Singapore, One Nation Under ???
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Originally posted by t_a_s:
My friend that day talked to me abt LKY.He said if he dies, spore economy will decline, I told him off, the people who worry lee dies is the rich men, poor ppl why worry abt economy. But frankly, who ever in charge the economy is still the same bcos we are a small country, easy to manage, it is only that under LKY, he want to develop spore as fast as posibble, to earn credit so ppl will say LKY is good, is great under his leadership, spore developed from 3rd to 1st world. He wants face only. He want to control, he thought he only good, actually Goh Keng Swee, Toh Chin Chye can also become PM. Ong Teng cheong also can. Many talents ppl around, why no talent.
Actually Singapore's success is not 100% attributable to him. Singapore's success is due to all the folks who run the ministries, stat boards and her citizens. -
Originally posted by maurizio13:
So your definition of critical analysis is name callings when you can't win arguments?Haven't seen you do much rational thought on your part, mostly name callings, which shows dire consequence due to your inability in thought processes.
You are quite the hypocritical moron, much like the ruling regime. Preach one thing and practise something totally opposite.
Sure, by all means, go ahead. You did admit you are sick. Your judgement would be impaired most certainly thus logical reasons becomes nonsensical ones.
Go ahead and cast your vote as is your right. And hopefully others are not as impaired in their mind as you are.
So, when there is no longer logic left in your arguments, you need to resort to name calling? If discerning people are branded as running dogs, then shall i label your kind as 'plague infested rats'?Highly suspect maurizio 13 is not even schooled, a result of crippling stupidity by lack of education, reading his several posts.
Cause he speaks as if he have nothing in between his ears, nothing can be further from the truth.
Nah, you are not my responsibility. Let others do the job on you. If you don't have anything else substantially intellectual to comment on this thread, then i shall bid you adieu.Arguments for the sake of ego is not my cup of tea. If it is yours, may you wallow to your fill in it.
well, some people consider themselves more equal than others. They are quick to point fingers but are practising double standards like the ruling party. They are just as condescending, arrogant like the masters they support.
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Originally posted by t_a_s:
My friend that day talked to me abt LKY.He said if he dies, spore economy will decline, I told him off, the people who worry lee dies is the rich men, poor ppl why worry abt economy. But frankly, who ever in charge the economy is still the same bcos we are a small country, easy to manage, it is only that under LKY, he want to develop spore as fast as posibble, to earn credit so ppl will say LKY is good, is great under his leadership, spore developed from 3rd to 1st world. He wants face only. He want to control, he thought he only good, actually Goh Keng Swee, Toh Chin Chye can also become PM. Ong Teng cheong also can. Many talents ppl around, why no talent.
LKY did admit that he is given a small country Singapore to manage, if he is taking care of big country he may not do a good job. At least he realises this.
Singapore needs changes to take place, Singapore needs new blood, we have enough of PAP.
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
LKY did admit that he is given a small country Singapore to manage, if he is taking care of big country he may not do a good job. At least he realises this.
Singapore needs changes to take place, Singapore needs new blood, we have enough of PAP.
every cycle will come to an end.
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
LKY did admit that he is given a small country Singapore to manage, if he is taking care of big country he may not do a good job. At least he realises this.
Singapore needs changes to take place, Singapore needs new blood, we have enough of PAP.
I will not respond to those who refuse to listen to anything except their warped and senseless logic.
qiqq9, I only ask you one thing. You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million here.
You don't have to answer my question nor will i prejudice your intellect. I only hope for an honest and sincere answer from you, if such a quality exists in you other than blind irrational rage.
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Troll, Point_blank, is practising double standard. I shall not waste time to entertain this troll. I will only answer questions to people who are genuinely here for healthy discussion without harbouring motives of fault finding, slamming and with any other evil or negative behaviour/words.
Come on, troll, you are exposed, admit you come here to find fault. I suppose you want to hear me telling you I support PAP all the way without questioning their policies, behaviour, integrity and so on.
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Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:
every cycle will come to an end.
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
Troll, Point_blank, is here countering attack on people who speak their mind negatively against PAP.So i am not speaking my mind too and denied such freedom by the likes of you? Looking for others to support your illogical and deluded fantasies?
Why avoid my question?
You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
i think you need to nett off the FTs/FWs here to enhance the validity of your question. (not that it is invalid)
i don't think they really care.....
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Troll, Point_blank, just read your own post to me below, you are slapping your own face, practising double standard. Pay attention to what i have highlighted in red. Admit it, if you are sent by PAP to interrogate or find fault here.
