A best Present for a child
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Democracy is the best present a parent could ever give to his children. Before having a children, I was quite indifferent to the suffering of human rights activists and opposition supporters like Chee Soon Juan and his team-mates, who spend almost all their entire lives fighting a totalitarian hybrid regime. Few times I would see JBJ and Chee Soon Juan in the MRT or in the public selling their autobiography books to the public. I just merely look at them and didn't walk up to them to offer my support or shake their hands or to talk to them, knowning by doing that I will get into trouble.
But after all these years, I realized what my country has become, a country of increase income disparity, a society that becomes an increasing money worshipping population, people are becoming more selfish and divided and the injustice of the elites having a reign over the peasant populace. Furthermore, welfare benefits are not reaching out to the people needing it at the same time a country running huge budget surpluses and have poured investments into countless overseas foreign corporations.
For me, the trends my country is heading is rather unhealthy for any children to grow up. Frankly, who would want your children to grow up in a country where the worship of power and money take precedance over principles and values? Who want any children to grow up in a society where is purpose is to serve the elites and are merely treated as digits in society. Who wants any children to live in a society where freedom of speech and expression are curbed when principles and values cannot be fully expressed and uncensorely curtailed? Who wants a children to live in a society where one is not concerned about the welfare of his/her fellow citizens? Certainly not mine! Where have our society's values and principles gone to?
One could argue escape as the best solution for my children, but unfortunately, if we see a problem but we use an escape as a solution, we will carry the same problem to anywhere to go to. The problems remained. It is the devil within ourselves we have to fight.
Looking at the adorable facial expression of any children, will give you hope for the future, that you want your children to grow up in a country where the principles and values have a strong foundation and has a place for them in future.
By actively involved in the causes of Chee Soon Juan and his teams, one may be jailed and separated from loved ones, its it then worth it? I would say yes, because I think it is the best present any parent could give to his children. Why? just because of your children future is at stake.
A Concerned Singaporean Parent -
... indeed.... Its time to do what we can with that one vote on our hands...
I certaintly do not want my child to serve ns without knowing why he should be serving, we singaporeans are slowly losing our sense of identity thanks to the dilution of local population, maybe in my child time, 50% of pop will be foreigners, how to justify him serving NS for 2 years, for whom is he protecting, money? Our child should be free. -
I believe that a lot of people supported the incumbent party and its policies at one time or another in the past.
However, it seems like more and more of these supporters are starting to become disillusioned by the direction the country is heading, be it their own livelihood or the future of their children.
The perception by the general public, whether true or otherwise, is that the people at the top seem more interested in making money, than actually focusing on the general welfare of Singaporeans.
In another thread, people are already asking how to give up their citizenship and take up PRship instead because of perceived benefits over the Singaporean citizen.
Which country you know has its citizens asking such questions?
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i tell you what.. be active, be aware..
mostly, be aware..
and know that democracy is spelt with a "c" near the end, not "z"
CSJ is an attention whore.. he doesn't give a shit about you, your child, the people, the citizens, our country, or democracy...
he's just a fucktard who destroyed the opposition with his bullshit, attention whoring, backstabbing fiasco of a party which he stole from CST...
and don't forget that..
your enemy's enemy may not be your friend..
and before the rest of the fucktards who infest SC start calling me a MIW whatever, i have no love for politicians as a whole.. i do not give my loyalty to mere political parties.. my only loyalty is to my country.. and it pains me to see people falling for charlatans like CSJ... as much as it pains me to see the MIW squeeze people for all they are worth...
be aware.. get in the know.. live your life... make politics and politicians a mere afterthought.. they don't deserve your attention.. and if they screw up, throw them out with your vote.. and if they do well, give them your vote.. no matter if it is whatever the hell party or MIW or WP or whatever..
now.. THAT, my friend, is democracy... the power of the people.. not whatever the hell that attention whore CSJ says... he prostituted his party and politically sodomised the one who brought him up politically... you think he'll even hesitate to throw you, those whom he doesn't even know, to the dogs?
again, i reiterate: your enemy's enemy may not be your friend...
the best gift you can give to your child is to have a mind of his own and the courage to make the right decisions.. THAT is what democracy is dependent on.. not whatever airy-fairy things you've sprouted
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i tell you what.. be active, be aware..
mostly, be aware..
