Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:selective interpretation again dude ?
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SDP protest and Tibet protest is different.
SDP is peaceful protest.
Tibet is violent.
I have mentioned this quite a few times.
you know i'm talking about your contradictions between supporting foreign based dissidents in criticizing the Singapore goverment, and opposing foreign based criticisms on the chinese goverment ....
would you still be quoting gopalan nair ? ....
The world should let China settle its own problem. Why interfere others problem? Why don't you see US put pressure on our gov for a more "freedom" in our political issues???? Because of interests/money. Why only put pressure on those developing countries? Because those countries have a lot of resources can take advantage of thats why the US are particularly interested in. Why China? so obvious trade and political issues. Why Taiwan, US also have to interfere? Because US has a lot of investment there as well. USA are about getting its won interest in the name of peace, human rights, global village bullshit, WAR, they are the one who are making the weapons of mass destructions and selling them to other countries and using them against those countries which are against them. Look at the stock market because of US bad market due to their war thingy around the world have to suffer. Why put ourselves around USA???? Free Tibet? WHat is free? Free like the USA? Crimes rates is one of the highest in the world. They can't even manage their own country well and they are now trying to manage the world with own brand of justice and peace! Wake up!
Hi Fatum
So in your opinion, what should the china police do when some of them riot and destroyed the facilities?
Imagine if one day lets say Bedok has about 100 people start doing the samething, what should the police do in order to be considered as democratic and humane and moral.
Look at China now, even with the RED army, the country crime rates is rising, part of it due to the corruption of the gov but the way i see. If China doesnt have the harsh laws, there will be more chaos in China now. And if one day New Yoke citizen decided that they want independence so will the US gov give it to them peacefully? Dream on!!
If every state also wants independence what will the world become? Do not follow what the media shows, it is not easy to run a country and not easy to please everyone but somehow the gov have to do something to keep the peace. Tibet is growing in the recent years so I dont see whats the big WO-HA about. Just that someone is trying to play political games using innocent lifes of Tibet.
Why Taiwan, US also have to interfere?
USA's main motivation in supporting status quo is to prevent unification of China, so that China cannot have freedom of action. It's 2.5 million PLA troops will have to be pinned down to prevent Taiwan from making any rash move.
If China unified, the PLA troops will be free to intervene against USA fucking around with other countries, like USA invasion of Iraq for example.
But now, if China intervenes, Taiwan will exploit the situation.
agreed with you. All I can say if you wanna talk about democratic and humane and moral then you shouldn't be running a country!
Originally posted by Dan008:Look at China now, even with the RED army, the country crime rates is rising, part of it due to the corruption of the gov but the way i see. If China doesnt have the harsh laws, there will be more chaos in China now. And if one day New Yoke citizen decided that they want independence so will the US gov give it to them peacefully? Dream on!!
If every state also wants independence what will the world become? Do not follow what the media shows, it is not easy to run a country and not easy to please everyone but somehow the gov have to do something to keep the peace. Tibet is growing in the recent years so I dont see whats the big WO-HA about. Just that someone is trying to play political games using innocent lifes of Tibet.
New York citizen want independence from what?
If they don't like the way that they are governed, they can always vote in a candidate that has similar views as them.
Tibet is another Burma (Myanmar), the issues are not dissimilar.
If that Dalai Lama of Tibet is so great why does he fled Tibet leaving his people behind? And now talk so much through the newpapers.
Originally posted by Dan008:If that Dalai Lama of Tibet is so great why does he fled Tibet leaving his people behind? And now talk so much through the newpapers.
Live the day to fight another battle another day.
You mean tactically, the SAF never teach you to retreat, reorg and reattack again?
Means if enemy comes fully prepared, you charge headon till all your soldiers are decimated?
If you see some big gang charging at you with parang, you stand and take them head on?
New York citizen want independence from what?
If they don't like the way that they are governed, they can always vote in a candidate that has similar views as them.
Tibet is another Burma (Myanmar), the issues are not dissimilar.
I am just giving another example.
We must always be on the alert against hostile and vicious propaganda and disinformation.
We must not be provoked or agitated to make rash moves.
Don't be naive or gulliable, read widely, get as many views and interpretations of events as possible.
Forget about the local propaganda media, it's all state propaganda.
Live the day to fight another battle another day.
You mean tactically, the SAF never teach you to retreat, reorg and reattack again?
Means if enemy comes fully prepared, you charge headon till all your soldiers are decimated?
If you see some big gang charging at you with parang, you stand and take them head on?
So did they ever teach you not to fight when you know you can't possibly win?
