Open Letter to Political Opposition Parties
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Originally posted by webben:
Oh, and one other thing. Attack the argument, not the person. Do you have anything to say about what I SAID?
No, I'm not working at a school.
consider a career change then. you probably excel there.
and btw, you shouldn't really reply to me since it has nothing to do with the thread. you are just digging your own hole castigating others whereas you are partaking in the same. (albeit in more civilized language)
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lastly webben,
name calling, insult hurling are littered and splattered all over in this forum. i am probably behind the pecking order compared to the more illustrious ones here.
so, go on and wear your policeman/policewoman hat and start cleaning things up. it'll help in your post count.
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Originally posted by webben:
Oh, and one other thing. Attack the argument, not the person. Do you have anything to say about what I SAID?
No, I'm not working at a school.
it is common to come across people who loves to create nuisance out of nothing, or for the fact that the person is just bored or the wife rejects him of sex.I prefer to engage in discussion with people who are genuine, who are into the real stuff rather than trolls coming here with motive of destruction.
redDUST has been told off before by some forumers here.
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qiqq 9, for a person who offers nothing constructive - no new insights, no perspectives, to the thread you do seem to have a lot of hot repetitious irrational air to blow.
Do you seriously think others will consider your verbage?
Do you think yourself a hero, a defender of the opposition, with your mentality and such attitude?
But do go on, don't let me stop you.Do continue to make others with better senses realized what an empty vessal you are. Would be hilarious to watch a person descend into madness through blind hatred, if not he is only a fellow human.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
qiqq 9, for a person who offers nothing constructive - no new insights, no perspectives, to the thread you do seem to have a lot of hot repetitious irrational air to blow.
Do you seriously think others will consider your verbage?
Do you think yourself a hero, a defender of the opposition, with your mentality and such attitude?
But do go on, don't let me stop you.Do continue to make others with better senses realized what an empty vessal you are. Would be hilarious to watch a person descend into madness through blind hatred, if not he is only a fellow human.
Sheep have a tendency to congregate close to other members of a flock, they have a strong lead-follow tendency, and they become highly stressed when separated from their flock members. In terms of intelligent, they are be just below pigs and on par with cattle in IQ.
You will be surprise that among the flock of sheep, you can find scholar, qlqq9 and other university grads....
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Originally posted by Chinkara:
Sheep have a tendency to congregate close to other members of a flock, they have a strong lead-follow tendency, and they become highly stressed when separated from their flock members. In terms of intelligent, they are be just below pigs and on par with cattle in IQ.
You will be surprise that among the flock of sheep, you can find scholar, qlqq9 and other university grads....
It is sad to watch them being misled, comming from different walks of life with a few of them grads. I dont know if it is because of IQ. Singapore has a high literacy rate of 97% just on O levels alone annually, which is more than enough to figure the 3 'r's, before many of them move on to specialized education either in acamadia or technical instructions.
One don't need high IQ to understand basic needs such as food, shelter and jobs. Don't those on the opposition side ever just simply ask -
'Can the opposition offer me such or do a better job than the current administrators?
And what are the guarantees that they can perform?'
All these years since Independence, you may be shocked, but there was no word on such issues from the opposition.
All they want is to sit on that PM chair, and like qiqq9, for us to obey or be condemned, wouldn't it be worse off than present administration? And people follow these guys?
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Point_blank, as the nick suggests is blank, empty, he is full of emptiness, it is a shame that he in his stupidity and emptiness keeps challenging people. His challenge fails, he points fingers, put words into people's mouths, he accuse, he destroys.
I come to this thread not to contribute for I see no need to entertain this Point_blank with any constructive discussion. Since he makes untrue comments and typical of him to always find fault, I come here to see his reactions. Lackey Point_blank, go lick your PAP's ass.
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
Point_blank, as the nick suggests is blank, empty, he is full of emptiness, it is a shame that he in his stupidity and emptiness keeps challenging people. His challenge fails, he points fingers, put words into people's mouths, he accuse, he destroys.