and know that democracy is spelt with a "c" near the end, not "z"
CSJ is an attention whore.. he doesn't give a shit about you, your child, the people, the citizens, our country, or democracy...
he's just a fucktard who destroyed the opposition with his bullshit, attention whoring, backstabbing fiasco of a party which he stole from CST...
and don't forget that..
your enemy's enemy may not be your friend..
and before the rest of the fucktards who infest SC start calling me a MIW whatever, i have no love for politicians as a whole.. i do not give my loyalty to mere political parties.. my only loyalty is to my country.. and it pains me to see people falling for charlatans like CSJ... as much as it pains me to see the MIW squeeze people for all they are worth...
be aware.. get in the know.. live your life... make politics and politicians a mere afterthought.. they don't deserve your attention.. and if they screw up, throw them out with your vote.. and if they do well, give them your vote.. no matter if it is whatever the hell party or MIW or WP or whatever..
now.. THAT, my friend, is democracy... the power of the people.. not whatever the hell that attention whore CSJ says... he prostituted his party and politically sodomised the one who brought him up politically... you think he'll even hesitate to throw you, those whom he doesn't even know, to the dogs?
again, i reiterate: your enemy's enemy may not be your friend...
the best gift you can give to your child is to have a mind of his own and the courage to make the right decisions.. THAT is what democracy is dependent on.. not whatever airy-fairy things you've sprouted
well said! :D
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look where singapore stands on the democracy ladder.. shameful! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i tell you what.. be active, be aware..
mostly, be aware..
and know that democracy is spelt with a "c" near the end, not "z"
CSJ is an attention whore.. he doesn't give a shit about you, your child, the people, the citizens, our country, or democracy...
he's just a fucktard who destroyed the opposition with his bullshit, attention whoring, backstabbing fiasco of a party which he stole from CST...
and don't forget that..
your enemy's enemy may not be your friend..
and before the rest of the fucktards who infest SC start calling me a MIW whatever, i have no love for politicians as a whole.. i do not give my loyalty to mere political parties.. my only loyalty is to my country.. and it pains me to see people falling for charlatans like CSJ... as much as it pains me to see the MIW squeeze people for all they are worth...
be aware.. get in the know.. live your life... make politics and politicians a mere afterthought.. they don't deserve your attention.. and if they screw up, throw them out with your vote.. and if they do well, give them your vote.. no matter if it is whatever the hell party or MIW or WP or whatever..
now.. THAT, my friend, is democracy... the power of the people.. not whatever the hell that attention whore CSJ says... he prostituted his party and politically sodomised the one who brought him up politically... you think he'll even hesitate to throw you, those whom he doesn't even know, to the dogs?
again, i reiterate: your enemy's enemy may not be your friend...
the best gift you can give to your child is to have a mind of his own and the courage to make the right decisions.. THAT is what democracy is dependent on.. not whatever airy-fairy things you've sprouted
If this is not another dishonest post from the Bear in desecrating a Member from the Alternative Parties by back-stabbing him without giving that person any course to defend himself.
Over the last one year, if you have the gall to press home your insulting views towards CSJ, why will you not hit the headlines by doing it in his face at a Public Forum ?
If deriding CSJ as an ''attention whore'' - does it make you any better as a cute and cuddly harmless Bear ?
Or should the truth be said that you are no more then a dishonest lying political whore - acting as a fifth columnist - lurking between the threads to insert your sly remarks that suggest it is useless to be anti-establishment, and at the same time making sly disparages at the image of the Alternative Parties.
Against your own advise, you will occassionally inject some hypocritical dosage of anti-establishment remarks that you hope will keep your image as a political neutral.
In robbertteh's thread - “Political control stratagem to depoliticize the people”. you made a sly effort at attempting to deflate robbertteh's piece to arouse the political interest of participants in this SC - which under most circumstances anyone will see it as innocuous act from an inocuous commentator, until and unless one is concious to the trend in your consistent mischief.
Originally posted by the Bear:you're doing a great job trying to politicise everything, causing fatigue in the people.. pissing people off... showing that between the MIW and the opposition is like choosing the Iron Maiden and the Torture Rack..
so people tune out..
the same way as CSJ is doing damned well pissing people off and making them not want to have anything to do with politics
now.. think about it..