Lackey, you are damn bloody hypocritical. Point fingers at people and said that people do name calling, you do the same, so you are trying to tell us you are more equal than anyone of us.
Lackey troll, you keep spamming in this thread to find fault with forumers here. Not all people here are stupid, they know your motive. So what else is in your agenda or plan to spam here?
Lackey, you just created this nick and account just to spam here to find fault, look at it, forumers - he just started his posting in sgforums in May 2008 just to get at us who talk negatively about PAP.
Admit it, troll, admit you are sent by PAP. ha ha ha.
30 posts since May '08
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Originally posted by qlqq9:show
I will not respond to those who refuse to listen to anything except their warped and senseless logic.
qiqq9, I only ask you one thing. You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million here.
You don't have to answer my question nor will i prejudice your intellect. I only hope for an honest and sincere answer from you, if such a quality exists in you other than blind irrational rage.
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there is a reason why qlqq9 is in my ignoring and dont waste my time list.
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Originally posted by Chinkara:
there is a reason why qlqq9 is in my ignoring and dont waste my time list.
Nobody bothers about you, you are like Point_blank who just registered here in May 2008 to spam and find fault here. You are possibly Poin_blank hiding in another new nick. -
Point_blank, you can go on and on to find fault and attempting to interrogate people who expose the PAP but you will not get any positive results you want.
Go on if you are sent by PAP. Practising double standard is typical of PAP's lackeys or running dogs.
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
Point_blank, you can go on and on to find fault and attempting to interrogate people who expose the PAP but you will not get any positive results you want.
Go on if you are sent by PAP. Practising double standard is typical of PAP's lackeys or running dogs.
Poor qiqq 9, filibustering and name calling will get you nowhere in attempts to hide your despicable failure to back up your statements.I only made one tiny weeny request question:- You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
I am still waiting for an answer.
Or you just don't dare admit reality?
Edit: As instead of just graciously back off, you insisted on name calling and making more kinds of wild allegations, thus, now i would hope you just answer that rather simple question so that all may be satisfied that what you claimed are true.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Poor qiqq 9, filibustering and name calling will get you nowhere in attempts to hide your despicable failure to back up your statements.I only made one tiny weeny request question:- You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
I am still waiting for an answer.
Or you just don't dare admit reality?
Edit: As instead of just graciously back off, you insisted on name calling and making more kinds of wild allegations, thus, now i would hope you just answer that rather simple question so that all may be satisfied that what you claimed are true.
Hey, lackey troll, Point_blank, as your nick suggests you are blank, ha ha ha. Blank so can't be objective, sensible. You are the one who do name calling and you come here to point fingers at us.
I want to tell you again, you will never never ever succeed in shutting the mouths of people who expose PAP and don't agree with you. Troll, what is next in your agenda, is it smelling the fart of PAP?
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Poor qiqq 9, filibustering and name calling will get you nowhere in attempts to hide your despicable failure to back up your statements.I only made one tiny weeny request question:- You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
I am still waiting for an answer.
Or you just don't dare admit reality?
Edit: As instead of just graciously back off, you insisted on name calling and making more kinds of wild allegations, thus, now i would hope you just answer that rather simple question so that all may be satisfied that what you claimed are true.
Troll, Point_blank, just read your own post to me below, you are slapping your own face, practising double standard. Pay attention to what i have highlighted in red. Admit it, if you are sent by PAP to interrogate or find fault here.
Lackey, you are damn bloody hypocritical. Point fingers at people and said that people do name calling, you do the same, so you are trying to tell us you are more equal than anyone of us.
Lackey troll, you keep spamming in this thread to find fault with forumers here. Not all people here are stupid, they know your motive. So what else is in your agenda or plan to spam here?
Lackey, you just created this nick and account just to spam here to find fault, look at it, forumers - he just started his posting in sgforums in May 2008 just to get at us who talk negatively about PAP.
Admit it, troll, admit you are sent by PAP. ha ha ha.
30 posts since May '08
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Originally posted by qlqq9:show show
I will not respond to those who refuse to listen to anything except their warped and senseless logic.
qiqq9, I only ask you one thing. You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million here.
You don't have to answer my question nor will i prejudice your intellect. I only hope for an honest and sincere answer from you, if such a quality exists in you other than blind irrational rage.
If you are so damn frustrated that i am not satisfying you,you jolly well go to PAP's website and be happy and satisfied there. I am not in the interest of providing any info to satisfy you in any way for you are considered a troll.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Poor qiqq 9, filibustering and name calling will get you nowhere in attempts to hide your despicable failure to back up your statements.I only made one tiny weeny request question:- You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
I am still waiting for an answer.
