WAR???
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Latest news from malaysia showed malaysian FM telling singapore to either compromise or go to WAR.......
I must say... this FM of malaysia is really really original and fantastic....
When he was Minister of defence.. he nearly told the whole world that he belive that the globe... is flat...
Now as foreign minister... he is telling singapore that IF we cant compromise ... Singapore should go into malaysia and kill malaysians....
I must say... few if ever... have i heard of senior officials from any nations actually requesting their neighbouring country to go and kill his own people if they so wishes!!
Are malaysian lives so cheap?? are malaysian families so worthless in his eyes??? are malaysian's peace so expendable?? if NOT then.. why the clamour for blood?
is this guy retarded or did he lost his marbles?(probably both)
Was hamid really voted into the malaysian parliament by its people or did he got in by hiding underneath mahatir's sarong??
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might be nice if u had included the source of this alleged remark...Originally posted by tripwire:Latest news from malaysia showed malaysian FM telling singapore to either compromise or go to WAR....... -
December 31 , 2002 09:04AMOriginally posted by CX:might be nice if u had included the source of this alleged remark...
Strategic And National Interest Could Be The Basis For Future Ties, Says Syed Hamid
PUTRAJAYA, Dec 31 (Bernama) -- Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said ties between Malaysia and Singapore could be based on strategic and national interest in future, no more on the concept of being neighbourly.
This is because of both countries regard bilateral ties differently with Malaysia being neighbourly while Singapore cares only about its economy, he said.
"I think if we look at the foreign policy of a country, the core of its policy is its strategic and national interest," he told reporters after attending a Hari Raya get-together organised by Malaysian Youth Foundation, here Monday night.
He said the strain in relations between Malaysia and Singapore would remain if Singapore is very aloof with its foreign policy.
To a question, Syed Hamid said: "This is not the question of compromise...Singapore has two choices. If it refuses to compromise...go to war." But war, he said, is not the solution in resolving problems between two countries.
"The approach in knowing what is ours and not to give in without knowing what is ours," he said, adding that the time had come for Malaysia to think business like to benefit from its ties with other countries.
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Cant they think of anything better? When come to war, who will suffer? It's the civilian at the end of the stupid days..... Economic will be bad and everything have to start from scrape again...
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Originally posted by Gun:
Frankly... malaysia doesnt want a COMPROMISE per se...
December 31 , 2002 09:04AM
Strategic And National Interest Could Be The Basis For Future Ties, Says Syed Hamid
PUTRAJAYA, Dec 31 (Bernama) -- Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said ties between Malaysia and Singapore could be based on strategic and national interest in future, no more on the concept of being neighbourly.
This is because of both countries regard bilateral ties differently with Malaysia being neighbourly while Singapore cares only about its economy, he said.
"I think if we look at the foreign policy of a country, the core of its policy is its strategic and national interest," he told reporters after attending a Hari Raya get-together organised by Malaysian Youth Foundation, here Monday night.
He said the strain in relations between Malaysia and Singapore would remain if Singapore is very aloof with its foreign policy.
To a question, Syed Hamid said: "This is not the question of compromise...[b]Singapore has two choices. If it refuses to compromise...go to war." But war, he said, is not the solution in resolving problems between two countries.
"The approach in knowing what is ours and not to give in without knowing what is ours," he said, adding that the time had come for Malaysia to think business like to benefit from its ties with other countries.
-- BERNAMA
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what they really want is us GIVING in to their DEMANDS...if not their every WISH and ORDERS...
that Hamid should go back to his kampong and croak like a frog IF he thinks MAF can take on SAF.... -
Like his father before him, during the early politics of Singapore in Malaysia during the 1960's, he is now just as bad as his father was.Originally posted by Gun:December 31 , 2002 09:04AM
Strategic And National Interest Could Be The Basis For Future Ties, Says Syed Hamid
PUTRAJAYA, Dec 31 (Bernama) -- Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said .................