With your analogy of choice described as ''between the MIW and the opposition is like choosing the Iron Maiden and the Torture Rack'' - have you considered your position as a ''Third Instrument of Discouragement'' to be selected from the vast array of tools in the Ancient Chinese Torture Chamber ?Do we need your 'Wet Blankets' around to stifle the new ambers, when you are only capable of wetting yourself in bed at the sight of the ambers ?
now... think about this.
What is it with you with your continuous effort - done with such consistent diligence - to perpetuate a lie about CSJ, CST and the SDP - even when you have been debunked on at least two previous occassions in 2007 ?
Did CSJ backstabbed CST and hijacked the SDP from CST ?
Was CST acting as a mentor to CSJ - and groomed CSJ - or was CSJ recruited by SDP Chairman Ling How Doong in 1991 as a result of being pushed by the general dissatisfaction from the SDP Execo with CST's lack lustre performance - in being reluctant and ineffective - in Parliament since he won his first election in 1984 ?
“History of Singapore Democratic Party”.
The SDP was founded in 1980 by Mr Chiam See Tong, a British-educated lawyer who had contested several elections as an independent candidate since the mid 1970s. The party had originally wanted to contest the Anson constituency by-election in 1981 but for the sake of opposition unity, gave way to the Worker's Party candidate J.B. Jeyaretnam. It paid off, as the opposition won their first seat in parliament for the first time since Singapore's independence in 1965. The party's first success came in the 1984 General Elections, when their former secretary general Chiam See Tong won the Potong Pasir's seat. Chiam's election victory came about despite some negative campaigning by the People's Action Party, which had at one time urged voters not to vote for Chiam because his O-level results were poorer than those of the PAP candidate, Mr Mah Bow Tan.[citation needed]
In the 1988 general elections, following the dismissal of J.B. Jeyaretnam from parliament in 1986 after a financial conviction, the party managed to defend its sole and only opposition seat. As a result, Chiam See Tong became the opposition leader in parliament. A moderate, Chiam claimed that he was not opposing for the sake of opposing. He also said: "But if they (the government) do the wrong things which are not good for Singapore, then we will oppose fearlessly" (Business Times: Dec. 15, 1980)
In the 1991 general elections, in its biggest success ever, probably as a result of the by-election strategy employed since then in which opposition parties would agree to contest less than half of the seats in parliament, allowing the PAP to be returned to power on nomination day thus reassuring Singaporeans of a PAP government, the SDP won 3 seats at Potong Pasir SMC, Bukit Gombak SMC and Nee Soon Central SMC. The victory at Nee Soon Central was very close as the winning candidate Cheo Chai Chen only won by 168 votes against the PAP incumbent Ng Pock Too. Apart from Chiam See Tong and Cheo, the other winner was party chairman Ling How Doong.
Together with one seat won by the Workers' Party of Singapore in the same election, the opposition won a total of 4 seats. Though this was still very small compared to the 77 seats won by the PAP, the results were considered as a grave setback to the ruling party and the then prime minister Goh Chok Tong, who was only in his first year in office. It was also the best ever opposition performance since 1963, when the Barisan Sosialis Party managed to win 13 out of 51 seats.
Buoyed by the results in 1991, the SDP decided to contest the 1992 Marine Parade Group Representation Constituency by-election. The GRC was held by none other than the then premier; Goh Chok Tong. Nonetheless, the SDP decided to put up a good fight by recruiting Dr Chee Soon Juan, a university lecturer, for the election. The PAP won 72% of the votes and the SDP, led by Chee, won 25% and other smaller parties won the rest of the vote.
However the rise of the SDP was not to be, as differences soon emerged between Chiam and Chee. In 1993, three months after joining the SDP, Chee was accused of using his research funds to send his wife’s PhD dissertation to the United States. Dr Chee had asserted, and still does, that this was not the case as his wife was an employee in the same department at National University of Singapore at that time and was working with him, sharing and collaborating in their research, and that the funds were legitimately used. The National University of Singapore decided to sack Chee.[3]
Chee claimed this was a political vendetta plotted by the ruling party as his supervisor Mr S.R. Vasoo was a PAP MP.[citation needed] The PAP had, however, denied the accusation and insisted that the offence was real. Chiam wanted to censure Chee but the former was not supported by the Central Executive Committee and they voted to oust him as general secretary and to replace him with Chee. Supporters of Chiam left the party and formed the Singapore People's Party in 1994, which Chiam took over from Sin Kek Tong as the secretary-general in the 1997 general election.
