The Biggest Winner in all these TV fund raising campaigns ..
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Was channel surfing and caught a bit of that Mediacorp Sichuan Earthquake fundraising on TV .... (which I am NOT donating to btw .... China is rich now, all my donation dollars are going to the Red Cross' Burma fund instead, I think a third world country would need more aid )
But what struck me, was the 1900 numbers used for donations ....
it appears to me that the biggest winner in all these tele-fundraising events, NKF (*ptui !), president star charity, ren chi and all the rest .... appears to be Singtel ....
what's the charge again ? ... 30 cents for each call ? .... which is more than the normal landline call from your house, multiply that by a 20,30 thousand times ...
wow ! .....
Why can't they absord the costs, since it's for charity ? ... all this while, there's only one party that's been laughing all the way to the bank ... (okie .... perhaps during those NKF shows, it was two)
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Originally posted by Fatum:
Was channel surfing and caught a bit of that Mediacorp Sichuan Earthquake fundraising on TV .... (which I am NOT donating to btw .... China is rich now, all my donation dollars are going to the Red Cross' Burma fund instead, I think a third world country would need more aid )
But what struck me, was the 1900 numbers used for donations ....
it appears to me that the biggest winner in all these tele-fundraising events, NKF (*ptui !), president star charity, ren chi and all the rest .... appears to be Singtel ....
what's the charge again ? ... 30 cents for each call ? .... which is more than the normal landline call from your house, multiply that by a 20,30 thousand times ...
wow ! .....
Why can't they absord the costs, since it's for charity ? ... all this while, there's only one party that's been laughing all the way to the bank ... (okie .... perhaps during those NKF shows, it was two)
Donate to Burma? You must be kidding...nobody can even know where those money will eventually end up. Most probably end up in the pockets of their junta to buy weapon from...ahem.China may be richer but they're at least a little bit more transparent in handling the donations (not to say they're corruption free though)
But I agree...wonder why 'admin' costs cannot be absorbed since it's for charity.
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uhh... now than you know?
all this is known but people dismiss or refuse to know about it until some shit like the NKF blows up... then they ask "how come no one say anything?"
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I was starting to feel a bit embarrassed about donating too little to the China disaster fund when I was at Boxhill this afternoon but after reading the posts here, I don't feel so bad anymore.
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Originally posted by annoy-you-must:
Donate to Burma? You must be kidding...nobody can even know where those money will eventually end up. Most probably end up in the pockets of their junta to buy weapon from...ahem.China may be richer but they're at least a little bit more transparent in handling the donations (not to say they're corruption free though)
But I agree...wonder why 'admin' costs cannot be absorbed since it's for charity.
Dude, I'm talking about donating to the Singapore Red Cross, not to the Burmese goverment ..... the red cross is not our NKF .....
I wouldn't know where the money is really going to in China either, neh ? ... the way i see it, this is just a publicity exercise ...
neways ... yeah ... in the end, there's only one winner ... let's hope that people would finally wise up now ....
(you guys watch btw, in the next few days, there'll be a write up in the "strict times" explaining the 30 cents charges ... )
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Becos rulers in Burma are more likely to squabble aid funds so we have to deny the thousands of disaster victims help and relief?
Its the first time that Ive seen a local charity event on tv collecting donations for disaster in a foreign country. Why is there a show for the Si chuan quake but none for the Myanmar cyclone?
Its definitely a very good jesture by Singapore to have such a charity programme on tv... just that I hope people will oso help the cyclone victims
Locally... there are lots of needy people that need our help oso... spare them some thought for them as well...
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what actually warrants the charge of $0.30? Manning the lines? I thought its all automated? Leasing of dedicated lines? Singtel's the monopoly with all landlines here i guess...
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I shall say it out again ....
when you donate to the red cross ... you know you are donating to an organization staffed mostly with volunteers who will try their darnest to get aid to the needy ... you are NOT donating to the junta's pockets ...
but look at this Charity drive again .... who are you donating to ? ... mind you, this is a country who spends more than 50 BILLION US DOLLARS a year on arms ... and has run an expensive and successful space program that has sent a chap into space ... with the world's hottest and fastest growing economy ... rich enough to host the olympics just for the prestige of it ....
compared that to a third world shit hole whose goverment doesn't even care about it's people .... a country that's still mostly paddy fields and teakwood forests, whose primary exports are teak, fish, cheap nurses/engineers, and herion, not neccessarily in that order
now you tell me ... in all honesty, which one's more deserving to you ? ...
nevermind ... to each his own of course ....
But I am still pissed off about the call surcharges ....
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I'm sorry , my $$ will not turn any stones or wheels. China's chinese should be more concerned and the Red Army have all the resources they need for the rebuilding.
The amt of $$$ contributed will still not be able to rebuilt their broken Families. The facilities are built by their poor Contractors who slash cut-throat prices and will continue to do so.
The social problem is created by themselves and their Wealthy people. China doesn't need the resources they already have?
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Originally posted by Master -_-:
what actually warrants the charge of $0.30? Manning the lines? I thought its all automated? Leasing of dedicated lines? Singtel's the monopoly with all landlines here i guess...
