Obama Claims Nomination; First Black to Lead a Major Party
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Senator Barack Obama claimed the Democratic presidential nomination on Tuesday night, prevailing through an epic battle with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in a primary campaign that inspired millions of voters from every corner of America to demand change in Washington.
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It will take a barack obama if the opposition is to beat the PAP in singapore...
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Wishing HIM the best of luck...... Hope to see a 'Black' US President by end of the year.
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Is he connected to Osama or he is just a normal mama?
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Is he connected to Osama or he is just a normal mama?
That is not funny at all come...you still believe that he is connected to Osama just because of the NAME???Did you get brainwashed by the republicans?
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Originally posted by ray245:
That is not funny at all come...you still believe that he is connected to Osama just because of the NAME???Did you get brainwashed by the republicans?
Oh no, i support demorcrat ok, me just wary about it ok, Can't i ask some question here!!!?????
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Not much feeling.......no opinion....
At first I like that guy......young....seem sincere...
Then when I watch more, he is just a typical politician.....not as noble or unique like the first impression.....
The things which made me 'lose feelings' are numerous.....
First, selling protectionism, anti-NAFTA.
Free trade is actually good for them, but he stoop low and pretend otherwise.
Second, making appearances and speeches at Jewish groups. 'Pandering' is the word he often use, but he himself indulge in.
Third, cant remember......alot....
Worst impression I got is when he dumped his pastor to save his own skin.
I just think they are all the same.....the thing 'special' about Obama is that he is a better salesman. It's all the business of selling. He can talk, like a good salesman, can pretend, can make shows. If he is a salesman, he can sell u insurance or floor mops
, that is his type.Actually McCain might be better in terms of personality. He is much older, has conviction, has maturity. That guy Obama is too showy.
But problem is McCain party has neo-cons, which is bad for the world.
I just hope under Obama presidency, neo-cons will fall out of favour. They should take the back seat, or just disappear altogether. Be gone.
But Obama personally, no comment......he will continue the Bush style, I confirm....., he will lie and lie and spin and spin.....typical politician...all the same...
Meat Pao.
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guess we will have more hip hop....yeah!
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The victory belongs to the American people - those ordinary folks in the cities, in the rural areas, in the mountains, along the coastal areas, and around the lakes.
They should be proud to have rejected any efforts by any one group to shut out anyone from participating in the electoral system.
They should be proud that their political parties have reached a mature level of politics that create rules that are fair and equally applicable to every political nominee willing to put their own stakes in fair competition to win the nomination.
This is politics in the First World, where the print and broadcast media is not in the grip of the Government, nor fettered by threats, nor succumb to political pressures from anyone or any institution.
Full and unbias information is available freely to every member of the American public, and they are exposed to the full spectrum of diverse public opinion and debate on the politics of the day through every known public media.
The competition between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has seen them making very sharp and critical comments towards the politics and agenda that each has for the American people.
They did not resort to name callings, ridicule, nor character assassination - and neither have they tolerated any of their subordinates using any of these afore-mentioned disrespectful ways of treating their competing public image.
The entire period in which the Democratic Primary was held, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama had maintained civil and respectful attitude towards each other.
LKY and his Political Party has alot to learn if he believe that Singapore is a member of the First World Community - as his political methods is not far from resembling that of President Mugabe of Zimbabwe.
If Barack Obama should become the first 'Black' or Afro-American President of the USA, MM LKY will have some explaning to do for his views concerning the IQ of Black People -
"The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more ... the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow." - Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
Not much feeling.......no opinion....
At first I like that guy......young....seem sincere...
Then when I watch more, he is just a typical politician.....not as noble or unique like the first impression.....
The things which made me 'lose feelings' are numerous.....
First, selling protectionism, anti-NAFTA.
Free trade is actually good for them, but he stoop low and pretend otherwise.
Second, making appearances and speeches at Jewish groups. 'Pandering' is the word he often use, but he himself indulge in.
Third, cant remember......alot....
Worst impression I got is when he dumped his pastor to save his own skin.
I just think they are all the same.....the thing 'special' about Obama is that he is a better salesman. It's all the business of selling. He can talk, like a good salesman, can pretend, can make shows. If he is a salesman, he can sell u insurance or floor mops
, that is his type.Actually McCain might be better in terms of personality. He is much older, has conviction, has maturity. That guy Obama is too showy.
But problem is McCain party has neo-cons, which is bad for the world.
I just hope under Obama presidency, neo-cons will fall out of favour. They should take the back seat, or just disappear altogether. Be gone.
But Obama personally, no comment......he will continue the Bush style, I confirm....., he will lie and lie and spin and spin.....typical politician...all the same...
