Where is Lee Hsien Loong?
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Whatever the Garment need to do, they will dig $$$ from the people whom they are serving.
You didn't vote them becoz they give you $$$ right? Of coz that would be bribery.
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Wait a minute...wasn't he in parliament which was in session this week? He just didn't seem to make any statements on the issue...
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Originally posted by simnatic:
Wait a minute...wasn't he in parliament which was in session this week? He just didn't seem to make any statements on the issue...
What statement you want him to issue?I have an incompetent relative for a Minister, after more than a week of search in this little red dot called Singapore, we have yet to find Mas Kastari.
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
What statement you want him to issue?I have an incompetent relative for a Minister, after more than a week of search in this little red dot called Singapore, we have yet to find Mas Kastari.
Well I mean at the very least, as the Prime Minister, he should at least, as the others have said, address the nation on this issue. He shouldn't just keep quiet and disappear.
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isnt spore mainstream media's loyalty to the ruling party same as that of cctv and xin hua news agency in china ?
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parliament looks very empty these few weeks. and the prime minister's absence should be conspicuous, but the media is covering up for him as well.
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There seemed to be no talk about terrorist in parliament.
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What terrorist... All just hoo haa over a tv show Prison Break... Again, there is no terrorist people... We are supposed to be ignorant and pay taxes and all that bullshit
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Originally posted by simnatic:
Well I mean at the very least, as the Prime Minister, he should at least, as the others have said, address the nation on this issue. He shouldn't just keep quiet and disappear.
The head of state, who is supposed to be the president, also didn't say anything mah.
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Originally posted by Quesce:
From my pov, he could be abstaining from making public appearances because of the risks to his life. I don't know why people are saying things like this:
"the prime minister, as head of government, should really respond when something big like this happens. and in the event that he's not able to, he should account for where he is. after all he's being paid millions for this job."
The Prime Minister isn't God - how the heck can he, within days, be able to account for where he [mas selamat] is? Or, if you meant he should account for his position as PM, just remember: he was voted in by Singaporeans.
Sure, this incident has brought feelings of shame upon many of us, however you should consider this point: at best, his appearance will only help boost the nation's morale. Is this really worth the threat to his life when such a terrorist is out on the loose? I think it'd be much worse if an attempt was made on his life, not to mention if it were to be successful. Anything is possible. It's not like he's denying responsibility for this.
His appearance will cause a threat to his life? I don't think so. They are not asking for a public appearance (that is, at orchard road, etc to make a speech), but for him to appear in parliament or public television instead.
And if a single unarmed, limping JI leader escaping cause such a serious threat to the PM, then what about the President? The PM is the head of gov but the President is head of state (oh, I forgot, maybe our President is also hiding together with PM since we also don't see him often except on NDP).
I don't see George Brush go into hiding and I think there are much more terrorists wanting him dead.
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Just remembered that during the CNY, China kenna heavy snowstorms, the Chinese PM really on the ball came out to talk to the people stuck at the train stations to encourage them. I really salute the Chinese PM!!
People will know as PM he is not going to pull up his sleeves to do the job but just to be there and encourage everyone makes a heck of a difference...
LHL has the mentality of an immatured kid...balless and kiasi..scared Mat Yoyo shaft him with a truck bomb ah..
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Originally posted by Quesce:
^Are you so certain that no such threat exists?
Nevertheless, what good will a public appearance do? Why the push for something that really is quite irrelevant?
Also, you mention the possible risk to the President if this were to be true. I think there's a risk here for everyone and find it quite impossible that you would think otherwise. Sure, he's limping, single, and unarmed - do we know this for sure? I know I wouldn't want to be having a cup of coffee anywhere near this guy.
As for your last comment...
So? Would you want George Bush for your President?
I sure wouldn't.
So all of us should go into hiding too, isn't it?
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Quesce, who do we really blame for letting this terrorist out of his little cage? Does the PM not have faith in our "national security guards" to protect his well-being? Who can we really blame when a terrorist escape? Lets blame ourselves then for voting for incompetent people and sitting on it and not doing anything.
When a crisis arises, the 1st thing to do is reassurance from him. But no, he choose to hide his face from all of us. How enchanting this tale of "oh I fear for my life" is. Really, that story is working. That just made me despise him more, thanks for the reminder.
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There will always be a terrorist threat regardless of the JI leader escape incidence happening or not. So even if he is finally capture, does this mean there will be absolutely no terrorist threat in Singapore?