I come to this thread not to contribute for I see no need to entertain this Point_blank with any constructive discussion. Since he makes untrue comments and typical of him to always find fault, I come here to see his reactions. Lackey Point_blank, go lick your PAP's ass.
Thank you for another contribution from you to my thread, Even though this latest contribution is again nothing constructive, it does proves what an empty vessal you truly are.I do think you are beginning to adore me, to have kept me entertained with your senseless rant to prove my views correct on the nature of the opposition forces! :-P
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Thank you for another contribution from you to my thread, Even though this latest contribution is again nothing constructive, it does proves what an empty vessal you truly are.I do think you are beginning to adore me, to have kept me entertained with your senseless rant to prove my views correct on the nature of the opposition forces! :-P
I think very soon you will understand why someone here is on my ignored and dont waste my time list...:D -
Originally posted by Point_blank:
Thank you for another contribution from you to my thread, Even though this latest contribution is again nothing constructive, it does proves what an empty vessal you truly are.I do think you are beginning to adore me, to have kept me entertained with your senseless rant to prove my views correct on the nature of the opposition forces! :-P
With your no IQ or low IQ, nobody will adore you. Don't need to make yourself feel good by saying people adore you. WE know where you are coming from blind lackey of PAP. YOu are without IQ and have problem understanding English, I mentioned clearly in my last post that I am not here in your thread contributing.
I suggest you go back to basic to learn A B C. ha ha haha.
You come to speakers' corner with a great mission to shut our mouths, so you wait long long for this will not materialse, ha ha ha. Now go to hell to prepare a place for your masters.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
'Can the opposition offer me such or do a better job than the current administrators?
That's not entirely the point of the opposition. It's pretty clear that the opposition here doesn't have an iota of a chance of ruling any time in the foreseeable future. But they don't have to be in a ruling position to add value to parliament.
The value of opposition comes from putting forward an alternative viewpoint, and challenging the ruling party to justify its position. Such challenge and debate can add huge value to the political scene.
Take the Greens party in Australia. They're never going to lead, and don't have the ability to administer the country anyway. Does that render the party pointless? No. Their reason for being is to bring up for debate issues pertaining to the environment and to prevent the government of the day from glossing over such issues.
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Originally posted by webben:
That's not entirely the point of the opposition. It's pretty clear that the opposition here doesn't have an iota of a chance of ruling any time in the foreseeable future. But they don't have to be in a ruling position to add value to parliament.
The value of opposition comes from putting forward an alternative viewpoint, and challenging the ruling party to justify its position. Such challenge and debate can add huge value to the political scene.
Take the Greens party in Australia. They're never going to lead, and don't have the ability to administer the country anyway. Does that render the party pointless? No. Their reason for being is to bring up for debate issues pertaining to the environment and to prevent the government of the day from glossing over such issues.
A good opposition is someone how can identify problems even before it happens, and if they do criticize, they also back it up with viable and sensible solutions -
Agreed. It also helps if they have a forum in which to offer those solutions, be it in parliament or the media.
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Originally posted by webben:
That's not entirely the point of the opposition. It's pretty clear that the opposition here doesn't have an iota of a chance of ruling any time in the foreseeable future. But they don't have to be in a ruling position to add value to parliament.
The value of opposition comes from putting forward an alternative viewpoint, and challenging the ruling party to justify its position. Such challenge and debate can add huge value to the political scene.
Take the Greens party in Australia. They're never going to lead, and don't have the ability to administer the country anyway. Does that render the party pointless? No. Their reason for being is to bring up for debate issues pertaining to the environment and to prevent the government of the day from glossing over such issues.
Thank you for your thoughtful post. I agree with your point that the opposition party don't have to be in a ruling position and the reason for (their ) being is to bring up issues for debate.
Which is why in Spore, opposition political parties are not banned. Since independence they had been allowed to garner votes within a level political field - whatever the rules, every party including the ruling one, must follow.
