how he managed not to be punished is much more unbelievable than the escape act of mas selamat itself.
such a big boo boo under his care, and not even a single sentence of reprimand from the prime minister. i would have slapped him if i were the pm.
Buy him a sword? Suggest he commits seppuku?
ai chai tor kai that is why he is not penalised. moreover he is related to the lees and if lee sack him it will put them to shame.
Im not sure he should indeed get punished, and so on. Besides, he has come up to apologize and taken a more active charge, I think it is something more than his duties or what is expected of him already. He is a minister after all.
The ones at fault, I think, are the guards, and maybe the detention center head/ chief.
I dont think a minister should be at fault for this.
To me, all this WKS talk, is a little bit different. Something else is hidden under the surface. I think people just use this Mas Salamat case as a tool to throw something at him, because they dont like the 'PAP', or the 'powerful ministers' in general. So it seem like a little superfluous, and a little forced.
Meat Pao.
If he commit seppeku, who is to take the blame every day as Mas Selemat is missing? Or when he comes back with his buddies.
Meat Pao,
I understand what you said. But look at the whole governing system as a whole. How many times big problems or mistakes by the top leaders occurred due to their kind of pushy autocratic system did the leaders really own up to their big mistake and take responsibility. From Hotel New World collapse to another Nicol Highway collapse, from NKF to Shin Corp squandering of people's monies for their own glory, did they ever admit mistake.
If people are inflamed now by the Mas Selamat escape, they have their inner reason to feel inflamed. So we should not easily excuse the top of such mistakes as they have happened due to too much complacency and cover-up in the past with use of political legalistic power to ignore accountability to the people.
If it is the private sector the chief who was paid millions would be thrown out by shareholders in the extraordinary general meeting if the board of directors try to give such excuses.
Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Buy him a sword? Suggest he commits seppuku?
No, his replacement will be sufficient. ![]()
Originally posted by Meat Pao:Im not sure he should indeed get punished, and so on. Besides, he has come up to apologize and taken a more active charge, I think it is something more than his duties or what is expected of him already. He is a minister after all.
The ones at fault, I think, are the guards, and maybe the detention center head/ chief.
I dont think a minister should be at fault for this.
To me, all this WKS talk, is a little bit different. Something else is hidden under the surface. I think people just use this Mas Salamat case as a tool to throw something at him, because they dont like the 'PAP', or the 'powerful ministers' in general. So it seem like a little superfluous, and a little forced.
Meat Pao.
If you look at the bigger picture, you should be questioning, why was a terrorist head put in a sub-standard detention centre instead of a well-guarded prison which give him the opportunity to escape? As the head of MHA, can WKS say he is not aware of this?
Along with WKS's millions dollar salary are the additional responsibilities (if not, why are we paying him so much for?). Yet, when something like this happen, the blame goes only to the guard. What's the logic behind this?
If WKS can just say sorry, let's move on and pretend nothing has happened, then how is his multi-million paycheck justified? ![]()
2 weeks have passed, and the cuaseway are jammed everyday causing inconvienient to those having to commute between Singapore and Malaysia frequently. So what ingenious plan do WKS have?
The intelligence agencies are too busy monitoring dissent what. Who gives a **** about Malaysia, a developing country. Seal the causeway lah.
It was a honest mistake ![]()
Originally posted by Uncle Ver SG:The intelligence agencies are too busy monitoring dissent what. Who gives a **** about Malaysia, a developing country. Seal the causeway lah.
Im prety sure they do alot of trade with us. Go to NTUC and look at bread. 90 percent of our bread comes from msia.
Originally posted by pearlie27:He could have slapped him in private. GCT might tell us later.
GCT... SM Goh? Now is PM Lee leh
Anyway... WKS works for the government, and govt represents the people. Thus, he cannot be at fault..
The civil service works for the government/people, and thus, if anyone is to blame, it would be the service and not the ministers.
it is a stupid mistake and still dare to say "WORLD CLASS" hahahaha so funny that my toes are laughing. Someone better write to protest and change a head for MHA. While his care the prostitutes problem grew and now a JI leader escaped. And nowadays police attitude are getting worst no basic manners. Cilvl Defence officers are getting more ridiculers, they make their Junior Officers work like dogs so that they can get credit and promote I know this is nothing new in gov sector. Not being even able to have a proper meal when on duty and not even allowed to buy food from outside for those fireman or Paramedics. Because the citizen simply dont regard them as human because they just complain when they saw fireman or paramedics buying food. What they do not know is that there are no food canteen like the police in firestation even there are they are closed at night. But when the police happily buying food slowly walking no one complain or all....what is this? Ever wonder why does it took so long for police to arrvie at scene when someone call the police and ambulances or fire engines will be there withing 10mins depends on location. And there are only about 37 ambulances in singapore compared to thousands of police and hundreds of police cars. Petition.
you need to up more of their salary so they won;t be so complacent next time and do even more world class duties...
Throw him into the centre and make him escape...
his name is already a life sentence some more what punishment you want?
Originally posted by Meat Pao:Im not sure he should indeed get punished, and so on. Besides, he has come up to apologize and taken a more active charge, I think it is something more than his duties or what is expected of him already. He is a minister after all.
The ones at fault, I think, are the guards, and maybe the detention center head/ chief.
I dont think a minister should be at fault for this.
To me, all this WKS talk, is a little bit different. Something else is hidden under the surface. I think people just use this Mas Salamat case as a tool to throw something at him, because they dont like the 'PAP', or the 'powerful ministers' in general. So it seem like a little superfluous, and a little forced.
Meat Pao.
YOu a running dog of PAP is no different from other PAP running dogs, talk the same. U a no brainer. Lackey, so how is WKS a little different?
Yesterday I watched TV and Wks spoke . his english one piece one piece, why he can become minister. Put him in charge of economics, the whole country will turn up side down. Waste of money to employ him, million dollar some more, i think he is not worth $5k per month![]()
Originally posted by t_a_s:Yesterday I watched TV and Wks spoke . his english one piece one piece, why he can become minister. Put him in charge of economics, the whole country will turn up side down. Waste of money to employ him, million dollar some more, i think he is not worth $5k per month
Look at who back him up lah. His wife is the niece of Lky's wife, so now you see connection works.
But LKY dont admit it. He sued the FT and awarded damages, seem that there is no nepotism. If what FT wrote is true facts, why it apologized?
Originally posted by t_a_s:But LKY dont admit it. He sued the FT and awarded damages, seem that there is no nepotism. If what FT wrote is true facts, why it apologized?
Please upgrade yourself by reading more of reality and facts. If you read and watch media controlled by PAP you will never see and know the truth.
If you read and watch media controlled by PAP you will never see and know the truth.
This is very true.
You will only get self-serving propaganda.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:If you read and watch media controlled by PAP you will never see and know the truth.
This is very true.
You will only get self-serving propaganda.
and there are people who read, watch and listen to PAP controlled media will turn against people who speak the truth, facts and reality about PAP. these people have become frogs in the well.