The Biggest Winner in all these TV fund raising campaigns ..
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i stop donating since NKF , that time i spend like around 350d to call , cause i really want to help.
now i really very scared to donate.
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I won't be donating a single cent at all to either China or Burma.
China themselves has more than sufficient funds to rebuild SiChuan. I don't understand why the need to send them any more money.
Burma? I shudder to think where the money will go. And to think they have the nerve and the cheek to ask for 11 billion in cash! Yes! 11 billion to help rebuild Burma when they won't even allow any foreign aids to step on to their soil. They only want money to line their own pocket. You think the military government will really use the money to help the victims???
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Originally posted by FocusPoint:
I won't be donating a single cent at all to either China or Burma.
China themselves has more than sufficient funds to rebuild SiChuan. I don't understand why the need to send them any more money.
Burma? I shudder to think where the money will go. And to think they have the nerve and the cheek to ask for 11 billion in cash! Yes! 11 billion to help rebuild Burma when they won't even allow any foreign aids to step on to their soil. They only want money to line their own pocket. You think the military government will really use the money to help the victims???
I personnally dun think so for China case. Yes, they have the $$, I never deny that. However, we must see it this way. The Chinese government is trying to solve 13 billion (I think it's about 14 billion now, I can't confirm the stats) peoples' small problem, so when you multiple a small problem by 13 billion, it will become a BIG problem. The Sichuan quake is part of the BIG problem. Besides, I think what we are donating is based on humanitarian ground. Of course, we donors, deserves to know how our donations were being spent by the organizations we donate to.
As for Myammar, I dun really feel like donating. Who knows? maybe the $1 you donated will be use to buy a cup of rice that will be used in the wedding of a certain general's daughter?
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whatever the 30cents is paid for, the telecommunications co. should absorb the 30cents. Comeon! 30cents may be very alittle but people are doing some charitable work here, the telecommunications co. can at least support the whole charitable event by absorbing the cost! and not take the advantage to earn. Even if not earning, then give some support!
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what the cost of mediacorp for these funds raising program time?
remember last time seen before should be around few hundred thousand dollars,
so this time all wear round neck printed T shirt, but their makeup still using more expensive water-proofed type! what the different? saving from clothing! spent on cosmatic?
35 call-in lines! where got enough? Hong Kong and Taiwan had more than 100 call-in lines, even their immediate president with first lady were present not only to grace the event, but also sit on the task, as telephone operater answer call-in, where our SGP president?
and why must call-in be S$50 and above? taiwan TV fund raising even call-in with Taiwan dollar 100 = S$4.45, even these small amount their donor name also appear scrolling across TV screen.
the whole taiwan TV fund raising, do not has singer performing except some occassion really do not has empty sits for them to be telephone operator they then sing with sad mode.
worst part of last night fund raising program, TV screen shot of latest fashion up coming program. what they expecting us to re-act? crying then happy mode with seconds to crying mode again!
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Where money is concerned, it will always be not enough.
The telecommunications co. will never absorb the 30cents but raise it to 50cents.
Mediacorp will create more funds raising program like those superbands, project superstars, ...etc. Because it had lose 2 major charities.
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I dont understand some of the points here.....I think there is a lot of myths....
Why are some people saying...China is rich....no need for donation money...
I dont understand this logic at all.
OK lets say USA had hurricane Katrina.....lets say overseas people want to donate to USA, through whatever channel, Red Cross or else........should they also be thinking, nono, USA is the richest country in the world, no need for our small money...
I dont get this logic at all.
If you want to help, please help, it doesnt matter whether a country is rich or poor.
Besides, this point that China is rich, I think is a fallacy. They still need help. And they really do need it.
Just afew days ago, I read China made an announcement of cutting 5% of all government budget.
Actually alot of people there are homeless now. Maybe in the order of millions. That means they need countless tents and all sorts of other needs.
I dont get the impression at all that China can overcome this massive challenge smoothly on its own. I dont think any country can. Outside help can make alot of positive impact to reduce the sufferings of the people there, and in faster time.
Meat Pao.
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
I dont understand some of the points here.....I think there is a lot of myths....
Why are some people saying...China is rich....no need for donation money...
I dont understand this logic at all.
OK lets say USA had hurricane Katrina.....lets say overseas people want to donate to USA, through whatever channel, Red Cross or else........should they also be thinking, nono, USA is the richest country in the world, no need for our small money...
I dont get this logic at all.
If you want to help, please help, it doesnt matter whether a country is rich or poor.
Besides, this point that China is rich, I think is a fallacy. They still need help. And they really do need it.
Just afew days ago, I read China made an announcement of cutting 5% of all government budget.
Actually alot of people there are homeless now. Maybe in the order of millions. That means they need countless tents and all sorts of other needs.
I dont get the impression at all that China can overcome this massive challenge smoothly on its own. I dont think any country can. Outside help can make alot of positive impact to reduce the sufferings of the people there, and in faster time.
Meat Pao.
They mean china had alot of millionaires and their economy is growing very fast. A lot of people are living in luxury. China has $2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves.