Theoratically, there should not be any dominance by one single party. The number of voters and political parties make it impossible, but then, in Singapore, the impossible became possible - not of any fraud or dishonesty on the part of the ruling party, but simply because our opposition parties failed to convince the People of their capabilities ( or the sore lack of it ), worse still, engage in smearing reputations of our Executive Officers and Offices of State.
These officers will definately have to respond, for the reputation of the People is at stake. The PM is the representative of the People. To impunge his reputation is to cast slurs onto the People and those who put him in power. To not challenge such allegations would mean such slurs or allegations are true.
Secondly, while it may be true to have opposition figures in parliament for check and balances, but from a voter's point of view -
a ) shouldn't the one he votes belong to a party that can best administer the nation?
b.) If not, would it be fair for him to be the one to put in an 'alternative' source, when such votes are secret and the mandate to rule is only known when the results are fully counted, fixed for 5 years term?
Thus, the fault for the present lacklustre in local politics lay in the moribund opposition parties, who after so many years, had yet to offer anything credible to solve the problems of the People, except to whine and blame others than themselves.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Dear Atobe,I sacrificed a part of my time to answer to your post, and yet all that i received from you is yet again a repetition of your points, with no new insights other than EXCUSES for the consistant failure of the opposition political parties.
Dear Point_blank,
Unfortunately, either you are unable to read what has been posted, or you do not know how to make relevant use of your precious time in providing accurate answers to the point.
Is this the best reason for you to give ''blank'' answers to the different points that you have raised - which ironically is true to your preferred choice in your nick ?
Excuses ?
How did you so expertly read the presentation of factual events as excuses ?
Is this not the typical dismissive cop out reason of the MIW when pushed into an embarrassing corner that they cannot extricate themselves from ?
Be that as you wish and disregard my posts as you want, for you are only one amongst many who may feel otherwise. Whine and cry all you want but WHEN will you and those you defend START working on solutions to solve the daily issues for the People?
Simple question and i hope for an un-convoluted answer.
Pathetically, you seem to take a preference in deluding yourself from reality, preferring to count the few that your short-sighted eyes can see, but refusing to see the bigger picture of real issues that are too overwhelming for your eyes to focus.
Is this another incredible ''blank_point'' that you are capable of making - when you cannot give any credible response ?
This seems to be the typically standard reply of your types when confronted with the impossible list of issues, and the best defensive argument your type can throw up in another dismissive ploy that everyone prefer to ''whine and cry'' instead of taking positive actions.
Despite your shallow display in courtesy, your replies have shown lack of sincerity to engage in sensible debate, when you indulge in empty rhetoric that resemble that is no better than senseless imitation of the MIW propaganda.
You must surely be the reason for the MIW Leadership complaining the lack of talent, as there do not seem to be any ability in independent or original thinking.
Even if you cannot offer a reasonable reply, at least do not lead yourself into a dead end, going into a 'Point that is blank''.
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Originally posted by Chinkara:
Atobe's target audience are sheep, not humans with common sense. So dont waste your time reading or replying his post.
Plus Atobe strategy to winning any arguement is always to mess up the discussion with extremely long-winded repetition essays, with the hope that no forumers will not bother to read and reply. :D
Should we consider you to be a human with any common sense - when you believe that humans can be sheep ?
Perhaps we should first begin by questioning your reading ability, as you do not seem to have the basic common sense to be able to make any sense of what you read - when others {whom you claim to be sheep} do not seem to have such problem with my post ?
My reply to Point_blank's postings have been deliberately cut up to address every issue that he had written, and is courtesy shown for his efforts made, and if you cannot handle such precise addressing of separate issues, what else can you be capable of handling ?
Are you not contradicting yourself with your generous opinion ?
If you are not discouraged with my supposedly long essary, how would you know they are repetitive ?
