Join in Prayer with me for the Israelis and Muslims
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For centuries, both Israelis and the Muslim tribes were in conflict without end. God has even intervened on both sides sometimes helping the Israelis but other times the Muslim to triumph in those wars. Conclusion : No side is supreme so those who practise love, compassion, righteousness, will finally triumph.
Let the people of Israel and Palestines come to know this plain fact. It is of no use fighting any more without taking care of their fundamentals of religion. Only when their religion takes over by making changes to recgonise the rights and love for men will both sides find acceptance of the other and eventual God's approval from heaven and peace. Human peace will not last. Heavenly peace based on recognition of such love, rights and faith in God will lead to final peace.
Let this message be sent to both sides the peace makers for their love, right and faith in God is the kingdom of god.
I pray for all Israelis and Muslim to subscribe to such heavenly peace so that they will attain their wish finally which they could not do for past centuries.
Amen.
Robert Yeh Kok Hua
(From Singapore - see www.managefranchise.blogspot.com) -
Shouldn't this be in a christian forum instead of a political forum.
It is not the muslim tribes. It is the arab tribes.
Jeez...don't mix religion with politics especially when you appear to know nothing about it. I have a problem with people proselytizing their own religious beliefs through some apparent self superiority moral stance.
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Its a family quarrel lah.
Arabs and Isrealis have Abraham as their father.
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Arabs - Ishmael - Hagar's
Jews - Isaac - Sarai's
That is technically speaking.
Half brothers fighting.
That is a reason why men should just stick to one wife ....too many problems later on.
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Double post.
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Originally posted by fymk:
Arabs - Ishmael - Hagar's
Jews - Isaac - Sarai's
That is technically speaking.
Half brothers fighting.
That is a reason why men should just stick to one wife ....too many problems later on.
Muslim man are not suppose to "test drive" before buying mah...so god give them 4 chances to pick the right one. -
Israel should end occupation of Palestinian territory now.
Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967, more than 40 years.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Israel should end occupation of Palestinian territory now.
Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967, more than 40 years.
There was never a palestine before Israel. It was always part of someone's territory from the biblical time til now.
1949 - the arabs were given a chance to set up a state of Palestine . They refused so it got divided up.
If there is someone to be blamed , it is the arabs to be blamed - they screwed their own. The Jews just took back what they deemed rightfully theirs historically and in a biblical sense.
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Originally posted by TCH05:
Muslim man are not suppose to "test drive" before buying mah...so god give them 4 chances to pick the right one.If you don't know the religion , don't make yourself look stupid.
I am no expert in it but I know well enough to know it is not for the reason of test driving. It has some historical value.
If I am not wrong: if a muslim man has 2 wives , he has to treat them both EQUALLY. If he has 4, he has to treat 4 of them EQUALLY. Meaning : if one wife gets one night with him, the other should get one night with him. If one wife gets a rolex , the other should get the same rolex .
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Originally posted by fymk:
If you don't know the religion , don't make yourself look stupid.
I am no expert in it but I know well enough to know it is not for the reason of test driving. It has some historical value.
If I am not wrong: if a muslim man has 2 wives , he has to treat them both EQUALLY. If he has 4, he has to treat 4 of them EQUALLY. Meaning : if one wife gets one night with him, the other should get one night with him. If one wife gets a rolex , the other should get the same rolex .
I am just sharing with you my personal and real life experience as a MAN with sexual needs.
Are you a muslim?
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Used to have 2 democratic secular states in mid east, lebanon and Israel, now one is down so left lone israel...
The jihad mania is spreading from mid east to world wide like fire, be afraid
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Very biased and one sided interpretation of the conflict.
I have to counter this type of propaganda.
See:
The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html
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The jihad mania is spreading from mid east to world wide like fire, be afraid
I am more worried about USA hegemonic ambitions than so called jihad threat.
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so you would like to see stoning and limb amputations practised worldwide?
Between the 2 evils I will take a lesser one USA if you claim that she is the devil
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If JI managed to bomb our airport and killed hundreds of SG and foreign civilians, Poh Ah Pok will change his tune about his version of jihad legacy
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Jihadi groups only have a handful of troops, their resources are limited.