I think you said it ... with a monopoly one can do anything ...
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Bo pian singtel lea .
Go set up one company and win singtel lo .
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Originally posted by MeepokBoy:
Becos rulers in Burma are more likely to squabble aid funds so we have to deny the thousands of disaster victims help and relief?
Its the first time that Ive seen a local charity event on tv collecting donations for disaster in a foreign country. Why is there a show for the Si chuan quake but none for the Myanmar cyclone?
Its definitely a very good jesture by Singapore to have such a charity programme on tv... just that I hope people will oso help the cyclone victims
Locally... there are lots of needy people that need our help oso... spare them some thought for them as well...
basically, mediacorp is holding this charity programme for publicity. if it is really concern about helping the countries affected, burma is the one that needs more help. china has a freaking $12billion aid fund, whereas for burma, there's none that i know of. (pls enlighten me otherwise)
furthermore, the burmese victims suffered longer as compared to the sichuan quake victim, with the cyclone nargis striking earlier than the quake.
Also, their country isn't bless by the fact that it has rich patriots who are willing to donate millions of dollars for aid relieve. (look at yao ming and liu xiang).
they are just a bunch of needy people who deserve more aid.
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Mediacorp.... Singtel.... all same... all under one roof...
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i do wish singtel is not using these sort of surcharge for their revenue rite? hopefully they will be wise up n use these money to donate as well.
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Originally posted by 798:
i do wish singtel is not using these sort of surcharge for their revenue rite? hopefully they will be wise up n use these money to donate as well.
they better. its immoral to skim profits off the backs of those poor victims. -
Many companies with PRC employees have initiated a fund raising campaign to help the quake victims.
One representative will then deliver the funds to the embassy.
Why need singtel or mediacorpse?
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well .. it's not been the case for as long as I could remember .....
remember those NKF shows during their gold tap halcyon days ? ...
I still remember the numbers ....
"请打 1900-112-68-68“ ....
money to the NFK .... and money to the telecom with each call ....
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I would not donate to Burma, the government is not trust worthy. See what happened to all the food and money...the citizen got none of it....
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Originally posted by tarutaru:
I would not donate to Burma, the government is not trust worthy. See what happened to all the food and money...the citizen got none of it....
go read what I said please
... but of course .. the decision is yours ....Btw, the Singapore Red Cross accepts donations for both sichuan and burma through walk in donations, mailed checques, bank transfers, internet banking, phone banking (through toll free 1800 numbers, no less) and AXS payments ....
if you guys don't feel like enriching the "sole winner" any further, but would give a little something for either of these places .... please take a look
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At prime-time 6.00 pm - 11.00 pm a 30-sec commercial costs $3,000 - $6,000.00. How many seconds were each of the ministers and MPs and senior civil servants given to sell their one-sided news?
Multiply this rate by the news devoted to the government and the time slot taken by all of them we will know why as a country we are no longer being governed for the good of all or the majority. Conversely multiply the rate and the time slot devoted to solving citizens' problems and discussing issues or exploring greater solutions and suggestions made by citizens or exploring oppositions' works in their wards or in raising issues in parliament and we will know what contributions are the TVs like Channel News Asia making to the citizens.
Should citizens have a greater say in the allocation of time devoted to government as against people's news and problems?
If the answer is no then should citizens pay less TV licence fees and let ministers or ruling party pay for their prime time slots which should be devoted to citizens and news.
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I personally think these charity show were merely another way for those sponsor to advertise themselves.
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if you want to donate just donate. why you discussing where the money will go to, if you use your heart to donate then you alrdy done your part if they skim the donated money off then someone else will be there to punish them. The ppl in these 2 countries need lots of help at least we are considered better off them cause we can still sit infront of our comp and type all these words.
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'we are not a charitable organisation.'
sounds familiar???
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Originally posted by benjee:
if you want to donate just donate. why you discussing where the money will go to, if you use your heart to donate then you alrdy done your part if they skim the donated money off then someone else will be there to punish them. The ppl in these 2 countries need lots of help at least we are considered better off them cause we can still sit infront of our comp and type all these words.
But I think it's very healthy to question where your donation dollars are going to ... how are they being spent ....
remember the gold taps and the 600k peanuts of the NKF ? ... that was the result of our apathy ... we all need to share in the collective guilt of being unquestioning drones who didn't ask what was happening ... do you want a redux ? ...
you may want to leave it to God or the almighty to punish people who feed off charity dollars, but I believe that the debts of this world must be reckoned in this one .... if you just dump your coins and notes into a tin can when it comes to you and hope for the best, and nothing comes out of it in the end, what difference does it make to those you were trying to help ? ... certainly not those in need ... maybe only you, who may have felt that 5 minutes glow of having done a good deed for the day ? ....
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Originally posted by Hogzilla:
I personally think these charity show were merely another way for those sponsor to advertise themselves.
Totally agree! If someone, an organisation or company wants to make a donation... why do they even wan to spend money on tv telling people watching "I donated money to the Si Chuan quake"Come on lar.... using the suffering of others for their own publicity and benefit... what a shame!