Originally posted by SBS7484P:lots of clones here...
why the speaker corner forum ALWAYS got clones
how to clone? and how to find out it is a clone?
Hello hunger strikes do allow glucose water so that people don't die. It's standard and yet LKY mocks him for doing it.
I mean, hunger strikes are meant to show that you are willing to experience a certain amount of pain to get something, but not to the extent that you die or experience any sort of long-lasting ill-effects to one's health.
If he dies he won't live to argue another day and the PAP would just laugh their way home, wouldn't they?
lots of clones here...
why the speaker corner forum ALWAYS got clones
Cos some people always get pwned and try to come back or create more "support" for themselves. lionnoisy is a great example.
Unfortunately it is not very likely this forum is under the control of the opposition, it's more likely an indication of how much more work our government to do in engaging those who are politically aware.
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I have seen quite a few noobs comming in to this forum, innocent like, making inquires, asking questions, but soon morph into a full fledge anti-goverment troll. The transition from uncertainity (in posts) to hard core triade is less than six months. I suspect a seasoned troll masquerading under a new nick, to emulate conversion.
Ah! the game of deception.
I suspect that many of the forumers here are actually undercover agents of SDP. What they are doing is to use this faceless open forum to garner support for Chee's propaganda against the ruling parties.
So far, I think have succeeded is distorting the minds of many forummers, especially the boys and girls. However I am not sure if this will neccessary contribute to any success in the next election because I believe many of SDP blind followers here might not be old enough to vote.
So I guess thats the reason why some SDP's undercover agents is asking Singapore elections department to lower the voting age huh?
About time a thread like this opened up. lol.. where are the usual anti PAP ppls ?
dangerous to openly admit and ally urself to the cause of SDP ? or anything anti - PAP ? ![]()
Like that how to bring about change ? Sitting on ass wont get u no where.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:About time a thread like this opened up. lol.. where are the usual anti PAP ppls ?
dangerous to openly admit and ally urself to the cause of SDP ? or anything anti - PAP ?
Like that how to bring about change ? Sitting on ass wont get u no where.
The SDP undercover agents in this forum will not be so stupid to participate in such a thread because they are afraid of exposing their ulterior and dishonorable motives, which might even get them into trouble with the law.
However as a selfish political party, I am sure they will have no qualms about letting their blinded followers to defend their actions.
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Seriously, i don't even think that SDP has the manpower to do such a thing. They already have so much at hand. Just my two cents.
Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:I suspect that many of the forumers here are actually undercover agents of SDP. What they are doing is to use this faceless open forum to garner support for Chee's propaganda against the ruling parties.
So far, I think have succeeded is distorting the minds of many forummers, especially the boys and girls. However I am not sure if this will neccessary contribute to any success in the next election because I believe many of SDP blind followers here might not be old enough to vote.
So I guess thats the reason why some SDP's undercover agents is asking Singapore elections department to lower the voting age huh?
lol?
the sdp has much better things to do than this. =.=
Originally posted by £Îª€Ú°:
would you mind explaining why you are allowing people to spread lies about the government in this forum when the guideline clearly states the following: -2. All Statements here Must be backed with facts and not baseless allegations.
3. Any topics that eventually ends up as a flame war will be closed after 3 warnings. A 24 hour grace period will be given after the last warning to allow users to give reasons on why the thread should remain open.Plus it does seems that you do have some political interest against Singapore government and thats the reason why you allow thread like "LKY when are you going to die?" to exisit.
If those guideline stated are no longer valid, I think it might be better if you remove it instead of making yourself look like the Joker of the year, just like Dr. Chee.
You have to tell that to the pro-government supporters too, not just anti-government supporters. One quoted/overestimated/overinflated the statistics all wrong to support PAP - his statistics differed TOO MUCH from MOH's official statistics. Then he goes on an insult rampage when I pointed out his mistakes.
Lies against the government? Doubt that most people are lying - they are just expressing an opinion here. An opinion is neither right or wrong since it is based on their experience/perspective unless they delve into something set , like statistics. If the government wishes to dispel all speculations, maybe they should consider more transparency and openess. That would help their case more than people assuming or guessing.
Let your fellow Singaporeans have some outlet to vent their feelings/thoughts without fear of persecution .May not be right all the time but opinion is still theirs and I wouldn't call them lies.
Originally posted by £Îª€Ú°:
The benefits for using a public forum like this is that you are faceless, you are not accountable for what you said and seldom do anybody question what you said as long as you are criticizing the government.Dont under estimate the power of this forum, this is a very effective mind corruptor and it is free.
It is also useless to sound like a PAP MP. It just doesn't help at all.
Going to the real forum? Did that and got asked for my IC in front of an entire audience just because some MP got pissed off about my line of questioning of which he can't answer several years ago. What does that show? That if you are open about what you think of them , you have to be prepared to fork out your IC number.
The internet is known to misguide people. Give your fellow Singaporeans some credit for intelligence to sift the facts from the nonsense.