The SDP decided to strip Chiam See Tong's membership after the latter had gone to the Singapore Press Club and denounced the SDP and the Central Executive Committee.[4] Had he lost his membership, under the law, he would also have to lose his seat in parliament. The courts ruled that his dismissal was unfair and that he should be allowed to remain as a member of the SDP.
In the 1992 GRC By-Election at Marine Parade - CSJ led the SDP in increasing the popular vote to 27.8% - {the PAP GRC took 72.9%} - when in the 1991 General Election the SDP had only received 22.8%, and the PAP took 77.2%}.
This startling result from Goh Chok Tong's constituency was seen as a potential threat if a University Lecturer can destabilise the constituency of a PAP Stalwart - and if more lecturers or similar professionals should follow CSJ in taking a political plunge.
This 1992 By-Election shock started the wheels in motion to cut CSJ down to size, with his NUS Faculty Head - Dr Vassoo, {who is a PAP elite and whom CSJ decline an invitation from Vassoo to join the PAP} - digging up a one year old transport claim for taxi fare reimbursement to CSJ's field trip as part of his NUS research work.
Dr Vassoo had already approved the reimbursement one year earlier, but after the 1992 By-election - took issue with the amount that CSJ had claimed in his travel voucher, with the disputed amount being less then $2.00 - between the amount paid and the amount that Dr Vassoo claimed should have been the correct fare.
One will have to question the brilliance in Dr Vassoo retracting his approval one year later to dispute a fare difference of less than $2.00 - which in all circumstances will have to be different fares considering the taxi route taken, the condition of the traffic at different times of the day, or different days of the week.
Still the charges of dishonesty was pushed, and Dr Vassoo sued CSJ for libel - from his statements that suggest Vassoo was dishonest in making the charges at CSJ.
The second charge of dishonesty levelled at CSJ was also from an reimbursement already paid some time prior to the 1992 By-Election, when CSJ claimed for postage costs in mailing his dissertation to an approved US University that had also included research papers done by his wife - which CSJ claimed is partially contributing to his total work - and was approved by the receiving US university as this was common practise at that tertiary level of research work.
The dispute was over Dr Vassoo claim that he was not advised of this matter by CSJ, and resulted in the charges of dishonesty being raised for spending NUS funds to mail his wife dissertation for assessment overseas.
As a neutral observer, one need only ask 'how did Dr Vassoo come to know of the contents after the 1992 By-Election, when the parcel had already left Singapore, and CSJ had already been reimbursed for the postage costs ?
The rest is history as printed in the Wikipedia, and Chiam See Tong has all the rights to make amendments if he has any dispute with the recorded events.
With the picture straightened, one will need to ask what your agenda as the Bear - in consistently maulng CSJ dead body, as well as sabotaging the efforts of everyone by pouring cold water on any efforts to widen the political experience in this SC ?
Have you contributed anything of substance when you have been observed to be devoid of any thoughts, except to sneakily shoot your silent torpedoes and lay your contact mines to disparage others who have more courage than you in speaking their minds openly.
A whore has at least done a more honest service, what have you done except to become a political carpet beggar.
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The best present a parent can give to a child is FREEDOM.
Freedom from hunger
Freedom from illiteracy
Freedom from disease
Freedom from poverty
Freedom from disasters
Freedom from discrimination
These are the foundations of which 'democracy' is built upon for a civilised society. Freedom of speech is but only one component of democracy.
In Singapore, we should be glad we already have most of such freedoms, and although freedom of speech seemed absent, one only need to look here and realize we even have that too, only perhaps to a degree of, i daresay 70%. The other restricted 30% is only to ensure such freedom comes with a responsibility on accountability of speech within our multi-racial society.
Thus for one to 'desire' democracy, it behooves him to understand what it truly means and entails, for all freedoms and not just focus on one, as a particular opposition political party chief, with no proven track records of governing a country or even have any integrity to speak of, tried to fool and divide the nation.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
The best present a parent can give to a child is FREEDOM.
Freedom from hunger
Freedom from illiteracy
Freedom from disease
Freedom from poverty
Freedom from disasters
Freedom from discrimination
These are the foundations of which 'democracy' is built upon for a civilised society. Freedom of speech is but only one component of democracy.