They are in the minority.
USA is the one bombing, invading, killing, occupying, overthrowing governments.
They have the military power, they have the influence.
They are the real threat.
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Poh ah pak you have been whitewashed by the far left worldwide, you have no idea the billions of dollars of oil wealth channelled to take over western interests like banks and media, once they have finished with them, we are next...
Jihad assaults took many forms besides military, there are economic jihad, media jihad and also taking over university middle eastern depts whitewashing everything from dhimmitude to ethnic cleansing...if a rich sheik wants to donate hundreds of millions of dollars to your school, will you not change the curriculum?
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Look at the Jokes here......
WE can't even agree on WHO'S the problem and could hardly even solve our own problems....... and YET is here try to SOLVE the problem of the Arabs & Jews
Please lah..... if PAP you all also cannot handle..... best to leave Middle East and 'Religion' out of it....
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I don't know, you worry about the Jihad threat, I worry about USA hegemony.
The solution seems obvious.
Set them against each other.
Observe the Fire on the Opposite Shore
Delay entering the field of battle until all the other players have become exhausted fighting amongst themselves. Then go in full strength and pick up the pieces.
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I will repeat Abraham lincoln warning here with a twist:
"In front of me lies the jihadist threat, and at my back lies a greater one which is zionism"
So both seems hazardous to civilised world, but it's impossible to take them out all together at once, it's even not possible to take them one at a time given so many of the elites in politics and business are in bedfellows with either or both of them
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well, Catknight, I don't agree with you, but I respect your opinion.
I don't see the Jihad threat as a grave danger, it is probably exaggerated for political reasons.
I see USA aggression and their policy of global hegemony as the danger.
In the days of the Soviet Union, USA was less aggressive as there was still the USSR to counter it.
Now USSR is gone, USA and their NATO clique is getting arrogant and attacks countries left and right to impose their will on them.
I see this as a danger.
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Over 112 Palestinians Killed in Five-Day Israeli Attack, Mohammed Omer Reports from Gaza
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/3/report_from_gaza
Stephen Kinzer on US-Iranian Relations, the 1953 CIA Coup in Iran and the Roots of Middle East Terror
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/3/stephen_kinzer_on_the_us_iranian
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Originally posted by TCH05:
I am just sharing with you my personal and real life experience as a MAN with sexual needs.
Are you a muslim?
Actually you said -> Muslim man are not suppose to "test drive" before buying mah...so god give them 4 chances to pick the right one.
fymk is right. It is not about buying. The Prophet had many wives and amazingly the first wife Khadijah was 40 when she married the 25 years old Muhammed. IF we try to apply the test drive idea, the whole thing is preposterous.
To add on to fymk's point, men are obliged to provide for their family, in addition to treating each of the wives fairly. Technically speaking, the wife needs not spend a single cent on the family and children, the husband will provide for them.
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Infidels understand why the Israelis need to return to their ancestral homeland. If divided and scattered all over the countries, their numbers will fall and will one day cease to exist.
Somehow non-arab Muslims take sides with the Arabs, whose intention is to wipe Israel off the map.
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Fymk,
This is a call for prayer for peace. The historical conflict between the Israelis and the Arabs has been deep-rooted in hatred for each other. Today, such hatred is no longer as relevant. It is futile to try to settle their problems politically now after many years of UN and international efforts have failed.
Yet God whether he is a God of Israelis or the Arabs is advocating love, compassion and faith of god. In fact Ibraham or Abraham was the same apostle in both religion. In other words both were originally half-brothers.
There is no reason both cannot practise the common beliefs existing in both religions Judaism and Islam.
Let there be common understanding of what their gods wanted them to achieve in this living world. If both sides can see they share the same common godly beliefs from the beginning there should be no reason they are fighting or should be fighting again and again.
Their original causes of conflicts were all historical or water under the bridge. There has to be statesmenship to promote the old godly beliefs to both sides and to me only when they could share common heritage could they eventually find lasting peace.