Or you just don't dare admit reality?
Edit: As instead of just graciously back off, you insisted on name calling and making more kinds of wild allegations, thus, now i would hope you just answer that rather simple question so that all may be satisfied that what you claimed are true.
Name calling, you are doing it, so you point fingers at others, ha ha ha, so hypocritical. You damn pathetic to come here to pick up fight, must be your bloody stupid mentality that drives you to do so, troll.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Poor qiqq 9, filibustering and name calling will get you nowhere in attempts to hide your despicable failure to back up your statements.I only made one tiny weeny request question:- You claim 'Singapore needs new blood'. My question to you is - what blood? We are talking about the governance impact on 4.5million lives here.
I am still waiting for an answer.
Or you just don't dare admit reality?
Edit: As instead of just graciously back off, you insisted on name calling and making more kinds of wild allegations, thus, now i would hope you just answer that rather simple question so that all may be satisfied that what you claimed are true.
Troll, if you have nothing better to do, I suggest you go kiss the ass of PAP
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why bother posting here.. this forum is full of anti-pap ppl. i thought they would be able to properly argue their point of view given a proper analysis of the situation, but the posts in this thread have just been a low-class name calling of anyone who isnt't anti-pap. i really lost respect for for the anti-pap camp.. if you think otherwise, look at your posts again from a neutral point of view, who you think people will listen to?
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Originally posted by sexyfats:
why bother posting here.. this forum is full of anti-pap ppl. i thought they would be able to properly argue their point of view given a proper analysis of the situation, but the posts in this thread have just been a low-class name calling of anyone who isnt't anti-pap. i really lost respect for for the anti-pap camp.. if you think otherwise, look at your posts again from a neutral point of view, who you think people will listen to?
This rotten forum is literally owned by the anti-pap whiners, it is not really the sort of place for any serious discussion about politics. Just pop by once in awhile, take a dig at those wannabe and go off. That can be quite fun. -
found this link on another forum
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Originally posted by Chinkara:
This rotten forum is literally owned by the anti-pap whiners, it is not really the sort of place for any serious discussion about politics. Just pop by once in awhile, take a dig at those wannabe and go off. That can be quite fun.It would be fun. But the sad thing is, some would believe their views without critically rationalizing it and would follow their delusions blindly.
Generally, estimated 70% voted for the ruling party, but 30% didn't. These 30% are still our fellow Singaporeans, and it hurts to see them being manipulated by people with no substance and no credibility to lead. And these so called 'leaders' use lies, half truths and unsubtantiated allegations to twist others to their viewpoint.
I am only here to do my part as a citizen, not to praise or bury, but only to ask for rationality not only for myself but for others who wandered here as well.
Who said Singaporeans are a politically apathetic lot, if not for the 'gangsterism' irrational tactics employed by persons such as qiqq9?
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
Name calling, you are doing it, so you point fingers at others, ha ha ha, so hypocritical. You damn pathetic to come here to pick up fight, must be your bloody stupid mentality that drives you to do so, troll.
Thank you qiqq9. You have proven through your posts yet again the very kind of person whom has no substance except bluster, threats and insults citizens must never put in power.I am sure opposition political figures will not want to be associated with your kind.
Have a nice day.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
I wish i could say the same, but unfortunately i never did like a person who can wish death on another human being.Who is to take the blame ( or credit if it is successfully run ) if a democratic country with a free vote system becomes one party dominated?
Is there another Dr Goh Keng Swee or Rajaratnam amongst our young that had not been recruited by the ruling party yet?
If you found him, let me know and i will surely vote for him, no matter what party he joins, ruling or opposition.
I think to find another politician like Mr Goh Keng Swee or the late Rajaratnam is difficult cause most talent will likely stay in the private sector or migrate to other
countries.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
It would be fun. But the sad thing is, some would believe their views without critically rationalizing it and would follow their delusions blindly.
Generally, estimated 70% voted for the ruling party, but 30% didn't. These 30% are still our fellow Singaporeans, and it hurts to see them being manipulated by people with no substance and no credibility to lead. And these so called 'leaders' use lies, half truths and unsubtantiated allegations to twist others to their viewpoint.
I am only here to do my part as a citizen, not to praise or bury, but only to ask for rationality not only for myself but for others who wandered here as well.
Who said Singaporeans are a politically apathetic lot, if not for the 'gangsterism' irrational tactics employed by persons such as qiqq9?
such `holier than thou' attitude.
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