In Singapore, we should be glad we already have most of such freedoms, and although freedom of speech seemed absent, one only need to look here and realize we even have that too, only perhaps to a degree of, i daresay 70%. The other restricted 30% is only to ensure such freedom comes with a responsibility on accountability of speech within our multi-racial society.
Thus for one to 'desire' democracy, it behooves him to understand what it truly means and entails, for all freedoms and not just focus on one, as a particular opposition political party chief, with no proven track records of governing a country or even have any integrity to speak of, tried to fool and divide the nation.
I think TS is a concerned about his chid but Spore is still good in providing basic healthcare n infastructure to its citizen. The present generation of locals is diffrentesp many of them thought of migrating to other developed countries.
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Hopefully there will be political reform after Lee Kuan Yew draws his last breath.
Lee Kuan Yew is like a fish bone stuck in my throat.
Don't get rid of it, cannot feel comfortable.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
The best present a parent can give to a child is FREEDOM.
Freedom from hunger
Freedom from illiteracy
Freedom from disease
Freedom from poverty
Freedom from disasters
Freedom from discrimination
These are the foundations of which 'democracy' is built upon for a civilised society. Freedom of speech is but only one component of democracy.
In Singapore, we should be glad we already have most of such freedoms, and although freedom of speech seemed absent, one only need to look here and realize we even have that too, only perhaps to a degree of, i daresay 70%. The other restricted 30% is only to ensure such freedom comes with a responsibility on accountability of speech within our multi-racial society.
Thus for one to 'desire' democracy, it behooves him to understand what it truly means and entails, for all freedoms and not just focus on one, as a particular opposition political party chief, with no proven track records of governing a country or even have any integrity to speak of, tried to fool and divide the nation.
The best present a parent can give to a child is FREEDOM.
Unrestricted freedom to accomplish his dreams...
He should be able to speak his mind without needing to turn his head back to check before speaking.As a civil servant he is able to vote for opposition without fear of losing the rice bowl.
Do we have such freedom? -
Bear, you like to say that Chee Soon Juan ousted Chiam See Tong from SDP, so what is your view on this:
Look Ms Chua, I know you are trying your darnest to bring down that man, but do you really believe that thinking people will buy into this old refrain any longer? For one, Mr Chiam was not ousted from SDP by Dr Chee. He voluntarily engineered his own exit, contrary to what the state media would have us believe.
http://www.sgpolitics.net/?p=243
- Blurred by spin Said,
“For one, Mr Chiam was not ousted from SDP by Dr Chee. He voluntarily engineered his own exit, contrary to what the state media would have us believe.” Ng E-Jay, you are absolutely correct. If one reads the 1994 Volume 1 of the Singapore Law Report at page 278, the following sequence of events were established:
(1) On 17/5/1993, at a Cenral Executive Committee (CEC) meeting of the SDP, Chiam tried to introduce a motion to censure Chee SJ for his hunger stike. NOBODY (not even his 2 favoured party members (I’m not referring to CSJ) brought into SDP by him) supported him. Not being a team player, he wrote out a resignation note on the spot. (During the trial Chiam famously declared - and this was reported in the Straits Times - that he was like a General; when he gives an order everyone must charge!)
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(2) For the next few weeks, several attempts were made by CEC members to ask Chiam to withdraw his resignation. He refused and instead started making demands. Meanwhile, the CEC tried to keep a tight lid on Chiam’s resignation. -
(3) On 18/6/1993, when the local media started to sniff closer to the door, the CEC had no choice but to announce Chiam’s resignation and even then tried to put a positive spin to the event by praising Chiam for his contribution to opposition politics. -
(4) On 16/7/1993, Chiam did the unthinkable, and, to me as an outside observer, an unforgivable thing: he went to the very core of the PAP propaganda machine, namely, the Times House (then at Kim Seng Road), and gave a talk denouncing his fellow CEC members.
(5) Events were then set in motion when the SDP CEC asked Chiam to appear before a disciplinary committee. Chiam was found guilty and expelled from SDP.Look, if you join a club with rules and you start bad-mouthing the leadership and your own members, the leaders really have no choice but to haul you up for discipline isn’t it? Although the judge found the disciplinary process against Chiam ineptly conducted - and there are some who do not quite agree with the reasoning of the judge - nonetheless it was Chiam who brought it upon himself. After the judgment, Chiam was reinstated as SDP member, but he chose to resign thereafter.