So our dear PM should go into hiding forever.
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Oh, hes not really hiding. He's just evading this uncomfortable situation. Its like a pin on his arse, hes just finding a new cushion.
Aiya, just discuss here... Super lazy PM
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Quesce, you are the one who started the topic (quoted below) to suggest that he hasn't made an appearance as there may be a threat to his life, isn't it?
"he could be abstaining from making public appearances because of the risks to his life. "
"Is this really worth the threat to his life when such a terrorist is out on the loose? I think it'd be much worse if an attempt was made on his life, not to mention if it were to be successful."
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Originally posted by Quesce:
The Prime Minister isn't God - how the heck can he, within days, be able to account for where he [mas selamat] is? Or, if you meant he should account for his position as PM, just remember: he was voted in by Singaporeans.
i'm definitely referring to where he himself the prime minister is. i know he's not god and he can't know where mas selamat is. i'm not setting a deadline too, like you must find within 100 hours (which btw is past). there can be mistakes and i can accept.what i cannot accept is not being accountable to mistakes. now, i'm sure one terrorist on the loose is a marginal or negligible addition to his risk.
fellow forumers are right. doesn't mean terrorist is on the loose, the US president or chinese president go into hiding. if they don't have confidence in the country with all the protection they get, how will the public have confidence? moreover these are high profile countries, people want to kill them just because they head these governments. singapore is, realistically speaking, not.
the salary part is just an additional point. it's the basic goodwill and faith that by paying you so much, you should be doing things and letting people know what you're doing. having a public servant go into hiding, totally without any notice, is not being accountable.
a public appearance, as 33225520 says, does not have to be at some hawker centre (that's wayang la). from his office will be good enough. at least let us know, what you're doing, what you feel, what you can promise.
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i dont understand why you guys wanna say 'why the PM didnt come out and have a speech for singaporeans' . you guys already said he is the PM , he will know what to do and have his limits .
33225520 > his life .. ? yes , he cares alot for his life and so are we . and i think since he is already the PM , and if he dies , the public will vote or he had already apointed another PM inadvanced . even if he die , it doesnt even matters . are you interested in him ? why do you want to know what he is wearing , doing , feelings ?
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while our army and the gurkhas is searching for mas selamat, shun bian get them to look out for our PM...
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Originally posted by Quesce:
Again, many of you are placing so much emphasis on the unimportant, thrashing the example of our PM "hiding". His not appearing to us is a hypothetical explanation which I believe to be as plausible as any suggestions others may have. Singapore may not be a US or a China, but it is nevertheless an ally of the cause against terrorism; His not appearing does not automatically denote that he is attempting to evade responsibility; his salary has also no direct link to whether or not he should make an appearance...the list could go on. The main point to grasp, however, is that all of this is completely irrelevant.
At any rate, many of you seem to have a low opinion of the PM - therefore, why does it matter whether he makes an appearance or not? Or, to put it simply, even if he were to make an appearance, I see little in its purpose. Mas Selamat is still out there, PM appearance or no.
Once again, we should be focusing on staying vigilant and not on speculating or harboring ill will against him just because he hasn't yet appeared.first of all, let me clarify that i have nothing against the PM. in fact i've been supportive of his work and policies over the past 4 years. with Mr Lee Kuan Yew we built up a stable society, with Mr Lee Hsien Loong this society goes into maturity with openness and dynamism. this i dare say can't be achieved by any of the opposition of today and for that i salute them.
like suharto, Mr Lee Kuan Yew said he made contributions to Indonesia far more than anyone else could have, but he made mistakes too. that's history. we're talking current now. my main focus has been accountability. on WKS, on LHL, it's the same issue.
doesn't mean cos he's been doing good work for 20 years he should be let off once or twice for not being accountable. politics is about people's life, and allowing any lapse would be absolutely disastrous.
i support this government, i proclaim now.
but i want to identify a flaw with it: you're doing a good job, i accept and appreciate. but your system does not ensure that if you screw you're responsible. now you've screwed and you're not responsible.
this i want to see change in.
my second point is, i accept that even if the PM comes out many people will thrash him anyway. but at least i want to know his take, his commitment to fighting terrorism and most importantly, accounting for the many unexplained things, such as embargoed and ever changing information, as i've mentioned on topic's beginning.
i'm grateful to courteous discussion even when our views differ.