Bye Bye Malaysia water by 2011--Part 2
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long long wall of texttttttt
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Originally posted by Jacksngthepilot:
long long wall of texttttttt
no choice, all old uncles very talkative one lah, all like great wall of china, no ending, but as long as they like, let them be. That is why i never ban them. We must create some space for old peoples to express themselves -
I will miss Malaysia water...
,Singapore water abit kiam kiam one
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Originally posted by angel7030:
I will miss Malaysia water...
,Singapore water abit kiam kiam one
har singapore water got kiam kiam one?ur water from east coast beach one har
mine not kiam kiam one
mine from bedok reservoir one leh
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
har singapore water got kiam kiam one?ur water from east coast beach one har
mine not kiam kiam one
mine from bedok reservoir one leh
that day i saw a foreign worker urine at that reservoir leh, me see already run... -
Originally posted by angel7030:
that day i saw a foreign worker urine at that reservoir leh, me see already run...
o damm itlike that i better go for body check up
later tainted dun know with wat sia
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No worries....Assuming nothing is wrong with the treatment plant, the water is definitely drinkable.
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Originally posted by Mostwanted5125:
No worries....Assuming nothing is wrong with the treatment plant, the water is definitely drinkable.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Assume??? that will be assing u and meWell, What can we as peasent do? Just pray pray nothing goes wrong lo.
Btw the safety factor is quite high. It was proven b4 by some of my engine research fren.Hopefully nothing really goes wrong!
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Ask your parents and grand parents
They have been drinking local extracted water for few decades lah!!
SG has been extracting water on this tiny island since 1965.
The catchment area grew from a dot to half of the main island.
It will cover two third of the main island,after completion of
Puggnol and Serganoon Reservoirs by damming the 2 rivers.
Marina Reservior is only a mid- way reservoir or holding reservoir
Due to its small capacity,it just collect water from the 100 km2
catchment which is the most urbanized area among all catchments.
The water then will be pumped into other bigger impounding reservoirs
under Marina Reservoir Circulation Scheme.
PUB -
Overview of Singapore---water biz
FYI.California,ie LA etc have been drinking recycling water for decades.
USA lawyers will not miss this golden opportunity if the water
is not suitable for drinking!!
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Originally posted by Mostwanted5125:
Well, What can we as peasent do? Just pray pray nothing goes wrong lo.
Btw the safety factor is quite high. It was proven b4 by some of my engine research fren.Hopefully nothing really goes wrong!
ya, hopefully, but in term of water contamination, it does mean it will take effect immediately, it may take years or decades to realise that there is water contamination in recycling that link to peoples suffering from a same of kind of illness leading to premature death.By then, how to sue them??
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same goes to smoking cigarette, US tabacco co. was sued by individuals who prove that smoking lead to lung cancer and other illness...very soon, H/Phones may come into the picture.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
ya, hopefully, but in term of water contamination, it does mean it will take effect immediately, it may take years or decades to realise that there is water contamination in recycling that link to peoples suffering from a same of kind of illness leading to premature death.By then, how to sue them??
I am stumped. Sorry, I am not sure how to go about sueing them.
But I remember a case where a town in the USA where cancer and deformation among kids were high. A mother does her own research and confirm her suspicions that the water they drank was contaminated.
If u wish, u can do ur own research, but u need to fork out money of ur own. There are private chem labs that will do analysis for u, but money is needed of course.
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SE Queensland,(including Brisbane) water storge reached
20% of Total Capacity in Jan 2008
They are still arguing if they need to build recycling water plants!!
Water level dropped from 60% in early 2004 to only 20%
in Jan 2008!!That is about 10% point per year.
i must admit that in any 6 months,water level can increase
by 20 % point .But what if no rains fall in few more years....
I dunt think this is a good way to run a state.
No citizen shall face the threat of water shortage.
This threat also drive away potential investors.
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http://www.seqwater.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=DamOperationsandMaintenance
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Can the vast catchment areas near Brisbane
compsensate for lower rainfall and drought?
All together,the catchment is 7400 km sq for
SE QLD,including Brisbane.
Rainfall about 1175 mm.Population about 2.6 million for SE QLD.
Compared with Singapore,Local catchment is currently
about 350 km sq(half of main island) and rainfall 2200 mm,
providing half of water demand for 4.8 million population.
That is 1.30 million m3 x 50%=650,000 m3 a day can be extracted
from SG local catchment!!
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The dams are near Brisbane--
catchment area of the dam is 5554 square kilometres.,
hold back a further 1.45 million megalitres as well as its normal storage capacity of 1.16 million megalitres.
catchment area of the dam is 1503 square kilometres.
The storage capacity of the dam at the top of the Spillway Gates is 904,000 megalitres. The present storage capacity reserved for water supply services is 380,000 megalitres,
North Pine Dam--348 square kilometre catchment area with an average annual rainfall of 1175mm. The dam stores 215,000 megalitres of water
Is it safe?
In this Platinum 4 and MP4 era,is it funnny a learned OZ professor
and Australians still doubt the safety of recycling water.