Before you give a bravado display of your expert critique, perhaps you should brush up on your high standard of English verbage and make yourself look less contradictory with such a silly statement:
''long winded essays'' are done with the hope that no forumers will not bother to read and reply''
Could this be the reason for Point_blank responding constantly and not according to your wrong interpretation, and for other forumers to join in this thread as evidence by the increasing number of hits - that even attracted your attention ?
At least try not to shoot yourself if you do not even know how to shoot the gun at others - it clearly shows yourself to be an amateur, if not an imitator.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Thank you for your thoughtful post. I agree with your point that the opposition party don't have to be in a ruling position and the reason for (their ) being is to bring up issues for debate.
It hurts my eyes to read such misleading statement that the opposition party don't have to be in a ruling position, and the reason for their being - {you mean existence} - is to bring up issues for debate.
Are you attempting to trick some innocent kid into perpetually dependent on a ONE-Party State ?
Which is why in Spore, opposition political parties are not banned. Since independence they had been allowed to garner votes within a level political field - whatever the rules, every party including the ruling one, must follow.
Level political field in Singapore since independence ?
Which year was there ever a level playing field after Singapore became independent ?
The only time when the political field was level was when Singapore was under the UK Colonial Government, and when Singapore was under the Federal Government of Malaysia.
Since Singapore became independent - after being kicked out of Malaysia - on 9 August 1965, LKY made sure that his MIW Party is the only party holding political power, having locked up all his most threatening colleagues - who walked out of his MIW Party to form the Barisan Sosialist in 1962, and bankrupted all who are left from 1965.
Theoratically, there should not be any dominance by one single party. The number of voters and political parties make it impossible, but then, in Singapore, the impossible became possible - not of any fraud or dishonesty on the part of the ruling party, but simply because our opposition parties failed to convince the People of their capabilities ( or the sore lack of it ), worse still, engage in smearing reputations of our Executive Officers and Offices of State.
Are you not being a fraud and dishonest with your statement, or are you simply in self-denial in making such statements in an open forum - inviting strong responses from other who know better ?
The political field was not level to start with, and anyone who dare join or support the Alternative Parties are subject to constant ridicule and harrassment from the various State Agencies - which have become tools of the Ruling Political Party to prevent the growth of any Alternative Party that can be stronger to threaten the MIW.
It has always been clear that the Alternative Parties have been deprived of equal avenues of publicity to reach out to Singaporeans, when the MIW use its Governmental positions to ensure that all prints and broadcast medias are not available to the Alternative Parties; while the same are made use of by the MIW to discredit the image of the Alternative Parties in the minds of Singaporeans.
It seems that more often than not, it is the MIW Team that start the politics in assassinating the character and reputation of those in the Alternative Parties whom they feel most threatened.
This was seen first in the 1960s, when Chia Thye Poh was accused to be a Communist and locked up for 32 years on the flimsiest accusation that he had advocated armed revolution. Yet his cry for an open trial for evidence to be produced went unheard, while he was regularly tempted to freedom in exchange for his confession.
The late Dr Lee Siew Choh was made to be a buffoon in the many clashes during the 1960s to 70s, when he was the most vocal voice in opposing Singapore's entry into Malaysia - and he was proven right in less then 2 years.
Chiam See Tong was ridiculed by LKY - in an Election Rally - for daring to enter politics with his poor O-Level results that allowed him only to get a Law Degree through long distance correspondence course.
J.B. Jeyaratnam was lampooned, insulted and derided by LKY to be a political charlatan - a dishonest, fraud - despite Jeyaratnam's solid reputation as a Singapore High Court Judge. Despite LKY's insults and personal vendetta - JBJ persevered against all the ''broken glass and nails'' that LKY showered in the political path that JBJ took. Unbelieveably, PM LHL conceded that JBJ is a loyal Singaporean - almost 30 years late.