"The approach in knowing what is ours and not to give in without knowing what is ours," he said, adding that the time had come for Malaysia to think business like to benefit from its ties with other countries.
-- BERNAMA
His father was a "blue blooded" Malay Racist Bigot in the guise of a Malay Nationalist; and has always been an antagonist towards Singapore, especially towards Singapore's Ruling Party, and personally towards SM Lee - (for showing up the weaknesses of the Malays???). (Ref: Politics in Singapore in the 1960's - materials found in most Libraries).
How do you talk with someone who speak of :-
"To KNOW what belongs to you, and NOT giving up something that you DON'T KNOW belongs to you" ?
To Malaysia's FM -
"How can any thing belong to you, if you don't even know that it belong's to you?"
"How can you give away anything that you don't even know that you have?"
Such is the brilliance of this man who try so hard to be the next PM after the present one has gone senile.
Has the issue of succession yet to be resolved? If not, be prepared for more Singapore-bashing tough talks ahead. -
If he could think properly, he would not hav made that remarks....guess it is a ploy for him to raise his profile ( to show his hard and tough character).Originally posted by edLow:Cant they think of anything better? When come to war, who will suffer? It's the civilian at the end of the stupid days..... Economic will be bad and everything have to start from scrape again...
Think!
i am just a bit worried when Mahathir steps down (not tat he is tat fantastic), and the younger group takes over, how rash can they be...plus our team of government is also getting younger and never braved the tension times their ancestors have had...
Maybe a common enemy will united the 2...e.g. a terrorist attack that affect both sides (but let's not hope 4 that at all)
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Ooo lah lah. . . never been this close to war before . . . what a comment. . .
has singapore responded? if not, I'll be interested to see our gov't response if they do respond to crap form an idiot who just happens to be in a high post. . .
maybe mindef will start a few open mobilisations soon. . . -
I doubt our sg gov will respond to such newspaper report...unless the fellow start to provoke again, and put troops up the borderOriginally posted by laser51088:Ooo lah lah. . . never been this close to war before . . . what a comment. . .
has singapore responded? if not, I'll be interested to see our gov't response if they do respond to crap form an idiot who just happens to be in a high post. . .
maybe mindef will start a few open mobilisations soon. . . -
the attack not on our side will do.Originally posted by sgboy2004:If he could think properly, he would not hav made that remarks....guess it is a ploy for him to raise his profile ( to show his hard and tough character).
i am just a bit worried when Mahathir steps down (not tat he is tat fantastic), and the younger group takes over, how rash can they be...plus our team of government is also getting younger and never braved the tension times their ancestors have had...
Maybe a common enemy will united the 2...e.g. a terrorist attack that affect both sides (but let's not hope 4 that at all)
Or prehap, we managed to stop the terrorist attack before it became a nightmare to the people.
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Ya agreeable, thou it's sillypore here.... At least we still know how to think unlike.......Originally posted by sgboy2004:I doubt our sg gov will respond to such newspaper report...unless the fellow start to provoke again, and put troops up the border -
sillypore?
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Dear Gentlemen,
I believe this talk about war with Singapore definitely presents a "CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER" to Singapore. The Malaysian Government has definitely gone overboard in distracting its' citizen in their economic woes and trying to gain some votes for their up coming national elections.
"A good neighbour doesn't threaten their neighbour with force when they fight over a pot of flowers on their corridor."
A gentle reminder : For those who are familar with the background which started the Gulf War, the Malaysian Government are behaving very similarly to the Iraqi Government except this time instead of cruel oil, it's WATER. The Iraqi Government had claimed that the Kuwaitis had occupied the Bubiyan Island which belongs to them and stole oil from the oil field. And the rest I guess every body know what happened.
The Malaysian Government may not be as crazy as the Iraqi. Let's not forget that we do not know what is in their mind exactly. The next thing they would claimed is that Singapore used to be part of the Johore Sultanate and wish to reclaimed their rights on the Island.