The millions of lawyers in USA will not miss this opportunity to
sue local,state and Federal gavaman in cyclying water!!
Califorians have been drinking recycling water for few decades!!
Nats' 'kooky voodoo' water science
Ms Bligh attacked critics of the plan in parliament as National Health and Medical Research Council water quality advisory committee head Don Bursill cautioned that recycled water posed additional risks to supplies.
Professor Bursill said the risk would be acceptably low if Queensland followed national recycled water guidelines, as the state had indicated it would, but it was preferable to rely on conventional sources.
Recycled sewage and industrial waste will constitute between 10per cent and 25per cent of the water supply in southeast Queensland from early next year.
Ms Bligh and Deputy Premier Paul Lucas ridiculed the Opposition's policy not to proceed with the water plan unless storages in the region fell below 40per cent capacity. They presently average just over 40per cent.
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Singapore's Poor
No poverty in S'pore? Think again.
Singapore's poor emerge as delicate political issue
Asian Wall Street Journal
January 30, 2007
SINGAPORE
By YAROSLAV TROFIMOV
DURING rush hour in Singapore's ultramodern subway system, wrinkled old ladies squat on the underpass floor with handfuls of small tissue packets that they sell at one Singapore dollar, or 65 US cents, apiece.
These are the poor of Singapore, left behind by the boom that has transformed this tropical island of 4.5 million people into a regional business, finance and technology hub. Poverty here isn't nearly as desperate as in its Asian neighbors, or even many Western societies. But it has become an increasingly sensitive political issue, prompting new tax and social policies that the government is expected to unveil in the annual budget presentation Feb 15.
According to official statistics, at least 40% of Singapore's households saw their real incomes decrease from 2000-2005 -- while the overall economy posted some of the world's highest growth rates, surging by 7.7% last year.
"The question is, who is all this growth for?" says Manu Bhaskaran, an adjunct fellow at Singapore's Institute of Policy Studies and a partner at the Centennial Group, an advisory firm. "Shouldn't the government be aiming for lower growth, but better distribution? "
The government's strategy so far is to pursue a balancing act of generating more revenue for helping the poor without scaring off the global investors who have long been attracted by the city-state's low-tax regime. "The dual objective is to ensure that the Singaporean economy continues to remain competitive, and to strengthen the inclusiveness of Singaporean society," says Lim Swee Say, secretary-general of the National Trades Union Congress and a government minister.
Most of Singapore's poor are in their 50s or older, and many are onetime manufacturing workers who lost their jobs to cheaper competitors in China, Vietnam or India. Many lack education and English-language skills that are needed to prosper in expanding sectors such as services and finance.
It is only in recent months that senior officials began to speak out on the problem of structural poverty, recognizing the potential perils for a multiracial, multireligious society such as Singapore's. "It is essential for us to tilt the balance in favor of lower-income Singaporeans, because globalization is going to strain our social compact," Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said in a speech last fall.
Singapore's People's Action Party, founded by Mr Lee's father Lee Kuan Yew -- who is still a senior government member with the title of Minister Mentor -- has controlled the island since independence in 1965, winning nearly every seat in parliamentary elections. The country's mixed population of Chinese, Malays and Indians has accepted decades of the PAP's often authoritarian rule in exchange for phenomenal economic growth that has transformed this former British trading outpost into one of the world's most prosperous states.
While providing subsidized housing and health care, Singapore's government has long resisted calls for European-style unemployment benefits for the poor, describing welfare as a "dirty word" and rejecting the idea of a minimum wage. Instead, the government has come up with the concept of "workfare" -- a large-scale program to top off the incomes of those Singaporeans who accept low-paid work. Details of the program will likely be given in the budget presentation.
"We can't stop the income gap from widening because the wages are determined by the global competition for knowledge workers, and by the excessive supply of unskilled workers," says Mr. Lim, the minister and union leader. "But what we're trying to do is to make sure that the widening income gap doesn't necessarily translate into a widening social gap."
Most developed economies fund such social programs by redistributing wealth through progressive taxation: the top-bracket federal income tax rate is 35% in the US, and at least 40% in most of Western Europe. But Singapore is ideologically opposed to this model: the island-state has been steadily slashing its top income-tax rate, from 55% at independence in 1965 to 28% in 2000, to 20% today. Making up for the shortfall in revenue, Singapore established a general sales tax, currently at 5%.
It is the sales tax that the government is planning to tap again to pay for the "workfare" initiative. According to Mr Lee, with the new budget the sales tax is likely to rise to 7% -- a measure that, economists calculate, will generate some S$1.5 billion of extra government revenue.
The plan is far from popular. In the two months since Mr Lee in November first mentioned a likely sales-tax rise, the proposal elicited unusually vocal criticism from Singapore's corporate world and opposition leaders alike. The influential Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry complained the sales-tax increase is "likely to have an immediate and detrimental effect on local spending," undermining Singapore's long-term competitiveness.