Meat Pao.
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i think we are seeing (positive) political evolution all over the world and singapore is still stuck `in her political rut' after 40+ years.
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If obama become US next president. American blacks will be first class citizen of US and the whites will be second class.
US will become United State of Africa.
All the world black people will becoming first class people
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i think it is a good change.
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Originally posted by sundaytimes:
If obama become US next president. American blacks will be first class citizen of US and the whites will be second class.
US will become United State of Africa.
All the world black people will becoming first class people
Uh huh.. and soon enough you will have a nutcase put a bullet through Bama's head like what they did to Kennedy.
Pop Quiz: What is Kennedy's ethnic background ?
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Originally posted by Meat Pao:
Not much feeling.......no opinion....
At first I like that guy......young....seem sincere...
Then when I watch more, he is just a typical politician.....not as noble or unique like the first impression.....
The things which made me 'lose feelings' are numerous.....
First, selling protectionism, anti-NAFTA.
Free trade is actually good for them, but he stoop low and pretend otherwise.
Second, making appearances and speeches at Jewish groups. 'Pandering' is the word he often use, but he himself indulge in.
Third, cant remember......alot....
Worst impression I got is when he dumped his pastor to save his own skin.
I just think they are all the same.....the thing 'special' about Obama is that he is a better salesman. It's all the business of selling. He can talk, like a good salesman, can pretend, can make shows. If he is a salesman, he can sell u insurance or floor mops
, that is his type.Actually McCain might be better in terms of personality. He is much older, has conviction, has maturity. That guy Obama is too showy.
But problem is McCain party has neo-cons, which is bad for the world.
I just hope under Obama presidency, neo-cons will fall out of favour. They should take the back seat, or just disappear altogether. Be gone.
But Obama personally, no comment......he will continue the Bush style, I confirm....., he will lie and lie and spin and spin.....typical politician...all the same...
Meat Pao.
Come on, if he don't play politics at all, he won't even stand a single chance.
And for his pastors, do you think he should stick up for his pastor after what the pastor have said?
He tried his best to tone down the issue by delivering a very fine speech, yet his pastors is sabotaging obama's slot at the presidency for his own personal agenda.
Instead of saying how bad obama is at distancing himself, why don't you say that how bad is his pastor willingly to sabotage a friend just for the sake for his personal agenda.
Atobe, stop praising the US like it is perfect. Did you even bother to see how bias the news reporting can be?
You have fox news, CNN at times and etc, which all have their own political agenda.
And the nomination is civil? Where the hell have you been? Did you even notice what is Hiliary's campaign has done to obama?
And a government linked media does not mean it will be a bad thing...look at BBC, another government funded media...
"The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more ... the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow." - Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997
What? On average it is true. Black usually score lower in IQ test, but there are exceptions. Also, just because asians USUALLY score higher does not mean there isn't a dumb asian...
And blacks not being able to do well is mainly because of their enviroment. Blacks americans are usually living in places where they do not have a better enviroment to study as compared to most white americans.
But this does not mean we should offer any less support for black americans in their educational efforts. In fact, more focus should be aimed at peope who did not have a good enviroment to study.
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Originally posted by sundaytimes:
If obama become US next president. American blacks will be first class citizen of US and the whites will be second class.
US will become United State of Africa.
All the world black people will becoming first class people
which generation r u from?
obama has its own charisma and a great orator. he was able to attract new voters, and swing voters. He ran a strong and good campaign. He wins not because of the color of his skin.
Afro american have been in main stream US politics for a long time. Obama gets elected bring it to a new height. Afro american can tilt vote but not win overall majority.
It is only people who subject themselve to race will bring the subject of race into this election.
The Hilary campaign fall apart after super tuesday, she fired her campaign manager half way. She keep changing her theme.
Money ran out. Her strategy was flaws with many wrong assumption. Her husband did not help by giving several controvsal speech to piss off voters. She herself said stupid things on the campaign trail like sniper fire, Bob Kennedy, oil tax exemption. Supper delegates shine away poltically incorrect statement. She properly make 8 out of 10 mistake.
So at the end of the day,there is really really no such thing as a Rightful Place in History. Or maybe the rightful place in History is where she is now.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
which generation r u from?
obama has its own charisma and a great orator. he was able to attract new voters, and swing voters. He ran a strong and good campaign. He wins not because of the color of his skin.
Afro american have been in main stream US politics for a long time. Obama gets elected bring it to a new height. Afro american can tilt vote but not win overall majority.
It is only people who subject themselve to race will bring the subject of race into this election.