Are we really free here? Think about it. When everybody got a job and living good who really cares about who is in charge.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Live the day to fight another battle another day.
You mean tactically, the SAF never teach you to retreat, reorg and reattack again?
Means if enemy comes fully prepared, you charge headon till all your soldiers are decimated?
If you see some big gang charging at you with parang, you stand and take them head on?
never~~ becuz i'm a fire fighter!! we were taught to do everything we can to save someone
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:never~~ becuz i'm a fire fighter!! we were taught to do everything we can to save someone
good one ![]()
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:never~~ becuz i'm a fire fighter!! we were taught to do everything we can to save someone
Fighting "fire" is different from fighting a regime.
Fire can be overcome because it lacks intellect, so even somebody with deprived intellect can defeat it. ![]()
If you choose to draw parallel between the two, so be it. ![]()
Moreover I am sure Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela, Ghandhi and Sun Yat Sen lives are worth much more than yours.
It's better they preserve their lives to fight another day, rather than be daft and charge against an onslaught of guns.
eat shit dali lama hasn't been in tibet for 50 years
Ya how many fire calls have you attended? I bet only the most 1 or twice a month? The rest were some rubbish fire or RTAs or some spillage. The one who are always on the move for injured ones are the ambulances which they got about 8 - 10 calls per day (12hrs shift) per call is about 1hr. So do you really know how to do your CPR correctly? And I bet you have not yet tired one on a real victim before.
never~~ becuz i'm a fire fighter!! we were taught to do everything we can to save someone
Thats beside the point, but I must say the fire fighter training is very tough. So do respect the SCDF fire fighters and Paramedics but not the officers as they do nothing but carry balls! OCs are the worst of all.
Maybe Singapore's fight for indepedence was wrong too, since it was a part of the British colony.
It has always been a British Colony since it's founding.
If Tibet was wrong in fighting for independence, then Singapore was a major error. ![]()
Maybe Singapore's fight for indepedence was wrong too, since it was a part of the British colony.
It has always been a British Colony since it's founding.
Singapore didn't really fight for her indepedence, in fact was "kick" out by Malaysia thats why our Mr Lee cried.
On 29 January 1819, Sir Thomas Stamford Raffles landed on the main island. Spotting its potential as a strategic geographical trading post in Southeast Asia, Raffles signed a treaty with Sultan Hussein Shah on behalf of the British East India Company to develop Singapore as a British trading post and settlement, marking the start of the island's modern era. Raffles's deputy, William Farquhar, oversaw a period of growth and ethnic migration, which was largely spurred by a no-restriction immigration policy. The British India office governed the island from 1858, but Singapore was made a British crown colony in 1867, answerable directly to the Crown. By 1869, 100,000 lived on the island. [16]
The early onset of town planning in colonial Singapore came largely through a "divide and rule" framework where the different ethnic groups were settled in different parts of the South of the island. The Singapore River was largely a commercial area that was dominated by traders and bankers of various ethnic groups with mostly Chinese and Indian coolies working to load and unload goods from barge boats known locally as "bumboats". The Malays, consisting of the local "Orang Lauts" who worked mostly as fishermen and sea-farers, and Arab traders and scholars were mostly found in the South-east part of the river mouth, where Kampong Glam stands today. The European settlers, who were few then, settled around Fort Canning Hill and further upstream from the Singapore River. Like the Europeans, the early Indian migrants also settled more inland of the Singapore River, where Little India stands today. Very little is known about the rural private settlements in those times (known as kampongs), other than the major move by the post-independent Singapore government to re-settle these residents in the late 1960s.
"... That someone was our Senior Minister, then Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, announcing that Singapore had been evicted from Malaysia, less than two years after joining the Federation.
Mr Lee's eyes brimmed with unshed tears, not because he and his people had been thrown off a comfortable ride or that, like the British in Hongkong, we had come to the pre-ordained end of the road....."
http://ourstory.asia1.com.sg/merger/headline/lkycry.html
Fighting "fire" is different from fighting a regime.
Fire can be overcome because it lacks intellect, so even somebody with deprived intellect can defeat it. ![]()
If you choose to draw parallel between the two, so be it. ![]()
Moreover I am sure Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela, Ghandhi and Sun Yat Sen lives are worth much more than yours.
It's better they preserve their lives to fight another day, rather than be daft and charge against an onslaught of guns.
I am sorry to say Ghandhi did not fled India for 50 years like that Lama, he famously led his nation in the disobedience of the British salt tax imposed in India with the 400 kilometre (248 miles) Dandi Salt March in 1930, and in an open call for the British to Quit India in 1942.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi