Shud we get vaccination for small pox in singapore.
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Read a book written by defected bioweapons scientist.
According to him ever since Jimmy Carter declared small pox eradicated from the world and stopped producing vaccinations for the masses, the russians began increase production of smallpox agents.
According to him smallpox is the easiest to manufacturer, more resistant to environment tempreature, and any body can do it with the simplest unbelievable rudimentry farm/kitchen tools.
Because of so many f#$king islamic symphatiser millitant wannabe I won't list book title or methods here.
To date they only maintain abt 2million vaccinations in the world at all times for scientific purpose/health/military personnel.
Imagine a smallpox attack here with horrific results and we are helpless even medical workers will be at risk.
No wonder the US is putting everyone under the needle. I wonder if singapore government is planning the same. -
20 Excellent Reasons NOT To Take Vaccination!
http://www.drcarley.com/twenty_reasons_not_to_take_small.htm
Some Injured by Smallpox Vaccine Won't Qualify for Compensation
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA0G8C5Q9D.html
Research: Will Millions Already Inoculated Against Smallpox Need New Vaccinations?
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAUAPU3Q9D.html
In New World of Smallpox, No Vaccinations Available For Children Without A Bio-Terror Attack
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGABV053Q9D.html
2cents of thinking.....
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duotiga83,
dun think I will be concern whether I will be eligible to claim compensation, more likly are we prepared for such an event. An attack will cripple everything, so even your compensation also no use.
We are not talking abt naturally recurring smallpox viruses in the wild we're talking abt stronger more resistant manufactured strains.
Something like anthrax or sarin more difficult to make req clean room facilities so not scared, the militants in the region mostly bandit wannabes do not have the kind of financial muscle or know how to make them.
Anybody knows where one can get a vaccination jab for smallpox? -
Globalisation means the world is linked up.
We, today, do not live alone anymore.
Suppose all singaporeans hav the vaccination...but remember the poorer countries, where got the dollar to buy the vaccine.
When other countries are infected, say Saudi Arabia, that's it...oil prices will soar...
Also, the kind of bio attack agents are more than just smallpox...there is a whole list of it... how many vaccinations u need then?
Hence, dont really blame the US for being paranoid abt Osama, North Korea, iraq and iran... nuclear warheads have been bought out from. it is through financial constraints tat can help in a way to disable them to exploit nuclear, chemical and biological warfare.
Do u know if u were to apprehend a terrorist, the terrorists expert will tell u it is ok to kill him...else u and the rest will be killed.
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Originally posted by paulho:duotiga83,
dun think I will be concern whether I will be eligible to claim compensation, more likly are we prepared for such an event. An attack will cripple everything, so even your compensation also no use.
i'm not talking about tt.....is just tt some ppl are not able to withstand the jab..not all r capable to take the injection..just as the webby has said....
We are not talking abt naturally recurring smallpox viruses in the wild we're talking abt stronger more resistant manufactured strains. well it takes yrs to produce the vaccine...but more of these bio/chem of its new variants will produce somehow....
Something like anthrax or sarin more difficult to make req clean room facilities so not scared, the militants in the region mostly bandit wannabes do not have the kind of financial muscle or know how to make them. eehh..may i know where ur base is as i have no idea this will come out....
Anybody knows where one can get a vaccination jab for smallpox? no idea...if the dae comes...well..u will know it.... -
Frankly if poorer countries cannot buy then it's their governments problem. But we on the other hand an ally of US, I think we must take more precaution.Originally posted by sgboy2004:Globalisation means the world is linked up.
We, today, do not live alone anymore.
Suppose all singaporeans hav the vaccination...but remember the poorer countries, where got the dollar to buy the vaccine.
When other countries are infected, say Saudi Arabia, that's it...oil prices will soar...
Also, the kind of bio attack agents are more than just smallpox...there is a whole list of it... how many vaccinations u need then?
Hence, dont really blame the US for being paranoid abt Osama, North Korea, iraq and iran... nuclear warheads have been bought out from. it is through financial constraints tat can help in a way to disable them to exploit nuclear, chemical and biological warfare.
Do u know if u were to apprehend a terrorist, the terrorists expert will tell u it is ok to kill him...else u and the rest will be killed.
I agree there is a huge list of bio agents out there, but as I mention in the thread. Agents like anthrax or sarin and others are harder to manufacturer and need clean room facilities and even then it still has a high rate of failure during breeding stages.
Just like growing edible mushroom, take a spore of shitake mushroom try to grow it on rice in your bedroom, if other bacteria in the air dun take it out the humidity tempreature most likly will, just like anthrax or vx or sarin you need proper facilities and this costs money .. money which bandits dun have.
The japanese doom cult Aum(somting) confessed they tried twice using a van with a chimney on top to disperse weaker strain of anthrax in a tokyo traffic into the air and it failed.
Smallpox on other hand is easier to manufacture dun req much money only the initial strain, resistant to tempreature variance unlike anthrax spreads like wildfire within days when deployed & cripples everything, and the best thing is we dun have even have any stocks of vaccines around. -
There are more other bio agents that is not difficult to make too...Originally posted by paulho:Frankly if poorer countries cannot buy then it's their governments problem. But we on the other hand an ally of US, I think we must take more precaution.
I agree there is a huge list of bio agents out there, but as I mention in the thread. Agents like anthrax or sarin and others are harder to manufacturer and need clean room facilities and even then it still has a high rate of failure during breeding stages.