CSJ was similarly maligned from the start, as he was the first tertiary educated person, working as a NUS Lecturer, who dared to decline an invitation to join the MIW Team. Almost the entire State controlled machinery was rolled out to flatten CSJ after his first Election debut - before he became a bigger threat. All who dared to support him were ear marked for persecution, and it depleted the number of educated supporters - especially those from the tertiary educational institutions - leaving CSJ short of research teams that undermined his confrontation with the Government.
You can always have your dishonest personal wet dreams of your imagined level playing field, and your imagined political nightmares of Opposition Personalities raping your sweet dreams, but be prepared for any robust wake-up sound when you take your wet dreams into public forum.
These officers will definately have to respond, for the reputation of the People is at stake. The PM is the representative of the People. To impunge his reputation is to cast slurs onto the People and those who put him in power. To not challenge such allegations would mean such slurs or allegations are true.
You should be clearer and more accurate in deciding whose reputation is at stake.
First, you claim that the Oppositon Members raped the reputation of the Public Officers - now you claim that the reputation of the People is at stake.
The logic in your reasoning seems convulted, and smack of dishonest effort in brainwashing your false information into young and unprepared minds.
Secondly, while it may be true to have opposition figures in parliament for check and balances, but from a voter's point of view -
a ) shouldn't the one he votes belong to a party that can best administer the nation?
Can you give any reason for your false position ?
How can the People have an honest selection, when the full potential of other Singaporean Talents are purposefully made unavailable except only for those that bend to the principles of the POWER of ONE ?
b.) If not, would it be fair for him to be the one to put in an 'alternative' source, when such votes are secret and the mandate to rule is only known when the results are fully counted, fixed for 5 years term?
Again, your words are as convulted as your thinking ?
How can there be a mandate, when the political field is not level ?
How can there be a mandate when the politics is continuously subjected to manipulation by the incumbent Ruling Political Party ?
; Thus, the fault for the present lacklustre in local politics lay in the moribund opposition parties, who after so many years, had yet to offer anything credible to solve the problems of the People, except to whine and blame others than themselves.
Is it not typically childish to blame others so easily ?
The reason for the moribund state of affairs in the Singapore Poltical Scene can be summed up by the actions of the Ruling Political Party, whose attitudes and actions against the other Political Parties are no better than those of Mugabe's style of politics in Zimbabwe.
Is there any reason for the Members of Parliament from the Ruling Political Party to enjoy the full facility of having a proper political office constructed in the void deck of an HDB block, while the Members of Parliament from the Alternative Parties are only allowed to have half-height panel partition in an open HDB void-deck as their office ?
Is there any reasons for the Government to with-hold any development budget for the constituencies that voted for the Alternative Parties, when the citizens in these Constituencies also pay their Taxes annually ?
Is there any reasons from the Government not to allow the Members of Parliament from the Alternative Political Parties to be part of the Singapore Community and lead the community in their Constituency during observance during National Day ?
Is it not a fact that the MIW Team has divided Singapore when hypocritically encouraging Singaporeans to be ONE People, One Country, One Nation ?
If you believe that these are all repetitive, yes - and it bears repeating to counter the constant drumming of the false propaganda that is repeatedly made by dishonest people who prefer to make points that are blank.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Dear Point_blank,
Unfortunately, either you are unable to read what has been posted, or you do not know how to make relevant use of your precious time in providing accurate answers to the point.
Is this the best reason for you to give ''blank'' answers to the different points that you have raised - which ironically is true to your preferred choice in your nick ?
Excuses ?
How did you so expertly read the presentation of factual events as excuses ?
Is this not the typical dismissive cop out reason of the MIW when pushed into an embarrassing corner that they cannot extricate themselves from ?
Pathetically, you seem to take a preference in deluding yourself from reality, preferring to count the few that your short-sighted eyes can see, but refusing to see the bigger picture of real issues that are too overwhelming for your eyes to focus.
Is this another incredible ''blank_point'' that you are capable of making - when you cannot give any credible response ?
