Olympics troubles are about resisting big bullies
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Olympics troubles are about resisting big bullies
In the animal kingdom, the big bully and the physically strongest end up the alpha male. The compassionate, the intellectual, the poor in spirit, the meek, they who mourn, they that hunger and thirst after justice, the merciful, the clean of heart, the peacemakers, and they that suffer persecution for justice' sake. The bullies step on and kick them while they are down.
That humans can progress to this stage (compared to animals) is simply because, humans do not, as a whole allow this type of bully behavior to flourish. They gang up to resist the despots. They gang up to resist the tyrants in defense of the few that dare to criticize the hooligans in power.
Despots intolerant of free press that can criticize them effectively will support other tyrannical despots. -
Public money grabbing despots will be happy to support other public money grabbing despots in power....
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The despots encourage fear in Singaporeans, just like some other leaders...
Polygamist Sect Encouraged Fear
The Associated Press - 2 hours ago
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Conmen, thieves, rapist... hate transparency as well...
US, Germany Urge Chinese Transparency in Tibet
Voice of America - 2 hours ago
By David Gollust US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier appealed Friday for greater Chinese transparency in Tibet.
Dalai Lama Talks Compassion, Not Tibet The Associated Press
A message for Beijing Boston Globe
Seattle Post Intelligencer - San Jose Mercury News - US-China Today - Washington Post
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Did the Tibetans choose this despot to rule over them???!!!
Chinese president says Tibet an issue of 'national unification'
International Herald Tribune - 2 hours ago
AP SANYA, China: Chinese President Hu Jintao took a hard line Saturday on recent unrest in Tibet, saying problems in the region are a purely internal affair that directly threatens Chinese sovereignty.
China's Hu: Tibet Is an Internal Matter The Associated Press
China denounces European parliament over Tibet Reuters
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==========================What an idiot!!!!!!! A despot in these modern times... !!!!
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what puzzle me are those in this forum who sing the same tune with China and than turn around and shoot at PAP ?
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what puzzle me are those in this forum who sing the same tune with China and than turn around and shoot at PAP ?
Why not?
China is China.
PAP is PAP.
PAP is not China.
China is not PAP.
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last heard, CSJ is planning to disrupt the YOG. obviously he draw alot of inspiration from the tibetens.
he is now gathering names of heartlanders to push thru' his agenda. planned protest currently include teban gardens and circuit road, sweet spots of hard hit folks.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Why not?
China is China.
PAP is PAP.
PAP is not China.
China is not PAP.
why not ?Because if the TS is to reproach PAP for its repressed methodology to opposition party than the same logic would have to apply to authority who does the same to its own citizen. So it is the repressed authority to the civilian that we are debating rather than the players. without prejudice of nation or ethnicity.
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Tibetan burning and destroying and SDP peaceful protest are two different things.
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2 different things?
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Those people trying to snuff out the Olympic torch.... to send a message to the despots that they are dishonorable people deserving to be spat at...
no violence... just a message for dishonorable despots and their ass sniffing supporters...
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Tibetan burning and destroying and SDP peaceful protest are two different things.
if we implied Exception than i can assured in every aspect of killing and protest there will be exception. Depend on who has the greater power to the exception and who have access to the media.Infact peacful protest from Tibet has been going on for a long time. It is only until the monk took desperate measure and we watch news or came to read it recently.
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would Youth Olympics have a torch relay also? can't wait to see those anti-LKY Aussies trying to snuff our torch.
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Originally posted by sebosebo:
would Youth Olympics have a torch relay also? can't wait to see those anti-LKY Aussies trying to snuff our torch.
get ready to see aussies buring the pic of lky -
hope CSJ can really beef up his squadrons, we need to hv a serious protest and see the police whack up the protestors.
then hooray...everyone wud try to snuff our olympic torch, hope some of em wud even get to take a piss on it.
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Don't mix politics with sports.
Criticise Lee Kuan Yew by all means, but don't harm the sporting cause.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Don't mix politics with sports.
Criticise Lee Kuan Yew by all means, but don't harm the sporting cause.
I agree with you on this.
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i wonder what will happen if the olympic torch gets snuffed out in sg.. the whole world is gonna level singapore with their nukes or something..
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You sure? Pls read IOC principle.
The Games have always brought people together in peace to respect universal moral principles. The upcoming Games will feature athletes from all over the world and help promote the Olympic spirit
You are saying China host the Games solely for this principle? and not to show case the world its no longer a backward country in Asia but a powerful nation with a face saving ego state. (And China is not a backward country no more)
So you are saying the world cannot express its disagreement over the universal moral principle behind the game ? And not to take it as a loosing face saving situation.
So what principle are you purport for SDP for freedom of expression? and are you going to say this is exception for China ?
If freedom of expression are going to be practice than it is naturally to expect outcome for both end.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
if we implied Exception than i can assured in every aspect of killing and protest there will be exception. Depend on who has the greater power to the exception and who have access to the media.Infact peacful protest from Tibet has been going on for a long time. It is only until the monk took desperate measure and we watch news or came to read it recently.