So you see, the above sequence of events have been morphed, by a sleight of hand, assisted no doubt by the likes of Chua Lee Hoong, into Chee Soon Juan (the ingrate brought in by Chiam) having ousted Chiam See Tong.
- Blurred by spin Said,
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Originally posted by whiskers:
The best present a parent can give to a child is FREEDOM.
Unrestricted freedom to accomplish his dreams...
He should be able to speak his mind without needing to turn his head back to check before speaking.As a civil servant he is able to vote for opposition without fear of losing the rice bowl.
Do we have such freedom?I do believe that you best ask around if civil servants are indeed restricted in their votes. This is a serious charge, for our precious votes are sacred and secret.
As far as i know, all of my civil servant acquaintances had voted freely without fear or favour, irregardless of ruling or opposition party.
Speak his mind, yes. But his mind best be rational, and backed up with facts and not mere speculations. I am sure you too wouldn't enjoy talking to fools.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Hopefully there will be political reform after Lee Kuan Yew draws his last breath.
Lee Kuan Yew is like a fish bone stuck in my throat.
Don't get rid of it, cannot feel comfortable.
haha.. poh ah pak ah.
haha. i dunno why, but damn funny la i'm surprised the men in white never come and kidnap you yet.
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haha. i dunno why, but damn funny la i'm surprised the men in white never come and kidnap you yet.
Sad, isn't it? Our fucked up political environment.
Singapore how to progress with this type of repressive society?
How to mature as a people?
As a society?
A detainee remembers
http://www.singapore-window.org/tfhmemo.htm
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As long as PAP exists and remains in power, I will oppose it.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Bear, you like to say that Chee Soon Juan ousted Chiam See Tong from SDP, so what is your view on this:
Thanks Poh for a very rare piece of gem that no one knew existed.It is amazing that CSJ can be labelled a cheat for a disputable taxi fare claim of $2 for a journey that can cost differently according to traffic conditions and route taken.
It is all the more amazing that CSJ is labelled a liar for accusing his accuser of not telling the truth - when the accuser could not even explain his own knowledge that seems to appear after the event - {how did the accuser know what were the contents in a parcel that has already left Singapore, when he had orginally claimed no knowledge of ? }.
Coming from the mouths of elite talents - {schemeing the fulfillment of their million dollar dream wages that they dependent on as crutches to prevent corruption in their ranks} - it is ironical that they will claim CSJ to be a liar and a cheat for a disputable taxi fare difference of $2; and parcel postage cost of below $50.
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Don't thank me, I'm just a propagandist that's all.
Blurred by spin was the one who brought this information to light.
http://www.sgpolitics.net/?p=243
I only propagate.
State propaganda media's lies must be exposed and defeated.
We cannot allow them to brainwash people any longer.
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you are always free to change to a more favourable society.
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Wow Orian Nebula has surprised me. In today's society there is someone who still cares about values and principles. Everybody's after money today.
Even religions have become mere cosmetics of no substance.
How about migrating out of the country? Sweden looks sweet!
even israel is better ranked than Singapore.
Damn my country Indonesia is at a low 65th. Shame on us too! It's not the democracy that's flawed it's the people LOL.
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to answer your thread
A best Present for a child is a piece of coal
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Originally posted by Atobe:
If this is not another dishonest post from the Bear in desecrating a Member from the Alternative Parties by back-stabbing him without giving that person any course to defend himself.
Over the last one year, if you have the gall to press home your insulting views towards CSJ, why will you not hit the headlines by doing it in his face at a Public Forum ?
If deriding CSJ as an ''attention whore'' - does it make you any better as a cute and cuddly harmless Bear ?
Or should the truth be said that you are no more then a dishonest lying political whore - acting as a fifth columnist - lurking between the threads to insert your sly remarks that suggest it is useless to be anti-establishment, and at the same time making sly disparages at the image of the Alternative Parties.
Against your own advise, you will occassionally inject some hypocritical dosage of anti-establishment remarks that you hope will keep your image as a political neutral.