This seems to be the typically standard reply of your types when confronted with the impossible list of issues, and the best defensive argument your type can throw up in another dismissive ploy that everyone prefer to ''whine and cry'' instead of taking positive actions.
Despite your shallow display in courtesy, your replies have shown lack of sincerity to engage in sensible debate, when you indulge in empty rhetoric that resemble that is no better than senseless imitation of the MIW propaganda.
You must surely be the reason for the MIW Leadership complaining the lack of talent, as there do not seem to be any ability in independent or original thinking.
Even if you cannot offer a reasonable reply, at least do not lead yourself into a dead end, going into a 'Point that is blank''.
Sigh...another senseless diatribe from you. It's ok to insult me, but i really don't wish that you insult the intelligence of others reading this post.I don't wish to engage your irrelevant points simply because it is a waste of time to have to prove you wrong but yet you adamantly insist you are right in your delusions. Thus i would let others read your trash and let them form their own opinions.
Once again, last time, I ask:- WHEN will you and those you defend START working on solutions to solve the daily issues for the People instead of giving more excuses?
Simple question and i hope for an un-convoluted answer.
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
Point_blank, as the nick suggests is blank, empty, he is full of emptiness, it is a shame that he in his stupidity and emptiness keeps challenging people. His challenge fails, he points fingers, put words into people's mouths, he accuse, he destroys.
I come to this thread not to contribute for I see no need to entertain this Point_blank with any constructive discussion. Since he makes untrue comments and typical of him to always find fault, I come here to see his reactions. Lackey Point_blank, go lick your PAP's ass.
All this in one sentence for all the mud you have slung.You're full of shit.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Sigh...another senseless diatribe from you. It's ok to insult me, but i really don't wish that you insult the intelligence of others reading this post.I don't wish to engage your irrelevant points simply because it is a waste of time to have to prove you wrong but yet you adamantly insist you are right in your delusions. Thus i would let others read your trash and let them form their own opinions.
Once again, last time, I ask:- WHEN will you and those you defend START working on solutions to solve the daily issues for the People instead of giving more excuses?
Simple question and i hope for an un-convoluted answer.
You're like the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.
Insult others and expect others to sit idly by.
Moreover, Atobe has given you a point to point rebuttal, unlike you, your points are blank.
What more do you want?Suggest you take time to peruse Atobe's reply and rebutt with an appropriate response. But judging from your limited mental abilities, I doubt you are able to do that, most likely you will succumb to insults and ridiculing of your opponents.
If it's too convoluted, then obviously you haven't got the intellect for it, better quit early to avoid looking like a fool.
Solution for daily issues? Opposition doesn't even have the helm, yet you ask the opposition to fantasize for a solution (It's akin to you fantasizing about how good P4P is). It's tantamount to asking a person who has never run a particular company to provide solutions to it's problems. There are intricacies in different companies, yet you expect the opposition who has never been to this company's admin office to provide solutions. Aren't you jumping the gun, putting the carriage ahead of the horse.
If you haven't been inside this company, don't know the departmental functions unique to this company, but you know this company is making a loss. Do you know where the trouble with this company lies? Do you know which department to tighten and which department to expand to bring in more profits? I tell you who to blame, the CEO in charge of running this company, for he is directly responsible for all the hiccups.
You should learn to fire live rounds instead of blanks.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
All this in one sentence for all the mud you have slung.You're full of shit.
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
You're like the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.
Insult others and expect others to sit idly by.
Moreover, Atobe has given you a point to point rebuttal, unlike you, your points are blank.
What more do you want?Suggest you take time to peruse Atobe's reply and rebutt with an appropriate response. But judging from your limited mental abilities, I doubt you are able to do that, most likely you will succumb to insults and ridiculing of your opponents.
If it's too convoluted, then obviously you haven't got the intellect for it, better quit early to avoid looking like a fool.