We definitely have to step up our vigilance against Malaysia but not over-reacting. We cannot let what happened to the Kuwaitis happen to us.
I think we (the citizens of Singapore) should show that we are united behind the Government of Singapore on their stand. We should show our protest by STOP visiting Malaysia, STOP importing their produce, STOP all forms of investment in Malaysia etc. (I believe the Singapore Government cannot and will not make such request on their citizens as it will be seen as a provoking act leading to war.)
We should not let the Malaysian Government dictate our lives.
And for all the NSMen, please treat your In-Camp Training seriously as we have a CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER !!!! -
Originally posted by Broken Arrow:
hear hear!!!
Dear Gentlemen,
I believe this talk about war with Singapore definitely presents a "[b]CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER" to Singapore. The Malaysian Government has definitely gone overboard in distracting its' citizen in their economic woes and trying to gain some votes for their up coming national elections.
"A good neighbour doesn't threaten their neighbour with force when they fight over a pot of flowers on their corridor."
A gentle reminder : For those who are familar with the background which started the Gulf War, the Malaysian Government are behaving very similarly to the Iraqi Government except this time instead of cruel oil, it's WATER. The Iraqi Government had claimed that the Kuwaitis had occupied the Bubiyan Island which belongs to them and stole oil from the oil field. And the rest I guess every body know what happened.
The Malaysian Government may not be as crazy as the Iraqi. Let's not forget that we do not know what is in their mind exactly. The next thing they would claimed is that Singapore used to be part of the Johore Sultanate and wish to reclaimed their rights on the Island.
We definitely have to step up our vigilance against Malaysia but not over-reacting. We cannot let what happened to the Kuwaitis happen to us.
I think we (the citizens of Singapore) should show that we are united behind the Government of Singapore on their stand. We should show our protest by STOP visiting Malaysia, STOP importing their produce, STOP all forms of investment in Malaysia etc. (I believe the Singapore Government cannot and will not make such request on their citizens as it will be seen as a provoking act leading to war.)
We should not let the Malaysian Government dictate our lives.
And for all the NSMen, please treat your In-Camp Training seriously as we have a CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER !!!![/b]
*for 3 Div 9 Sib mortar platoon, i am ur new PC. see u all in the June in-camp* -
Originally posted by whiteillum:hear hear!!!
*for 3 Div 9 Sib mortar platoon, i am ur new PC. see u all in the June in-camp* .......indeed clear n present danger.... ......
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there were many more close calls in the past whereby armour units were on high alert, and stationed in woodlands with their guns pointing across the border, and the tanks were there too.Originally posted by laser51088:Ooo lah lah. . . never been this close to war before . . . what a comment. . .
has singapore responded? if not, I'll be interested to see our gov't response if they do respond to crap form an idiot who just happens to be in a high post. . .
maybe mindef will start a few open mobilisations soon. . .
This, today, is nothing yet.
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Serious? I guess they do hide well den.Originally posted by sgboy2004:there were many more close calls in the past whereby armour units were on high alert, and stationed in woodlands with their guns pointing across the border, and the tanks were there too.
This, today, is nothing yet. -
Come on, that FM is a big dickhead, whats new?
talk cock only...as if they stand a chance in war... -
Well, if War is what he wants for his 2003 wishlist, lets make his dream come true!!!
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Originally posted by Broken Arrow:
Dear Gentlemen,
I believe this talk about war with Singapore definitely presents a "[b]CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER" to Singapore. The Malaysian Government has definitely gone overboard in distracting its' citizen in their economic woes and trying to gain some votes for their up coming national elections.
"A good neighbour doesn't threaten their neighbour with force when they fight over a pot of flowers on their corridor."
A gentle reminder : For those who are familar with the background which started the Gulf War, the Malaysian Government are behaving very similarly to the Iraqi Government except this time instead of cruel oil, it's WATER. The Iraqi Government had claimed that the Kuwaitis had occupied the Bubiyan Island which belongs to them and stole oil from the oil field. And the rest I guess every body know what happened.