In robbertteh's thread - “Political control stratagem to depoliticize the people”. you made a sly effort at attempting to deflate robbertteh's piece to arouse the political interest of participants in this SC - which under most circumstances anyone will see it as innocuous act from an inocuous commentator, until and unless one is concious to the trend in your consistent mischief.
With your analogy of choice described as ''between the MIW and the opposition is like choosing the Iron Maiden and the Torture Rack'' - have you considered your position as a ''Third Instrument of Discouragement'' to be selected from the vast array of tools in the Ancient Chinese Torture Chamber ?Do we need your 'Wet Blankets' around to stifle the new ambers, when you are only capable of wetting yourself in bed at the sight of the ambers ?
now... think about this.
What is it with you with your continuous effort - done with such consistent diligence - to perpetuate a lie about CSJ, CST and the SDP - even when you have been debunked on at least two previous occassions in 2007 ?
Did CSJ backstabbed CST and hijacked the SDP from CST ?
Was CST acting as a mentor to CSJ - and groomed CSJ - or was CSJ recruited by SDP Chairman Ling How Doong in 1991 as a result of being pushed by the general dissatisfaction from the SDP Execo with CST's lack lustre performance - in being reluctant and ineffective - in Parliament since he won his first election in 1984 ?
In the 1992 GRC By-Election at Marine Parade - CSJ led the SDP in increasing the popular vote to 27.8% - {the PAP GRC took 72.9%} - when in the 1991 General Election the SDP had only received 22.8%, and the PAP took 77.2%}.
This startling result from Goh Chok Tong's constituency was seen as a potential threat if a University Lecturer can destabilise the constituency of a PAP Stalwart - and if more lecturers or similar professionals should follow CSJ in taking a political plunge.
This 1992 By-Election shock started the wheels in motion to cut CSJ down to size, with his NUS Faculty Head - Dr Vassoo, {who is a PAP elite and whom CSJ decline an invitation from Vassoo to join the PAP} - digging up a one year old transport claim for taxi fare reimbursement to CSJ's field trip as part of his NUS research work.
Dr Vassoo had already approved the reimbursement one year earlier, but after the 1992 By-election - took issue with the amount that CSJ had claimed in his travel voucher, with the disputed amount being less then $2.00 - between the amount paid and the amount that Dr Vassoo claimed should have been the correct fare.
One will have to question the brilliance in Dr Vassoo retracting his approval one year later to dispute a fare difference of less than $2.00 - which in all circumstances will have to be different fares considering the taxi route taken, the condition of the traffic at different times of the day, or different days of the week.
Still the charges of dishonesty was pushed, and Dr Vassoo sued CSJ for libel - from his statements that suggest Vassoo was dishonest in making the charges at CSJ.
The second charge of dishonesty levelled at CSJ was also from an reimbursement already paid some time prior to the 1992 By-Election, when CSJ claimed for postage costs in mailing his dissertation to an approved US University that had also included research papers done by his wife - which CSJ claimed is partially contributing to his total work - and was approved by the receiving US university as this was common practise at that tertiary level of research work.
The dispute was over Dr Vassoo claim that he was not advised of this matter by CSJ, and resulted in the charges of dishonesty being raised for spending NUS funds to mail his wife dissertation for assessment overseas.
As a neutral observer, one need only ask 'how did Dr Vassoo come to know of the contents after the 1992 By-Election, when the parcel had already left Singapore, and CSJ had already been reimbursed for the postage costs ?
The rest is history as printed in the Wikipedia, and Chiam See Tong has all the rights to make amendments if he has any dispute with the recorded events.
With the picture straightened, one will need to ask what your agenda as the Bear - in consistently maulng CSJ dead body, as well as sabotaging the efforts of everyone by pouring cold water on any efforts to widen the political experience in this SC ?
Have you contributed anything of substance when you have been observed to be devoid of any thoughts, except to sneakily shoot your silent torpedoes and lay your contact mines to disparage others who have more courage than you in speaking their minds openly.
A whore has at least done a more honest service, what have you done except to become a political carpet beggar.
Is grabbing attention going to give you any weapon to fight? Or at least grabbing attention by deliberately going against the law?
If going against the law is what you do to give me another option, I would rather not have it at all. What constructive plans has he laid? He fights, for the wrong reasons with the worst ways.
If I'm a parent, the best gift would be a stable country with nothing to fear and the worst complaint would be that the exams are too tough, and the opposition is incumbent.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Is grabbing attention going to give you any weapon to fight? Or at least grabbing attention by deliberately going against the law?