Sylvia Lim, leader of the Singapore Workers' Party and an opposition Parliament member, also pointed out that the poor -- the ostensible beneficiaries of the proposal -- would be hurt the most. "We need to strengthen our safety nets through some redistributive policies," she asserted, adding that consumption taxes, such as the sales tax, "are generally regressive and likely to compound the underclass problem."
While the government usually ignores the minuscule opposition in this tightly regulated country, the business community's pleas found a receptive audience. Aware that corporate taxes are even lower in rival business centers such as Hong Kong and Ireland, Singapore signaled it would sweeten the pill for businesses: To compensate for the higher sales tax, the corporate tax rate, currently 20%, would be shaved by at least one percentage point.
"This is a tough and competitive world," Minister Mentor Lee told Singaporean journalists as he explained the planned corporate-tax cut. "People don't come here because they like Singapore -- they come because the returns are better."
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dear lionnoisy
singapore got water poor medical care
what's the point?
even world-class nuh cannot keep their toliet in ICU clean!
is this acceptable?
clean water, but unclean hospitals:
"Public toilets at NUH in shocking state
BETWEEN Feb 3 and 11, I had to go to National University Hospital (NUH) daily because a family member was hospitalised. The medical care was excellent and the nurses professional and kind. However, the standard of hygiene in the public toilets left much to be desired. To put it bluntly, they were disgusting and, given our reputation for cleanliness and efficiency, quite disgraceful.
I had to use the men's toilets on the ground floor and the shared individual cubicles on the sixth floor regularly. The floors were inevitably sopping with used paper towels strewn about. The toilet seats were broken, unhinged, wet, stained or all of the above. Needless to say, the stench was unbearable.
What I found most distressing was the sorry state of the shared cubicle outside the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) on the second floor. Metres from what is supposed to be a sterile environment, the tap above the sink in the cubicle was not even working. There was no sterilised mat at the entrance of the ICU, which meant anyone who had just stepped out of the toilet would carry whatever creepy crawlies their shoes picked up from the wet floor into the ICU.
Excuses of constant human traffic and insufficient cleaning staff cut no ice with me. The standard of hygiene in a hospital is supposed to be - pardon the pun - whiter than white. If NUH cannot rely on toilet users to be civilised, it should increase the number of times the toilets are cleaned every day. "
Even toliet outside ICU dunt work! what if one day your love one in ICU and gets infected becos germs from toliet comes into ICU in so-call world class hospital?
want yr world class hospital toliet to look like this?
dunt say i anyhow say this or that good or bad. news is out there go see
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65 PEOPLE FALL ILL IN SINGAPORE DUE TO BAD WATER SUPPLY!
WATER CONTAMINATION AT BUKIT TIMAH PLAZA
Of nearly 1000 buildings inspected by the Public Utilities Board over the past month, 49 were found to have sanitary pipes above water tanks. The PUB said the management corporations of the 49 affected buildings have been asked to redirect the sanitary pipes or relocate the water tanks.
Bukit Timah Plaza's management corporation is facing legal action for gross negligence in allowing sewage to contaminate the building's water supply system. The filthy water has made at least 65 people fall ill since last week. The Public Utilities Board (PUB) and the Ministry of Environment (ENV) said on Thursday 23 Aug 2000 that their investigations showed that the management corporation had "grossly neglected its duty" to maintain the complex's water supply and internal sewage-piping systems.
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The in house production of pure water help SG a lot.
I read a petrolum giant can produce few thousand m3 water a day.
Now POWER SERYA can produce 10,000 cubic meter a day!!
9,000 m3 is used by its plants,while 1000 m3 can be sold to water barges.
Daily comsumption of SG is about 1,350,000 m3!!
Strait Times 30.01.2008,Energy firm scors a first with $20m water plant
by SHOBANA KESAVA
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http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_201530.html
WATER PLUS POWER SAVINGS: Dr Amy Khor tours PowerSeraya's desalination plant on Jurong Island. The plant consumes 30 per cent less electricity than conventional desalination plants. It is the first in the world to use a 16-inch diameter membrane for reverse osmosis. -- ST PHOTO: LIM WUI LIANG
POWERSERAYA now has its own desalination plant, making it the first combined heat, water and power supplier in South-east Asia.
The energy company officially opened the $20 million plant at its Jurong Island facility yesterday.
Managing director Neil McGregor said the plant consumes 30 per cent less electricity than conventional desalination plants.
When the plant runs at full capacity, about 10,000 cubic m of water, enough to fill four Olympic-size pools, can be produced per day.
Ninety per cent of the water will be used to clean floors, flush toilets and the like. The rest is clean enough to drink.
The drinking water has not been licensed for sale by regulators, but the firm may get the rights to sell it to water barges.--EOQ
VIDEO
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16 inch diameter membrane for reverse osmosis use one third less energy
than 8 inch to produce water!!Higher yield!!
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http://www.straitstimes.com/Video+News/Singapore/STIVodcast_3508.html
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I'm sure lionnoisy's looking forward to 2011 - he'll finally be able to drink all the piss he wants to flush down the shit he eats.
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