, not your mouth. If you can, elevate yourself to a 'global professional' instead of limiting yourself to Singapore. Don't be fooled by silly propaganda about being 'quitters' etc. If PAP ministers won't work for Singapore unless they are paid astronomical 'private sector' wages, why should you or I work in Singapore and pay taxes to feed them? WAKE UP!
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Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
Perhaps it's really the Government, though I'm not really sure on that. Some policies aren't really popular, especially when they don't take into consideration what the general population is taking (e.g FT and casinos).
Eventually, it will still depend on the individual himself. Only they know best if it's the policies or other reasons that lure them away.
There are good unpopular policies which were made by governments but at the end , the populace see the benefits.
For the ft policy in Singapore, I don't really see the benefits as a common person. We were promised that FTs were people who have the far more global experience than local Singaporeans for competition.
It now seems like the definitional term of FTs have been expanded to foreign workers who have the same level of skill as locals but can undercut locals easily.
Then we have pro-pap nincompoops, who obviously are secured in their ivory tower for now, telling us that if we don't choose to take a smaller salary or do what a FOREIGN WORKER ( not a professional foreigner) does - we are to be blamed for our predicament. It's a load of bull and they know it.
So now some people see it this way , if Singapore can take in second rate quitters and treat them as talents , they can also apply it to themselves.
Global competition can go both ways - as much as you can make it cheaper for companies to operate in Singapore by suppressing wages for the common middle class worker, other countries are offering a higher wage than what companies in Singapore will pay - people will definitely go if they have no attachments in Singapore or just plainly got fed up.
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"It now seems like the definitional term of FTs have been expanded to foreign workers who have the same level of skill as locals but can undercut locals easily."
Agree with fymk. Foreign talents should only refer to "Foreigners with skill sets that Singaporean workers lack". The purpose of bringing them in should be to:
1. Transfer their skill set to Singaporeans
2. Create more jobs for Singaporeans through a win-win amalgamation of skills
Bringing in cheap labour to force wages down is a win-lose situation - Singaporeans lose while foreign talents and MNCs gain. Many countries have labour laws that require foreign workers to be paid at least as much as local workers, to prevent exploitation by companies. In Singapore, the government is in cahoots with companies to sucker workers.
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Originally posted by fymk:
There are good unpopular policies which were made by governments but at the end , the populace see the benefits.
For the ft policy in Singapore, I don't really see the benefits as a common person. We were promised that FTs were people who have the far more global experience than local Singaporeans for competition.
It now seems like the definitional term of FTs have been expanded to foreign workers who have the same level of skill as locals but can undercut locals easily.
Then we have pro-pap nincompoops, who obviously are secured in their ivory tower for now, telling us that if we don't choose to take a smaller salary or do what a FOREIGN WORKER ( not a professional foreigner) does - we are to be blamed for our predicament. It's a load of bull and they know it.
So now some people see it this way , if Singapore can take in second rate quitters and treat them as talents , they can also apply it to themselves.
Global competition can go both ways - as much as you can make it cheaper for companies to operate in Singapore by suppressing wages for the common middle class worker, other countries are offering a higher wage than what companies in Singapore will pay - people will definitely go if they have no attachments in Singapore or just plainly got fed up.
Awesome statement there
I'll move wherever i want and to whichever country gives my future family a better future.
I'm over that "i'm singaporean so i should fight it out in singapore syndrome" ..... only reason to move in and out of Sg is due to the property market ..... (never put all yer eggs in 1 basket)
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Originally posted by fishbuff:
lol. imagine that your sons and daughters are leaving u and instead of reasoning them to think twice, u go out and grab other people to be your children.
rather than admitting his mistakes and achieve reconciliation, he try to make up for the loss instead.
edited: im neither bright nor the best, so they can count me out from the lot mentioned above.
he doesn't seem keen to retain his own people.
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Originally posted by Panache1976:
I have been working overseas for 2+ years. My answer to this whole issue of immigration is to follow the money. Look out for number 1 first. Vote with you feet, not your mouth. If you can, elevate yourself to a 'global professional' instead of limiting yourself to Singapore. Don't be fooled by silly propaganda about being 'quitters' etc. If PAP ministers won't work for Singapore unless they are paid astronomical 'private sector' wages, why should you or I work in Singapore and pay taxes to feed them? WAKE UP!
Clap Clap Clap ... a realist
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Originally posted by lotus999:
he doesn't seem keen to retain his own people.
coz we all are expendable.
if he can treat the sporean talents with such light and unconcerning attitudes, imagine what he will do to the needy and sicks in sg.