Solution for daily issues? Opposition doesn't even have the helm, yet you ask the opposition to fantasize for a solution (It's akin to you fantasizing about how good P4P is). It's tantamount to asking a person who has never run a particular company to provide solutions to it's problems. There are intricacies in different companies, yet you expect the opposition who has never been to this company's admin office to provide solutions. Aren't you jumping the gun, putting the carriage ahead of the horse.
If you haven't been inside this company, don't know the departmental functions unique to this company, but you know this company is making a loss. Do you know where the trouble with this company lies? Do you know which department to tighten and which department to expand to bring in more profits? I tell you who to blame, the CEO in charge of running this company, for he is directly responsible for all the hiccups.
You should learn to fire live rounds instead of blanks.
Comming from someone who claims i have limited mental abilities, I am shocked that you don't even understand the simple phrase of point blank, proving you are not well read, thus perhaps the reason for your rather shallow intellect. As usual, i will leave it to others to determine who should quit before he proofs a fool.
And as for your reply, it is an attempt to cover up the inadequecies of the opposition parties, just like Atobe - nothing more than excuses for their lack of reason being. I had said much in my other posts and unlike repetitious likes of you, I will leave your post for others to judge the merits of your excuses on behalf of the opposition parties.
Thank you for your contribution, but i am sure many here would prefer less of your spittle.
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Originally posted by Point_blank:
Comming from someone who claims i have limited mental abilities, I am shocked that you don't even understand the simple phrase of point blank, proving you are not well read, thus perhaps the reason for your rather shallow intellect. As usual, i will leave it to others to determine who should quit before he proofs a fool.
And as for your reply, it is an attempt to cover up the inadequecies of the opposition parties, just like Atobe - nothing more than excuses for their lack of reason being. I had said much in my other posts and unlike repetitious likes of you, I will leave your post for others to judge the merits of your excuses on behalf of the opposition parties.
Thank you for your contribution, but i am sure many here would prefer less of your spittle.
I am interpreting point blank in the context of your post, mainly blank points, devoid of substance, akin to firing blanks.
I'd rather you engage me in your own words, "critical analysis".
Are you able to point out the problems and solutions of a company merely by looking at the loss figure? If you can't, then don't expect opposition parties to do likewise for the P4P's government. Inflation at 7.5%, surely there are major errors in policies in the past few years.
GDP at 6.7% while inflation at 7.5%, there is no real GDP growth, only inflationary growth.
Like I said P4P has been running the government for eons now, they can't even figure out their mistake, yet you expect opposition members who has never even seen the company in vivo to come up with solutions for P4P's mistakes.
You chasing me away because you can't handle the debate?
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point_blank, I invite you to reply to Atobe point-by-point. Let's see some rebuttal here!
I'm afraid that if you really can't respond to his arguments, then you're conceding that Atobe's points are valid. Up to you.
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
Like I said P4P has been running the government for eons now, they can't even figure out their mistake, yet you expect opposition members who has never even seen the company in vivo to come up with solutions for P4P's mistakes.
You chasing me away because you can't handle the debate?
The gist and fallacy of your post is that i 'expect opposition members who has never even seen the company in vivo to come up with solutions for P4P's mistakes.'1. Aren't you contridicting yourself? If the opposition members 'who has never even seen the company', how would know there are mistakes in the first place?
2. If they deem what they 'allege' are mistakes, then what are their solutions? Even a 10 year old child can shout out alleged wrongs. But then being kids they may not be able to rectify. But the opposition parties are not 10yr olds...or are they?
So kiddo, I have heard all kinds of allegations the opposition parties make, but are they substantiated? Do they have any solid evidences to prove malpractices?
You claim i shoot blanks. I say you shoot wildly. If the opposition parties continues to live in delusions and not start working on credible solutions to solve the daily issues of the comman person, then their demise and relevance to the People will end soon.
I ask again: they have made many claims of wrong doings - now where are the evidences and solutions? Can you answer me, maurizio13? You can back off now and say you didnt make any claims and push responsibility back to the opposition parties. Perfect excuse.