You have a one set mind and with one ideology you judges the world. No wonder to you it is only your view and another things else are exceptions. You are unable to look at each case on its own merit, and you justify violence as desperate measure needed to achieve political goals, hmm...that's going back to the dark ages, aren't you?
There is no question that China needs to improve its measures of dealing with protests. Tiananmen incident is a lesson for them. America has its fair share of lesson in the Kent State University shooting, so do the Thais in Bangkok, the Koreans in Kwangju. But dealing with violent tibetans all out to burn and kill non tibetans is a totally different matter.
You disregards totally China's claim of sovereignty over tibet, you are ignoring the feelings of billions of other Chinese in and outside of China. You can post here until the cows come home, there will be nothing sensible come out of such one sided argument.
Learn from Joan Chen, the Chinese actress and now an american citizen, " The US boycott of the 1980 Games in Moscow and the Soviet boycott of the 1984 Olympics in LA accomplished nothing....but remember what a little ping pong game did for Sino US relationships in the 1970s?"
You want to talk about Olympics principle, here is what she says "lets celebrate the OIympics for what they are meant to be - a bridge for friendship, not a playground for politics." that I'd say is the universal moral principle behind the game.
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one sided idealogy in this forum? You mean so long as it does not agreed to the majority it is considered 1 sided view? Did you do a quantitative count in this forum who is having single side idealogy?
No body is questioning the sovereignty of Tibet. But China Action. Read the main stream media no governments are chanllenging chinese gov claim. No sanction, No threats, but words of tone down.
Perceived unfairness from being judge by the western media without questioning why are there global response? All I see are superifical response; conspiracy theory; Tit for Tat atitude.
Here is the article for you to refer.
Therefore, those who had supported the Nazis needed to be informed on how correct their choice was with an emphasis on the strength of the party and the leadership. Those who opposed the Nazi Party had to be convinced that it was pointless continuing with their opposition.
But where are our moral compass? Be glad there is a global voice that speak for those whom U can;t hear. U don't know when you need it.
So Look at it this way if there are no alternative view you got no forum. You got a speaker corner that only speak what you want to listen.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
You have a one set mind and with one ideology you judges the world. No wonder to you it is only your view and another things else are exceptions. You are unable to look at each case on its own merit, and you justify violence as desperate measure needed to achieve political goals, hmm...that's going back to the dark ages, aren't you?
There is no question that China needs to improve its measures of dealing with protests. Tiananmen incident is a lesson for them. America has its fair share of lesson in the Kent State University shooting, so do the Thais in Bangkok, the Koreans in Kwangju. But dealing with violent tibetans all out to burn and kill non tibetans is a totally different matter.
You disregards totally China's claim of sovereignty over tibet, you are ignoring the feelings of billions of other Chinese in and outside of China. You can post here until the cows come home, there will be nothing sensible come out of such one sided argument.
Learn from Joan Chen, the Chinese actress and now an american citizen, " The US boycott of the 1980 Games in Moscow and the Soviet boycott of the 1984 Olympics in LA accomplished nothing....but remember what a little ping pong game did for Sino US relationships in the 1970s?"
You want to talk about Olympics principle, here is what she says "lets celebrate the OIympics for what they are meant to be - a bridge for friendship, not a playground for politics." that I'd say is the universal moral principle behind the game.
Originally posted by sgdiehard:
" The US boycott of the 1980 Games in Moscow and the Soviet boycott of the 1984 Olympics in LA accomplished nothing....but remember what a little ping pong game did for Sino US relationships in the 1970s?"
accomplished nothing???!!!!
It ended the Soviet despots, with their Gulags, rule.
The Moscow games boycott highlighted the fact that despots rule the Soviet Union and were persecuting opposition and dissidents.
The LA boycott by the Soviets showed the world that the Soviet despots were incorrigibles.
If there is a boycott of Beijing 2008, that would be best, to remind the world that there are despots ruling China... the weak must gang up to resist despots... or humans would be no better than animals. Well, it turns out that there are many people (including the despots in Singapore) willing to sniff the China despots asses... -
AndrewPKYap,
suka suka can anyhow cite reasons for the boycotts of olympics for your own convenience?
The US led boycott of 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow was to protest against the December 1979 invasion of afghanistan by the USSR.
Led by the soviet, about 14 warsaw pact countries boycotted 1984 olympics in LA, citing chauvinistic sentiments and anti-Soviet hysteria being whipped up in the US, but it was actually a revenge for the boycott of the Moscow Games.
Soviet never left Afghanistan until 10 years later. Actually the US led coalition then went into Afganistan again in 2001.
So did the boycotts achieve anything? nothing.
You need to read up your history. Don't just be too quick and willing to sniff the western media's asses... they are also despots you know.
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ur r stupid! only 10percent of de tebetans want to gain independent! most of them want to live harmoniously with other races in China! Today Tibetan population has increased, besides the 2.4 millions living in Tibet, there are another 2.6 millions ethnic Tibetans now in all part of China living peacefully among the Han