The Malaysian Government may not be as crazy as the Iraqi. Let's not forget that we do not know what is in their mind exactly. The next thing they would claimed is that Singapore used to be part of the Johore Sultanate and wish to reclaimed their rights on the Island.
We definitely have to step up our vigilance against Malaysia but not over-reacting. We cannot let what happened to the Kuwaitis happen to us.
I think we (the citizens of Singapore) should show that we are united behind the Government of Singapore on their stand. We should show our protest by STOP visiting Malaysia, STOP importing their produce, STOP all forms of investment in Malaysia etc. (I believe the Singapore Government cannot and will not make such request on their citizens as it will be seen as a provoking act leading to war.)
We should not let the Malaysian Government dictate our lives.
And for all the NSMen, please treat your In-Camp Training seriously as we have a CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER !!!![/b]
malaysia ............. behave like iraqi....... too bad...... we not kuwait hor!!! suka suka slaughter us?? hahahaahahha ask that FM go and do some research on SAF first lah......
guyz... dont forget that BEES is damn damn small...... but when you gonna sting by a bee... kekekekkekek dont kpkb hor..... -
I believe that its takes alot to be a minister of a country. He should be someone who is careful with his words infront of the media and the public, especially words aimed specifically at other countries. Just like our PM, who is careful with his words and everything he says, may have some covered meaning.
Since he(malaysia) said " Go to WAR", his government must have considered that as one of the option. I dun believe that what he said is a slip of his tongue or wadever excuse his pm would say to cover up his subordinate's words.
But i believe that SAF is not totally superior to the MAF. A war would result with many casualties on our side too. They are not stupid. I'm sure they have secrets (weapons), that are able to hold back(for a while) a Singapore Divisional onslaught. However, night raids from the air(F16D) and land(elites) would slaughter them. So, get ready soldiers.... to feed them with bullets.
Btw, does SAF rangers undergo Prisioner-of-War treatment as one of their training? I heard this from somewhere, accidentally. Can NDU or any rangers here please enlighten me? Does the NDU go through the same thing? -
Originally posted by Airborne Guards:I believe that its takes alot to be a minister of a country. He should be someone who is careful with his words infront of the media and the public, especially words aimed specifically at other countries. Just like our PM, who is careful with his words and everything he says, may have some covered meaning.
Since he(malaysia) said " Go to WAR", his government must have considered that as one of the option. I dun believe that what he said is a slip of his tongue or wadever excuse his pm would say to cover up his subordinate's words.
But i believe that SAF is not totally superior to the MAF. A war would result with many casualties on our side too. They are not stupid. I'm sure they have secrets (weapons), that are able to hold back(for a while) a Singapore Divisional onslaught. However, night raids from the air(F16D) and land(elites) would slaughter them. So, get ready soldiers.... to feed them with bullets.
Btw, does SAF rangers undergo Prisioner-of-War treatment as one of their training? I heard this from somewhere, accidentally. Can NDU or any rangers here please enlighten me? Does the NDU go through the same thing? kkekeek POW trainin? hahahah we not that FIT to go through that lah.... i think commamdo also dont have lah.... but ranger sure have lah.... coz those guyz whom attend the course got it b4... ... -
Suffice to say.... those who went through ranger POW trainning...Originally posted by NDU: kkekeek POW trainin? hahahah we not that FIT to go through that lah.... i think commamdo also dont have lah.... but ranger sure have lah.... coz those guyz whom attend the course got it b4... ...
Surrender would be the furthest thing in their mind... aint no ranger gonna surrender after having gone through POW trainning...
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no lah... actually our A- Team have also lah..... but for what i know... the Ranger really go through shit!!!Originally posted by tripwire:Suffice to say.... those who went through ranger POW trainning...
Surrender would be the furthest thing in their mind... aint no ranger gonna surrender after having gone through POW trainning...
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how do rangers get picked?
they are chosen (best of the best) or they sign up one?