The benefits for using a public forum like this is that you are faceless
This Gazelle is the faceless one. I dare to say, a number of forumers know my name and have seen me before.
And I also dare to say, my posts are mostly objective.
Originally posted by crimsontactics:Seriously, i don't even think that SDP has the manpower to do such a thing. They already have so much at hand. Just my two cents.
If they can find time to organise concernt outside Queenstown Remand Center, playing to an empty crowd, I am sure they will be able to find time "grooming" SDP members in the internet.
Please dont under estimate the effectiveness of such forum, if you have a young, weak and born lazy, you will eventually start to believe what the majority say and of course the majority in this forum are usually the few minority working restlessly and brainlessly behind the scene.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:About time a thread like this opened up. lol.. where are the usual anti PAP ppls ?
dangerous to openly admit and ally urself to the cause of SDP ? or anything anti - PAP ?
Like that how to bring about change ? Sitting on ass wont get u no where.
where are the usual anti PAP ppls ?
They rather not feed the trolls
Don't you know £Ä¬€Ú° is someone paid by the PAP to appear and disrupt threads in Speaker's Corner in Sgforums?
We can already see it clearly in this post
Originally posted by £Îª€Ú°:
would you mind explaining why you are allowing people to spread lies about the government in this forum when the guideline clearly states the following: -2. All Statements here Must be backed with facts and not baseless allegations.
3. Any topics that eventually ends up as a flame war will be closed after 3 warnings. A 24 hour grace period will be given after the last warning to allow users to give reasons on why the thread should remain open.Plus it does seems that you do have some political interest against Singapore government and thats the reason why you allow thread like "LKY when are you going to die?" to exisit.
If those guideline stated are no longer valid, I think it might be better if you remove it instead of making yourself look like the Joker of the year, just like Dr. Chee.
£Ä¬€Ú° is
1) making statements not backed with facts and are baseless allegations
2) creating clones to make threads end up in flame wars
just so that he can make threads get closed, which of course, he has failed, due to the observance of our moderators
Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
If they can find time to organise concernt outside Queenstown Remand Center, playing to an empty crowd, I am sure they will be able to find time "grooming" SDP members in the internet.Please dont under estimate the effectiveness of such forum, if you have a young, weak and born lazy, you will eventually start to believe what the majority say and of course the majority in this forum are usually the few minority working restlessly and brainlessly behind the scene.
I do believe that you just insulted some of your fellow Singaporeans , if not all of them. And worse , I do believe that you insulted the education system.
If they start believing the internet instead of weighing the facts from internal and external sources, then our dear Singaporean education system have failed miserably in teaching them how to think.
Then my question to you is why should we pay the education minister a multi million dollar salary for running a system full of flaws?
Originally posted by fymk:I do believe that you just insulted some of your fellow Singaporeans , if not all of them. And worse , I do believe that you insulted the education system.
If they start believing the internet instead of weighing the facts from internal and external sources, then our dear Singaporean education system have failed miserably in teaching them how to think.
Then my question to you is why should we pay the education minister a multi million dollar salary for running a system full of flaws?
Seems like TS himself does not even have sufficient faith in the national education system
Originally posted by eagle:Seems like TS himself does not even have sufficient faith in the national education system
It is actually hilarious. The TS has to understand that in this world , there are always disagreements and agreements about everything , including politics . If there are absolute consensus that the government is great , Singapore is a country full of obedient sheep- that is abit worrying .
Originally posted by fymk:It is actually hilarious. The TS has to understand that in this world , there are always disagreements and agreements about everything , including politics . If there are absolute consensus that the government is great , Singapore is a country full of obedient sheep- that is abit worrying .
It's sch holidays... Can't blame these kids... Blame the government for giving them such long holidays... such that they cannot do even better in Os and As and are so bored that they have to create clones to post rubbish in SgForums
Apparently TS thinks our kids can't think critically.... is he admitting in a badward sort of way that our educational system leaves mich to be desired?
Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
If they can find time to organise concernt outside Queenstown Remand Center, playing to an empty crowd, I am sure they will be able to find time "grooming" SDP members in the internet.Please dont under estimate the effectiveness of such forum, if you have a young, weak and born lazy, you will eventually start to believe what the majority say and of course the majority in this forum are usually the few minority working restlessly and brainlessly behind the scene.
Well since that is your point, i think i can assume that you are the few minority working restlessly and brainlessly behind the scene? While we common forum folks are the young, weak and born lazy?
Come on you can do better than that.
Originally posted by crimsontactics:Well since that is your point, i think i can assume that you are the few minority working restlessly and brainlessly behind the scene? While we common forum folks are the young, weak and born lazy?
Come on you can do better than that.
working restlessly and brainlessly behind the scene
Puppet or dog lor...
lackey ![]()
I suspect that Poh Ah Pak and Atobe are both SDP undercover agents. What do you think?
For people here speaking objectively about the PAP are regarded by people working as undercover agents for SDP. What kind of logic is this? So all who speak well, praise PAP are also undercover agents of PAP. What a joke.