1,000 Singaporeans gave up their citizenship every year
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Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
You are free to call them beggars if thats how you are being taught to do. On the same note, people living on welfare can also be classified as freeloader of society. Havent you read stories about people on welfare spending their money on drugs and alcohol? How do you explain that?
What are you getting at really ? What has freeloaders gota do with Mid's mom ?
You think she's a freeloader ?
Beggars are people who go around asking for help , so they will not starve.
Isn't this essentially what the gahmen is expecting people who need help to do ?
They coulda give them more pride. Exercise some well thoughtout policy to protect the people so they need not have to resort to asking for help from the gahmen. Isn't that what good gahmen do ?
Dispensing mercy is not a good gahmen policy .
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Originally posted by Dimitri The Wanderer:
Jojo i have to agree with you on the point you stated it's not a sane place to live beyond 50. I mean i hear from my relatives and family that people at 80+ are still working day & night. It's really a pretty much tough life out in Singapore.
I heard many BRITISH in UK are living under the bridge, begging in the tube stations, diggin into trash cans for food and cigrarette.
Could it be Singaporeans are healthier and living longer than those in UK and USA?
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Originally posted by redDUST:
personally, i am disheartened with the changes here in the last 3 years. i have always maintained to my better half that i would like to remain here. we are doing ok. however, she is quite adamant of leaving due to the `stifling' education system our kids are going thru'. so, we decided to move out this nov after the school term ends.
i will stay on for another few months to fulfill personal obligations but unfortunately the `push' factors is overwhelming. will things be better on the other side? who knows but i guess it is up to us to make the best of it.
so, 4 more bites the dust.
why leave? sg is a good place to live in. stay on!
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Britain is a first world democracy... the people choose their leaders freely and fairly...
...there are people that are lazy (or maybe they prefer to live under bridges) and there are people under the rule of despots...
..nobody in their right mind can deny that Singapore is under the rule of despots persecuting dissidents, opposition and
taking as much of the people's money as possible and putting as much of public money into their own pockets as possible... -
=> Jojo, just ignore this cockblock who talks without thinking, all i can see he is all out to anger forumers, sooner or later everyone gonna thrash his every post. For all i can say as i have ignored this inadequately uneducated bastard (that was a nice poke), his just a clone of someone you may have angered before so his out for a backlash.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
What are you getting at really ? What has freeloaders gota do with Mid's mom ?
You think she's a freeloader ?
Beggars are people who go around asking for help , so they will not starve.
Isn't this essentially what the gahmen is expecting people who need help to do ?
They coulda give them more pride. Exercise some well thoughtout policy to protect the people so they need not have to resort to asking for help from the gahmen. Isn't that what good gahmen do ?
Dispensing mercy is not a good gahmen policy .
You call people going to meet the people session as beggars, I am sure I can call the people living on dole as freeloaders right?Yes, when I see the long queue of able americans signing up for dole on TV, I will call that PRIDE of the country.
I am not sure what cocaine have you been smoking , but what you are saying is definitely not making any sense to me.
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i am going to be the 1001 to give up liao.
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Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
You call people going to meet the people session as beggars, I am sure I can call the people living on dole as freeloaders right?Yes, when I see the long queue of able americans signing up for dole on TV, I will call that PRIDE of the country.
I am not sure what cocaine have you been smoking , but what you are saying is definitely not making any sense to me.
Well good for you dude.
Stay, so your good gahmen may take care of you .. from cradle to your grave.
I am very happy for you.
If the gahmen is doing things right.. people WON'T need to go for meet the people session.
Yah.. perhaps to go there to pay their respects.. that's all.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Well good for you dude.
Stay, so your good gahmen may take care of you .. from cradle to your grave.
I am very happy for you.
If the gahmen is doing things right.. people WON'T need to go for meet the people session.
Yah.. perhaps to go there to pay their respects.. that's all.
I am not complaining, so i dont see why someone who claim to be happily living in the land of opportunites should be coming here to tell Singaporeans what to do.You want to focus your arguement about the dirt in Singapore, make sure you are ready to defend the trash in america.
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Originally posted by Dimitri The Wanderer:
=> Jojo, just ignore this cockblock who talks without thinking, all i can see he is all out to anger forumers, sooner or later everyone gonna thrash his every post. For all i can say as i have ignored this inadequately uneducated bastard (that was a nice poke), his just a clone of someone you may have angered before so his out for a backlash.
You got to understand that during a debate session, you dont score any points by talking to your teammate. That to me is a sign of retreat, and I really hope that you mean what you said and please dont reply my post with nonsense and liesNo offenese dude, when you are being caught as a liar, your credibility is gone. Same for the real world too.
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Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
I am not complaining, so i dont see why someone who claim to be happily living in the land of opportunites should be come here to tell Singaporeans what to do.You want to forus your arguement about the dirt in Singapore, make sure you are ready to defend the trash in america.
