Is is true LTA drag its feet on saftiness in school minibus?
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The senior Minister of State for transport said LTA would commission experts to study installling safety belts in minbuses and the study would take 3 to 6 months.What is there to study?It is either 2 or 3 points safety bellts.3-points one is much safer.2-points saftey belt is not as safe as 3-points one but is better than no safety belt at all.
About 3 years ago, the former Transport Minister said installing safety belts in school minibuses would add more cost to parents and so his ministry was not in favour of it.
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you would pay more for the scheme or insist tat e operator must jiak kaki and settle everything?
you think is tat easy? it also affects future new buses seat config and so on...
stop whining
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Yes, users have to pay more having seat belts.The govt has already decided to installed them on minibuses.Safety or money is more important?
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Originally posted by PRP:
Yes, users have to pay more having seat belts.The govt has already decided to installed them on minibuses.Safety or money is more important?
configuation... end up how many seats got to be removed or adjustments?just trying to hum tum go it for e sake of stop gap measure?
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at first i read LTA, then i read Safti, i thought it had something to do with the SAF.
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mini bus operator asking gov to bit the bullet, but gov still thinking,
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Its not the seatbelts that causes the price raise. Its the number of children that can be squeezed into the minibus.
Without seat belts, a 10 seater can take 15 children. With seat belts, only 10.
So the 10 must pay 50% more to makeup for the shortfall.
Maybe the minibus operator could be phased out. And replaced by professional school bus operators who uses large 42 seater buses.
And we will have another victim of restructuring.
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... like with everything else, Sh|t must Hit the Fan first, then, there will be follow ups...
... So many tree branches crashed onto cars on our roads over the past 5 years, and yet, they're pruning trees at snail pace...
I think must wait till an entirely family gets wiped out by a falling tree branch before they get up off their asses and do something CONCRETE!
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Commission to study seatbelt ? What a joke.
They should commission me to study how children behaves in minibuses.
And I will tell them they install belts alone is useless because children don't want to get strapped in !!!
They don't need reconfig or install uselss seatbelts.. they NEED an assistant to jagar the children !!
Then they need to figure out which type of vehicle is structurally safer instead of those dingy tin cans used to transport children!!!
If they pass a law that makes it legal requirement for ALL children to be strapped in before they are road worthy, then no school transport will ever make it to the roads.
Children behaves differently at every stage in life. The seat belt is not a catch all to the problem.
Dumb scholars running the country. PFFT !!!
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Commission to study seatbelt ? What a joke.
They should commission me to study how children behaves in minibuses.
And I will tell them they install belts alone is useless because children don't want to get strapped in !!!
They don't need reconfig or install uselss seatbelts.. they NEED an assistant to jagar the children !!
Then they need to figure out which type of vehicle is structurally safer instead of those dingy tin cans used to transport children!!!
If they pass a law that makes it legal requirement for ALL children to be strapped in before they are road worthy, then no school transport will ever make it to the roads.
Children behaves differently at every stage in life. The seat belt is not a catch all to the problem.
Dumb scholars running the country. PFFT !!!
... must COMMISSION to 'study' seatbelts after all that has happened!?!?!?... well, study this...
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Originally posted by HyperFocal:
... must COMMISSION to 'study' seatbelts after all that has happened!?!?!?... well, study this...
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..............\.............\...Uhhhhh... after intense study... I conclude it is a picture of Mount Everest.
Now gimme my one million lollar !
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Hyperfocal,
Regarding pruning roadside trees, I believe National Park Board has done quite a good job.In fact,I notice the trees are overtrimmed or unnecessary pruned.
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i recommend to get senior Minister of State for transport's kids to use school minibus to go to school/return home.
if he is comfortable with his kids life on the line, i would shut up also.
do not drag on other people's children safety concerns just because you own is not involve
assholes
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Originally posted by PRP:
Hyperfocal,
Regarding pruning roadside trees, I believe National Park Board has done quite a good job.In fact,I notice the trees are overtrimmed or unnecessary pruned.
... whether the National Park Board or whoever have done a great job or not, doesn't matter.... It will however truly matter, when and who the next falling branch falls onto do we know how good a job anyone has done with regards to keeping trees hazard-free ...
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Hyperforcal,
U see there are so many roadside trees in this country,how often do u see a leaf or a small branch on our roads.Amazing or not?
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it's true safety must be given first priority...
but how many parents are willing to place their words into action by paying the higher costs of having a fully seat-belted mini-bus...
sadly, unless singaporeans can change their mentality of placing money over everything, these kind of stuff will keep happening...
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When a lamp post fell & killed a boy in a HDB estate, my town council fortified many of the lamp posts in my neighborhood with steel posts & concrete -- looked rather ugly.It seems lamp posts in HDB estate were not properly designed and built!How can it be?But i suppose at least my town council takes human lives seriously.
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Pigsticker,
The govt should take the lead.
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There are many ppl who are killed and wounded on the road.So to the LTA officers,I think these are just mere statistical numbers .
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A few of the bollards were uprooted when a car crashed into a bus stop at Penang Lane.LTA doesn't want to build the bollards too strong because it is afraid motorists might be killed when their vehicles crash onto them.Does LTA thinks the lives of motorists are more precious than pedestrains?
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It is not wrong for LTA to consider the safety of motorists when it designed the bollards,but the strength of the bollards shouldn't be too weak.