If going against the law is what you do to give me another option, I would rather not have it at all. What constructive plans has he laid? He fights, for the wrong reasons with the worst ways.
If I'm a parent, the best gift would be a stable country with nothing to fear and the worst complaint would be that the exams are too tough, and the opposition is incumbent.
When all the eyes, ears, and minds of the audience are shielded, diverted, and pounded by a single dominating 'sycophantic' sound that prevent all other sight, sound and ideas from competing for attention - will you not also attempt to compete and grab those attention for your own cause ?
When the rules, regulations and laws are unfair and unreasonable, and designed to prevent anyone from challenging the new status quo - will you not go against such laws that even contradict the Constitution itself ?
Have you read his plans in the books that he has written, or the issues that he has expressed in his blog ?
Have you queried and challenged him on his ideas at his PUBLIC forums ?
If you have not - how would you know that he is fighting for the wrong reasons ?
If you are unaware of the present political situation that restricts the Politicians from the Alternative Parties in their ability to effectively exercise their political rights to serve Singaporeans - how would you know that his ways are the worst ways ?
If you are a parent, you should pray that your Children will have inner souls of a Human when they become Parents.
Try reading the following quote from Dr Toh Chin Chye - retired Chairman of the PAP
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“I would say the generation of the ‘50s and ‘60s took the plunge into politics without ever calculating the costs of the risk and the benefits to be gained. They were driven by ideology.
Today’s generation has no culture and averse to taking political risk.
Really, an interest in politics is very necessary for the future.
But I cannot blame the present generations, because they see the heavy-handed response by the government to dissenting views, even though they know that these matters involve their daily lives.
So the result is that we have produced a younger generation who are meek and therefore very calculating.They are less independent-thinking and lack in initiative.
It does not bode well for the emergence of future leaders in politics and business.
Robots and computers can be programmed or if you like, can be trained.
But the trouble, of course, is that computers lack soul and what we need in Singapore is soul.
Because it is soul that makes society.”
Do you wish your children to grow up as economic digits, to slave for the economy which returns little social, economic, or political benefits for a Life time of labor ?
Or would you want your children to grow up in an environment where their contribution to society and country is one of unrestricted creativity - from minds that are given the space to question every aspects of Living that affect and govern their future ?
Would you not wish for your children to be in an environment that has a resilience and tolerance for them to seek difficult answers that will allow them to be responsible for their own actions - and not having their lives being dictated by the political thinking from only one source ?
In another forty years into the future, your children will have to compete even harder in a globalised world.
Will they be able to fit themselve into a globalised economy that will require their maximum creativity, initiative, congnitive skills, analytical thinking - when they are required to modify their demands, to conform, to be less individualistic, to accept ''advise'' and ''instructions'' without questions ?
Can their minds grow to be enquiring minds, that are familiar and tolerant to a variety of views and philosophies, or will they grow up to be timid and without imagination nor initiative, nor drive to face challenges ?
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“I would say the generation of the ‘50s and ‘60s took the plunge into politics without ever calculating the costs of the risk and the benefits to be gained. They were driven by ideology.
Today’s generation has no culture and averse to taking political risk.
Really, an interest in politics is very necessary for the future.
But I cannot blame the present generations, because they see the heavy-handed response by the government to dissenting views, even though they know that these matters involve their daily lives.
So the result is that we have produced a younger generation who are meek and therefore very calculating.They are less independent-thinking and lack in initiative.
It does not bode well for the emergence of future leaders in politics and business.
Robots and computers can be programmed or if you like, can be trained.
But the trouble, of course, is that computers lack soul and what we need in Singapore is soul.
Because it is soul that makes society.”
I agree with Toh Chin Chye's words.
I see a society where a culture has been weakened, people has been demoralised, depoliticised, turned naive and ignorant, a society where modern democratic institutions has been wiped out.
Due to these factors and more, the only goal left in life is materialism.
The outlook changed.
Materialism cannot ultimately satisfy man.
It can be the means to a goal, it cannot be the ends.
I know who is responsible for this.
That is why I won't rest until the head is dead.
Nothing pleases me more than to see Lee Kuan Yew die.
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Lee Kuan Yew.
I won't rest until you die.