Originally posted by ChiBet:My question is why the Indonesian Chinese choose to stay in Indonesia when they know the majority of Indonesians are againts them?
Why do they still choose to stay in Indonesia when they know
1 - obviously the government is anti-chinese as Indonesian Chinese are not allowed to use chinese name, practice chinese customs/beliefs
2 - local Indonesians are a bunch of savages whose hobbies/national past-times are raping people, head hunting, stealing/robbing others, raping people, assaulting others with knives, parang, pieces of metal pipes, setting buildings/cars/flags/people on fire and oh did I mention raping people
3 - local indonesians hate chinese indonesians.
It is comparable to jewish people purposely going to live in NAZI germany
It was an isolated case where a few hundred ethnic Chinese were targeted for violence in some areas.You have to visit Indonesia today to see if the chinese there are living in fear of another attack.Like i said it was an isolated but a well planned attack involving the army.As Chinese we are all angry but it wasnt an act of ethnic cleansing just a dirty government doing it for political reasons.We dont just leave our homes,businesses and country just because some people of our race were attacked.
Originally posted by Short Ninja:It was an isolated case where a few hundred ethnic Chinese were targeted for violence in some areas.You have to visit Indonesia today to see if the chinese there are living in fear of another attack.Like i said it was an isolated but a well planned attack involving the army.As Chinese we are all angry but it wasnt an act of ethnic cleansing just a dirty government doing it for political reasons.We dont just leave our homes,businesses and country just because some people of our race were attacked.
It is a planned attack by element of the army to topple General Wiranto, the CDF but Wiranto is outside of Jakarta n he managed to
lead a group of marines from the navy to stabilize the situation.
Indonesia was at the verge of civil war at that time. I was told that tanks were aiming at each other below the monument of Jakarta.
The marines were the only one helping the people, guarding housing complexes, etc. The whole country police, fire station, army (except the special forces that was the instigator and provocator) were on paid holidays.
Nobody mentioned about the commander of kopassus, also the son in law.
The Chinese or anyone in Indonesia is safe as long as they are not the target of political manipulations. After the May 13 riots, the theme was religion, which was why some Christains (Chinese or Indonesian) were beheaded and Churches were burnt in some parts of Indonesia.
So the thing is not about Chinese, it's all dirty politics. It depends on what they want to target and sacrifice.
By the way the son-in-law is now a high ranking General in the Jordanian armed forces.....wierd isnt it?
Originally posted by Short Ninja:By the way the son-in-law is now a high ranking General in the Jordanian armed forces.....wierd isnt it?
He kena posted to Indonesian armed forces command n staff college n shortly kena discharged by the court for his role in the riot. He went to Jordan n stay there.
He is trying to vy for the presidency.
If he becomes the next President then I can only shake my head and say "KNN Indonesia will forever never change one".That bugger got many powerful and dirty kakilang but he can dream on.
This is ex-General Prabowo Subianto, son-in-law of Indonesia's former President Suharto.
Prabowa was the bastard who planned the 1998 riot and rapes of Chinese girls. If he ever become President, I am very sure he will plan for the rape of Singapore girls. This guy is EVIL.
He is on the blacklist of US Immigration. I hope the US would put an International Warrant of Arrest against him for Crimes against Humanity. And I hope to see Singapore arrest him and hand him to the US. but I doubt if Singapore has the moral courage to do so.
Prabowa was the bastard who planned the 1998 riot and rapes of Chinese girls.
What about Bush?
He was the one who attacked Iraq.
Omg, the world is really sucky.... it needs a world leader.
Alas, I think i have to be the ONE. Okay, i will try to solve the world's problem. BIt by bit by paper and pen and lots of thinking, when i have the free time.
Originally posted by january:Omg, the world is really sucky.... it needs a world leader.
Alas, I think i have to be the ONE. Okay, i will try to solve the world's problem. BIt by bit by paper and pen and lots of thinking, when i have the free time.
LOL, how can you ever have the free time if you are forever in January ?
Will your solutions be outdated when the events evolved faster then you can even wake up to realise that you have to get out of your twilight zone ?
Come to think of it, the way our country is ruled now is the same as Indonesia under Suharto's dictatorship. The latter use violence and brute force while the former uses oppressive laws and unreasonable.regulations. The end result is the same, centralization of national wealth to own family.
That's not surprising, both are best friends.
Originally posted by Caitaokue:Come to think of it, the way our country is ruled now is the same as Indonesia under Suharto's dictatorship. The latter use violence and brute force while the former uses oppressive laws and unreasonable.regulations. The end result is the same, centralization of national wealth to own family.
That's not surprising, both are best friends.
spot on, very good, but watch your back, you might be brought in for some coffee with 'them'
Originally posted by snowfoxx:spot on, very good, but watch your back, you might be brought in for some coffee with 'them' you know dr chee soon juan?
Originally posted by snowfoxx:spot on, very good, but watch your back, you might be brought in for some coffee with 'them'
Oh, do they serve latte?
If we are always living in fear, when will we Singaporean going to standup for ourselves. Why do we need to succumb to fear that other people create to control our lives?
The so-called rule enforcement if they merely execute what they are ordered to, without thinking, then they are no difference with run-dog. They are like the traitors of Chinese during the japanese occupation, after the jap left, some were stoned to death and their descendents continue to live lives of disgrace forever unable to lift up their heads because of what their forefathers did. Things will always come to an end, no matter how absolute the power is now.
Life is short, if the memories of your life is something you are ashamed of, then you wasted your life and made your descendents ashame of theirs. If there is something you did in your life out of honour, then that honour shall live on after you are long gone. Whether the future generations spit on your tomb or take a minute to salute your tomb, is all your decision now.
Chee Soon Juan is someone not only Singaporean should be proud of, but a celebration of true democracy and fighter of human rights in this era. UN ought to give him an award. He was a high ranking officer in law enforcement and he knew things were not right, and he stood up against the oppression and live by his principle.
How many Singaporean here, truly support him in action. Most of us only support him morally at the back of our mind. Why? Because we are scared to being called to drink coffee?
How much better are we for speaking up and for not speaking up?
You be the judge and please do not bring out these kind of statement anymore. Standup as one Singaporean.