Your point being the unqualified causes complacency ? Or are you saying that the escape was a result of pure incompetence ?
Originally posted by kramnave:Your point being the unqualified causes complacency ? Or are you saying that the escape was a result of pure incompetence ?
I think he mean elitism doesn't equal to competency.
Kramnave,
Whether MM Lee has described the MS's escape as a sign of complacency in his government or incompetence, it is enough acknowledgement there lies a major problem today in our system of governing the country.
The earlier such complacency or incompetence is acknowledged and tackled the better it is for every Singaporean.
The prime cause of complacency or incompetence in our system as I see it is self-deception about one's talents based on elitism or connection.
Professionalism is just as important a criterion as education. If we want to have talented ministers or top people paid superscale salaries to run our police, (who lately have become so pathetic that it has been shirking responsibilities with constant excuses like non-seizable offence to avoid actions against assaults and similar crimes) we ought to have totally dedicated professionals who would pass the highest standards adopted in their respective jobs.
I look forward to the day when there will be no more excuses in tackling crimes or facing the penalty for such serious complacency or incompetence in our high security prisons.
Originally posted by robertteh:Kramnave,
Whether MM Lee has described the MS's escape as a sign of complacency in his government or incompetence, it is enough acknowledgement there lies a major problem today in our system of governing the country.
The earlier such complacency or incompetence is acknowledged and tackled the better it is for every Singaporean.
The prime cause of complacency or incompetence in our system as I see it is self-deception about one's talents based on elitism or connection.
Professionalism is just as important a criterion as education. If we want to have talented ministers or top people paid superscale salaries to run our police, (who lately have become so pathetic that it has been shirking responsibilities with constant excuses like non-seizable offence to avoid actions against assaults and similar crimes) we ought to have totally dedicated professionals who would pass the highest standards adopted in their respective jobs.
I look forward to the day when there will be no more excuses in tackling crimes or facing the penalty for such serious complacency or incompetence in our high security prisons.
Hi Will4,
If a terrorist of calibre such as MS is to escape from prison, do you think it will be accidental?
If it is an accidental and unpremeditated escape, do you think he could have got away so neatly leaving so many unanswered question like whether he has escaped throught the ventilation or some other opening at the toilet from which he was said to have escaped.
Obviously from all the evidences so far, his escape has been miraculous given that fact that he is a terrorist of some calibre or intelligence who has escaped custody before.
So based on such evidences available todate MM Lee obviously was trying to control damage by saying nice things about how difficult it is for him to do harm as long as he is in Singapore.
For all we know, he may not want to escape out of Singapore. His mission is to drive a plane to crash on our icon like the Changi Airport. So he probably has inside help from his own cell mates or prison officers befriended by or sympathetic to him to have allowed him to escape so cleanly against all odds.
If he is indeed such a terrorist of high intelligence described as wily by MM Lee and his mission is to launch an attack on Singapore he would be staying put in his hide out and buy his time and very soon launch an attack against one of our icon which will fit his mission nicely. Why run away from Singapore when his target is Singapore,
Originally posted by robertteh:Hi Will4,
If a terrorist of calibre such as MS is to escape from prison, do you think it will be accidental?
If it is an accidental and unpremeditated escape, do you think he could have got away so neatly leaving so many unanswered question like whether he has escaped throught the ventilation or some other opening at the toilet from which he was said to have escaped.
Obviously from all the evidences so far, his escape has been miraculous given that fact that he is a terrorist of some calibre or intelligence who has escaped custody before.
So based on such evidences available todate MM Lee obviously was trying to control damage by saying nice things about how difficult it is for him to do harm as long as he is in Singapore.
For all we know, he may not want to escape out of Singapore. His mission is to drive a plane to crash on our icon like the Changi Airport. So he probably has inside help from his own cell mates or prison officers befriended by or sympathetic to him to have allowed him to escape so cleanly against all odds.
If he is indeed such a terrorist of high intelligence described as wily by MM Lee and his mission is to launch an attack on Singapore he would be staying put in his hide out and buy his time and very soon launch an attack against one of our icon which will fit his mission nicely. Why run away from Singapore when his target is Singapore,
all are trying to point fingers here and there liao
all want to protect their ass now
it's not that i am wicked, but i really hope something bad happened to s'pore, then those fucking elites would wake up their fucking ideas... in actual fact, they are useless and expensive to maintain, just like china chickens, cheat money from s'poreans
Hi Will4,
If they being the terrorists want to hit us, they could work from several strategies. One is to recruit and establish their own network here within Singapore. When the time is right they will act. Can anyone really say that there is totally no JI recruitments going on currently within Singapore to follow through their plan. Can the government totally eradicate such discreet and low-profile recruitments.
JI may be supported financially by Al Qaeda and its plan is to attack Singapore when the time is right.
It may not be at all easy now for Al Qaeda to attack from outside as there is a higher risk to bring in those gears and explosives from outside. Working from within may be more appropriate. With internet anything today is possible. It is a matter of patience.
With the calibre of MSK being shown by his ability to breakout from a tight Detention Centre run by the Internal Security Department - which is supposedly guarded by Gurkhas - {see Francis Seow writing of his experience in this Whitley Detention Centre in "To catch a Tartar''} - we should not doubt his ability to make a dramatic impact while still in Singapore.
Does he need to breakout of Singapore, and plan a hit from outside ?
If he cannot escape the tight cordon thrown around this Little Red Dot - and with every agency intensely and constantly looking out for him - he can simply make the ultimate sacrifice - according to his personal religious beliefs - by hijacking a Petroleum Tanker Truck and blow himself up by driving into some high value target in Singapore.
MM LKY said that no one is infallible, which contradict his belief that he has always been infallible, and with the attitude being made into a hallmark of his Political Choices.
Is he now admitting that he has been wrong - which has led to this current state of complacency ?
The attitude of invicibility and infallibility was his creation to reinforce the aura of supermacy of himself, his Political Selections, and his Political Party - and that no one in Singapore is more able then himself and those whom he has annointed.
Is he admitting that he is fallible afterall ?
Perhaps MM LKY should apologise for the errors in his judgment of those whom he had incarcerated in the past, and wasting the lives of those whom he had wrongly accused and never dared to bring them to trial even as he claimed that he has the evidence.
Singaporeans deserves a better reason for the present situation then what MM LKY is prepared to reveal.
Originally posted by 333225520:I think he mean elitism doesn't equal to competency.
is a person born with silver elite spoon competent by default?
this is my answer.
Pride and Arrogance.
Who is complacent?
Rich elites and blah blah blah...you know who...
Originally posted by Reddressman.:is a person born with silver elite spoon competent by default?
this is my answer.
They are expected to be.
after this I'm sure the checkpoints at Causeway, airports and ferry terminal will be beefed up a lot. Can say bye bye to friendly DVD 9s and cigarettes liao... sigh
Don't need scrutiny here, wks is related to lky.