Just like growing edible mushroom, take a spore of shitake mushroom try to grow it on rice in your bedroom, if other bacteria in the air dun take it out the humidity tempreature most likly will, just like anthrax or vx or sarin you need proper facilities and this costs money .. money which bandits dun have.
The japanese doom cult Aum(somting) confessed they tried twice using a van with a chimney on top to disperse weaker strain of anthrax in a tokyo traffic into the air and it failed.
Smallpox on other hand is easier to manufacture dun req much money only the initial strain, resistant to tempreature variance unlike anthrax spreads like wildfire within days when deployed & cripples everything, and the best thing is we dun have even have any stocks of vaccines around. -
kaoz, this is a horrible world, if we get vaccinated, we got about 1 or 2 in a million chance of being killed by the vaccine itself. . . if we dun, we may get smalpox and die if some idiot decides to spread the virus. . .
personally I think I will support what they are doing in the US, that is vaccine strongly recommended for people in bio-response teams, related healthcare service personnel, people working in companies doing research on such stuff if any, etc, but totally optional for the public, after all, its not a very good idea to scare everyone out of their wits now about the possibility of a smallpox attack, u will have people clamouring for the vaccine all over and then have lawsuits if something goes wrong, best to do it discreetly for those in high risk jobs. . .
btw, Singapore has a few bio banks too, 3 i think. . . some probably store certain viruses too
my two cents -
wow that's news.Originally posted by laser51088:kaoz, this is a horrible world, if we get vaccinated, we got about 1 or 2 in a million chance of being killed by the vaccine itself. . . if we dun, we may get smalpox and die if some idiot decides to spread the virus. . .
personally I think I will support what they are doing in the US, that is vaccine strongly recommended for people in bio-response teams, related healthcare service personnel, people working in companies doing research on such stuff if any, etc, but totally optional for the public, after all, its not a very good idea to scare everyone out of their wits now about the possibility of a smallpox attack, u will have people clamouring for the vaccine all over and then have lawsuits if something goes wrong, best to do it discreetly for those in high risk jobs. . .
btw, Singapore has a few bio banks too, 3 i think. . . some probably store certain viruses too
my two cents -
yes! we should get vaccined
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I gt small pox when young from my sister..then till nw i haven got chicken pox.....................haiz...i tink older ppl get chicken pox more dangerous
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Reports of Side Effects Will Weaken Smallpox Vaccine Demand
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20021216/4703421s.htm
Shots Said To Cut Smallpox Deaths Even After Outbreak Start
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=571&ncid=751&e=2&u=/nm/20021216/hl_nm/smallpox_deaths_dc
New Zealand To Import Smallpox Vaccine
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_728396.html
Bush's Health Chief Declines Vaccination!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30079
100,000 Gulf War Vets Terribly Sick- Many blame the vaccinations they took
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14772
2 Large Boston Hospitals Refuse Smallpox Shots: No inoculations for staff; officials underline danger
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/352/nation/2_large_hospitals_refuse_smallpox_shots%2B.shtml
to conclude.....is more than juz taking a shot....shld do more research on it..b4 u having the dose.... -
actually we shud stockpile the vaccines first then do R&D in our own time, that way we dun get caught if it really happens.Originally posted by duotiga83:Reports of Side Effects Will Weaken Smallpox Vaccine Demand
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20021216/4703421s.htm
Shots Said To Cut Smallpox Deaths Even After Outbreak Start
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=571&ncid=751&e=2&u=/nm/20021216/hl_nm/smallpox_deaths_dc
New Zealand To Import Smallpox Vaccine
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_728396.html
Bush's Health Chief Declines Vaccination!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30079
100,000 Gulf War Vets Terribly Sick- Many blame the vaccinations they took
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14772
2 Large Boston Hospitals Refuse Smallpox Shots: No inoculations for staff; officials underline danger
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/352/nation/2_large_hospitals_refuse_smallpox_shots%2B.shtml
to conclude.....is more than juz taking a shot....shld do more research on it..b4 u having the dose.... -
update on smallpox news....
Health Workers Resist Smallpox Vaccinations
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021220-39478814.htm -
Correct mi if I am wrong...Originally posted by paulho:actually we shud stockpile the vaccines first then do R&D in our own time, that way we dun get caught if it really happens.
If kana the smallpox, vaccine also cannot help or still can help?
i tot vaccine is to prevent the contract of smallpox and not curing it?
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news update...
Bush Gets Smallpox Inoculation
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73659,00.html
Only 31% Of Americans To Firmly Resist Smallpox Vaccination
http://www2.foxnews.com/polls/poll_results/bg_results_youdecide.jpg__basic_259.htm -
Did Dick chenney, the VP get the shot or not...Originally posted by duotiga83:news update...
Bush Gets Smallpox Inoculation
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73659,00.html
Only 31% Of Americans To Firmly Resist Smallpox Vaccination
http://www2.foxnews.com/polls/poll_results/bg_results_youdecide.jpg__basic_259.htm
if got allergy, then P and VP mati how? -
Why are we panicking about smallpox vaccination?
Did you check with your parents whether you got your smallpox shots when you were a baby, or when you were in Primary School? -
because it is 1 bio agent that is very easy to make and deliver. So easy that even the mamak store owner can make.Originally posted by Atobe:Why are we panicking about smallpox vaccination?
Did you check with your parents whether you got your smallpox shots when you were a baby, or when you were in Primary School?
There is a cure but we dun have stocks of it becuase everyone stopped producing it years ago.
So what happens if kanna? ... Die.