The Hilary campaign fall apart after super tuesday, she fired her campaign manager half way. She keep changing her theme.
Money ran out. Her strategy was flaws with many wrong assumption. Her husband did not help by giving several controvsal speech to piss off voters. She herself said stupid things on the campaign trail like sniper fire, Bob Kennedy, oil tax exemption. Supper delegates shine away poltically incorrect statement. She properly make 8 out of 10 mistake.
So at the end of the day,there is really really no such thing as a Rightful Place in History. Or maybe the rightful place in History is where she is now.
Obama is half caucasian. His mother later married an Indonesian, so Obama's half sister is half Indonesian half caucasian.
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What I'm interested to know is: what will Hillary do now?
What are the odds that she'll decide to be Obama's deputy (and potentially be the VP)?
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Is he connected to Osama or he is just a normal mama?
even the name, obama and osama is different. one christian and the other muslim. the differences goes on....
for you to even ask the question......
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Originally posted by sundaytimes:
If obama become US next president. American blacks will be first class citizen of US and the whites will be second class.
US will become United State of Africa.
All the world black people will becoming first class people
unbelievably irresponsible statement.
obama's is `color blind', his mother being a white not whithstanding.
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Yes he did have to take those political actions. Thats why I think he is a typical politician, just the same, not really unique. What is the difference with other politicians who change course depending on which way the wind blows?
I did watch the US campaign. At first I have good impression of this guy.......young, energetic, and being black, there is a sense of freshness and change, and being the underdog it is easy to sympathize with him. I wanted him to win and rooted for him.
But after a while cracks begin to show, and it seems he got corrupted by the campaign whirlwind. He sells his principles out. Or maybe there was no principle, it was just a show only, like a good salesman conning you.
For instance,
Didnt he at first want to 'unify' , avoid 'politics of destruction' so on etc, sounds so good, but by middle of process when Hillary was fighting hard and almost catching up, he himself participated in this 'politics of destruction'. He did negative attacks.
Another one, anti-NAFTA. This is very significant. This episode paints him as a total politician.
What is the difference between him and Hilarry on this anti-NAFTA issue? None. Both are pretending and lying, they know free trade is good, but they become turncoat anti-NAFTA and racing with each other trying to slam NAFTA. They said all sorts of lies, saying wanting to re-negotiate, when renegotiation is not posible, the treaty is done deal.
Third, the most cringe worthy moment....he dumped his pastor to save his own skin.
Actually he didnt want to admit he attend a militant black church which sometimes slam white people, it is uncomfortable for him. For me, it is understandable black churches sometimes slam white people, thats not such a shocking thing. But Obama is put in an awkward position, embarassing position, and he had to pretend.
First speech abt it, sounds so noble, it is a 'craft' or a PR trick to mask his true past in that church and deflect attention. That is still ok. But the worst is when he strongly dumped his pastor later. I got very bad vibe from this. From a guy-next-door image, sincere-guy image, he totally don the mantle of an ultimate politician, quick and adept, and willing to stab his own pastor when occasion calls for it.
In life, certain things just cannot be done. He reminds me of a son who goes into business, then back-stab his own father to further his business interest.
What is the difference with this? Ok little bit diff. He is a man who goes into politics, then back-stab his own 20-year pastor to further his political interest.
Ok another one.......initially I was impressed with his intellect, in the debates he is very good, especially on foreign policy.
Now he is back-pedalling, and has to repeatedly pander to Jewish groups. Endlessly and ceaselessly. You can see the plot already, can see the scenario.
So now, and in future if he becomes president, he will just continue to 'prove' his jewish-friendliness, and all those early talks about Iran and Middle East, about new direction in foreign policy, will just be moot, empty talk. He will be taken hostage and wont dare to take any action which might offend those groups. A very typical pandering politician who has to sell himself.
I have more to rant, but now I am hungry and I must go for dinner....see u all later....
PS: my fav is Ron PaulMeat Pao.
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Obama next president? End times coming ah?
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Personally I prefer Hillary Clinton. I dun know why.
It is unprecedent for a black to be the President of USA. But guess since times has changed, everyone is equal.
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Wow, I heard that Oba is a muslim.
Wow, good thing the Americans love the muslim.
I also support Oba, since another Clinton would not seem like Change.
But I also like Hillary as she presents herself very well and appears intelligent and capable too.
Given the 2 finalists for the new Americano Presidente,
its obvious who will win :
1. Mc Cain
2. Oba
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just another lobbyist for the democrats...rather than Hillary who makes a shitty democrat...confirm will triumph over McCain who can garner support from the USAF at the most..wondering who their running mates will be..