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I dont have much comments regarding the comparison of Myanmar and China disasters, comparing which one is worse. I think let it be for each individual's decision. For some people, maybe they will make a comparison, and then they decide which one to help. For other people, they wont do this comparison. For instance, I am sure Myanmarese would be far more likely to donate to Myanmar cyclone than China earthquake. Similarly for Chinese, it is far more likely to donate to China earthquake. This is just natural. I dont have much comments on this, let each person decide.
People who are non-Myanmarse and non-Chinese, maybe they are more predisposed to make a comparison. But for a Myanmarese, and for a Chinese, it is natural they tend to help their own 'family'.
I dont know about that Singtel 30 cents charge. Dont know what to say. In a sense 'admin charges' seems wrong in donation drives. But to shun it because of these 'admin charges' seem like even bigger wrong. Singtel is just an actor in this drama, an intermediary. The bigger picture is the help towards victims.
Meat Pao.
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At tis period of time, i dun understand why are there pple who are still so particular over which country deserves more or no help?
If wanna contribute, then do. If not, keep those harsh words to ownselves. Nobody in either countries deserves that.
Basically, i dun give a hoot on SG's charity shows anymore. If i wanna donate, i'll do it in a more direct ways rather than thru those flashy tactics.
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Sometimes i don't even trust what most of the charity organizations are doing...I think its safe to say donating to red cross would be reliable and they will get their donations to the people who really need them...
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i normally donate to children's home.. cause i pity those poor kids who will grow up without any parents.
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Just Think, if Singapore has disaster like that, will other countries help too? i think the answer is yes...we r living in one world, we r all families, if u dun wan to donate, dun make other ppl dun donate too. U r making the suitation wrost, in fact, u r actually killing some of the victims.
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You leak out all the secrets liao...
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Majority of the people are mislead, misguided, misinterpret or whatever you want to call it about the word 'Donate'. Donation in its true sense doesn't just point to monetary. It can be in any form. However for example sake, most dictionary has noted down donation as giving in any form and then added this stupid word 'ESPECIALLY' money.
Let's put it this way. When a victim of the earthquake now is suffering in hunger, would you say give him money or food? If you give him money, where do you think he is going to buy food when it's not instantly available? Ok, you can argue that money can be given to the government. Right, you gave it to the government but it takes a long time for the government to purchase the food and then transport it to the disaster zone. That takes time. Why go around the camel's balls to do things? Why not just send the food directly and immediately that we've donated to the affected area which cut short the route? Moreover how sure are we that our monies will really really be put into good use that is by buying the necessities for the victims?
Singapore has sent a team of abled men to help. To me that is a form of donation - donating our effort. Bear in mind these abled men are our sons who are risking their lives in a highly dangerous area. Isn't that is a greater cause than money?
As for Myannmar. The world has donated lots of necessities like foods and medical supplies but it doesn't even reach the victims until days later. And the joke of the year was the food supplies were labled with Thiem Sen's name! (Somebody correct me on that sh*thead name please) Why need to put his name when the food supplies were from the world. Can you imagine even food supplies and medicals also take days before it finally reach its vicitms, I couldn't imagine if the monies will really be put into good use should it reaches his hands!
Anyway just my 2 knuts.
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Allow me...
1. I do agree that there has been a resurgence of calls and 'live' tv programs to encourage, persuade, influence people to donate. Influence need not be a bad word.
2. Are charity shows and donations programs really non-profitable to everyone?
Out of the 9 million collected, how much actually went to the needy?
Who are those earning revenue from this, if any? I no no. I dam stewpig wan. Tell me.
3. IF there is 1 company or organisation that will increase its revenue with charity shows, would they not be eager to have more? I mean, why do they not give all this revenue derived from those kind hearted and innocents who wants their money to go directly to the needy ? Are they doing that? If not , can I say they are profiting?
4. Many people call for donation. I wonder among these, the well off ones, how much have they donated exactly clearly absolutely? I expect them to walk the talk.
For example, if average people salary is 3000, and say this person donates 30 dolloars, by proportion, a person earning say 3 0 0 0 0 0 a month! should be donating at least 100 times that amount which is 3000 dollars.
Are they doing that?
5. Since the NNKKFF fiasco, many have not donated. I get the feeling that with this kinds of encouragement, more would return to donating. Good or bad is debatable , like everything under the sun.
6. I also notice more calling for funds to be donated by the people to get some things done. Why the rich don't do these good deeds instead? or at least are they doing it together with the poorer ones who are helping?
7. I call for implementation of publishing every cent of public donation received on the internet for all to view. There should be nothing that could not be disclosed.
Donation account Debited Credited purpose
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100000 x y expenses
etc.
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i dun donate to china. They have more than sufficient resources.
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they purposely cry in the programme to make use of human sympathy to make them donate
damn smart, its out in the news summore
smarter people would have already donated to red cross directly
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Originally posted by gigabyte14:..
smarter people would have already donated to red cross directly
hard to say one mah, average auntie uncle wun know what...