Dude.. did you not read through this thread ?
I want to come home to SG.
But I also do not want to come home to a land more foreign than my current one. Gettit ?
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Dude.. did you not read through this thread ?
I want to come home to SG.
But I also do not want to come home to a land more foreign than my current one. Gettit ?
If you want to come back to singapore, you should come back with a clear mind not a mind that is infested with lies and propaganda. -
Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
If you want to come back to singapore, you should come back with a clear mind not a mind that is infested with lies and propaganda.And what made you so sure you're not blinded by lies and propaganda, yourself ?
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
And what made you so sure you're not blinded by lies and propaganda, yourself ?
I have facts to support what I believe. Not hearsay from this and that. -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Britain is a first world democracy... the people choose their leaders freely and fairly...
...there are people that are lazy (or maybe they prefer to live under bridges) and there are people under the rule of despots...
..nobody in their right mind can deny that Singapore is under the rule of despots persecuting dissidents, opposition and
taking as much of the people's money as possible and putting as much of public money into their own pockets as possible...No one in their right mind will deny these facts. I agree. It also mean Singapore has lot of people with unsound minds who deny these facts.
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Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
I have facts to support what I believe. Not hearsay from this and that.
"Facts" that PAP feeds you with through the media? -
Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
I have facts to support what I believe. Not hearsay from this and that.So what made you so sure your facts are actual facts.
Did you compiled it yourself ? How independent are the facts ? Or do you rely on gahmen stats or claims ?
My facts are what I see with my own eyes.. and what I hear from the people around me.
Are you saying my eyes lies and my friends are not telling the truth ?
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
So what made you so sure your facts are actual facts.
Did you compiled it yourself ? How independent are the facts ? Or do you rely on gahmen stats or claims ?
My facts are what I see with my own eyes.. and what I hear from the people around me.
Are you saying my eyes lies and my friends are not telling the truth ?
No one in this forum is stopping you from challenging my "facts" with facts, but please dont try by using hearsay stories about my friends my uncle my PRC colleagues etc. -
Originally posted by £Ä¬€Ú°:
No one in this forum is stopping you from challenging my "facts" with facts, but please dont try by using hearsay stories about my friends my uncle my PRC colleagues etc.So if your facts contradicts what I see in reality . Are you saying I really should just believe in your "facts" because I have no "black and white" facts to counter yours ?
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Originally posted by Dimitri The Wanderer:
=> Jojo, just ignore this cockblock who talks without thinking, all i can see he is all out to anger forumers, sooner or later everyone gonna thrash his every post. For all i can say as i have ignored this inadequately uneducated bastard (that was a nice poke), his just a clone of someone you may have angered before so his out for a backlash.
Yes, he volunteers himself to be a troll here. He thinks that everyone has to approve what he says. He is on a mission impossible here to shut mouths of people who do not agree with the way the country is run by his beloved idols PAP. Impossible, impossible, there will be more to come about voicing their unhappiness about the way PAP is, not possible everyone will shut their mouth.He makes himself looks so foolish in this forum.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
So if your facts contradicts what I see in reality . Are you saying I really should just believe in your "facts" because I have no "black and white" facts to counter yours ?
Jo, I asked him to prove what he said about lies and so on, to date he evade to reply.His only interest and mission here is to shut all our mouths and want us to approve what he says and agree with the way PAP is running our country. Fat hope, never will people be up to his expectation of shutting mouths. He can jolly well surf PAP's website and this I am sure he is a lot happier.
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Originally posted by Civilgoh:
Yes, he volunteers himself to be a troll here. He thinks that everyone has to approve what he says. He is on a mission impossible here to shut mouths of people who do not agree with the way the country is run by his beloved idols PAP. Impossible, impossible, there will be more to come about voicing their unhappiness about the way PAP is, not possible everyone will shut their mouth.He makes himself looks so foolish in this forum.
Lol, do i even need to add more salt to his already inflicted wounds of shame. Jojo has repeatedly owned this cockblock over and over again, she's completely thrashed him out but he never learns. -
Originally posted by Dimitri The Wanderer:
Lol, do i even need to add more salt to his already inflicted wounds of shame. Jojo has repeatedly owned this cockblock over and over again, she's completely thrashed him out but he never learns.He is a reflection of his beloved idols.
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Originally posted by Civilgoh:
Jo, I asked him to prove what he said about lies and so on, to date he evade to reply.His only interest and mission here is to shut all our mouths and want us to approve what he says and agree with the way PAP is running our country. Fat hope, never will people be up to his expectation of shutting mouths. He can jolly well surf PAP's website and this I am sure he is a lot happier.
I will shut my mouth when PAP finally gets down to serving the people instead of serving their own pocket.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
I will shut my mouth when PAP finally gets down to serving the people instead of serving their own pocket.
well-said!