Help for fellow citizens
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Many had choosed to express their anger against the govt here. It is an outlet to voice their frustrations, and nothing wrong with it. The only thing wrong is when it turns to slander. More so when political opportunists take such disenchantment to sow discord and strife amongst us citizens, using us all as tools for their despicable political ambitions.
If you noticed, these slimy opportunists offers one no real solutions to help, but to stoke up the flames of discontent by adding the volitile fuel of falsehoods and half truths to burn the dismay faced by many in these current rise in inflationary pressures faced by many, not a problem created by our govt, but by events beyond our control.
Rather than to go into a senseless debate with them, for they will never admit to the truth or comprehend logic, they will only insult and show their further stupidity, helping no one. Thus this post, from a citizen to another, to share ideas on how to cope with the current times.
First of all, we must understand our problems, face up to facts and only then can we confront it to seek solutions. There is no free lunch in this world. Our society, while will never abandon the weak, neither will we help those who do not wish to help themselves but to sit around all day to moan and bitch.
The only way to fight inflation is to get better jobs or rise in salaries. Fighting with bosses will only ensure capital investments leave our shores, or forcing the govt for handouts will only bankrupt our next generation. Each year we get to welcome est.more than 50,000 new baby citizens, and we must ensure they have a future and are protected.
Education
------------
It is only through a good education that you may be able to get a better job. You will have to ensure that what you study is relevant to the industries that needs workers. Eg;-Financial Wealth management is the current hot job, CGI is another.
For those who already left for work, do go back for nite studies. There is no choice if one seeks more money. The govt will offer grants to those who wants to help themselves. As long as you qualify for a job and have the personality to match it, you will be hired. Even if you can't find a job here, your certificate will help you overseas, as a wealth manager in New York or air con mechanic in Australia.
Grocery
-----------
The govt had done their best to scout for the cheapest sources, and to cut down on the middlemen by buying direct from such sources. While our 3.5million population cannot fight against the international corporate shopkeepers who get better bulk discounts for billions of people such as Walmart, attempts had been made on inter-govt talks for better rates. Establishment of business ties with Russia, Vietnam, and Libya are such attempts.
As long as you buy what you need, and buy house brands, you will never starve in Singapore. Furthermore, if one is truly desperate and in need of food, CDC agencies will assist to issue food vouchers. If you do know of some family who is starving, please let them know our society will help them. They only need to approach our CDC centres and show that they are incapable of helping themselves, such as handicapped, or out of job, and help will be offered.
With all these help offered, it is hoped that the food bought is not wasted, and children must be taught not to waste their food.
Employment
--------------
In these times, attitudes are very important. While it is not necessary to beg or grovel before the bosses, there is also no need to take on a confrontational role with them. Without them, we will all have no jobs.
Reason and logic will move minds. Even if it doesnt, so long as we are proffesional in our duties and our work output is relevant and helps him in his profitability, there is no reason to get fired.
If one is retrenched, under our laws, he is protected and entitled to retrenchment benefits. With such monies, it would be wise to upgrade oneself mentally for other jobs that are avaliable in the market.
While the pay may be low in some firms, but if one shows his capability, he will be paid more in time. We are living in an era where capability is rewarded.
Entreprenuership
-------------------
After spending years on the job, and learning from it, one may consider taking the entreprenuership approach. In our country, there are no barriers to entry, saved your own desire and mental strength. Our govt offers grants to startup in critical and relevant industries, thus you will not stand alone. The only requirement is that you must have a sound plan as well as a capable team to help build up your company.
Recreation
--------------
Recreation costs had gone up. Thus there is a need to seek cheaper alternatives. All work and no play is not what our society wants. The beach, gardens and parks are still free.
Cinema tickets are cheaper during the workdays. Furthermore, there are cheap DVDs for rental as well.
Pubs are fun, but so can the neighbourhood coffee stalls as well. And it is much cheaper. $15 a mug of beer in pub vs $5.50 for a bottle in the heartlands.
Homes
---------
Prices of home had gone up. in 1970s, the first SIT flats costs only around $15,000 for a 3 room flat. But in those days, salaries were only around $800 a month and a cup of coffee costs only 30cts.
The world had changed, and costs of materials, which are largely imported, had gone up as well. And it will continue to spiral even for the next few generations to come.
Thus the rise in prices. But still, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo.
Times are hard, as it had been for our previous generations. While we have a better standard of living than some other nations, we can improve it for ourselves and the next generations, not by fighting one another over senseless issues, but critical ones that will elevate our lives further, as what our govt had been focussing on, and sadly, that which the opposition parties had been disconnected from.
If you have further ideas or solution that can help our fellow citizens, you are welcome to contribute to this thread. But if your intention is to whine and bitch, please open up your own thread.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Many had choosed to express their anger against the govt here. It is an outlet to voice their frustrations, and nothing wrong with it. The only thing wrong is when it turns to slander. More so when political opportunists take such disenchantment to sow discord and strife amongst us citizens, using us all as tools for their despicable political ambitions.
Hahaha - your Great Mentor Shepherd will laugh at your juvenile bravado in running away from your previous threads after being stumped by straight forward rebuttals by yours truly - in which you simply have no answers.
Now you are opening a new thread in the same style of a Gazelle to indoctrinate the unsuspecting with your own version of what the "Truth" should be.
Only a "deerHunter" has the ingenuity to re-interprete "Truth" in the different ways seen through a "cross-haired" hunting scope.
Has the constant viewing of the exploded view through a cross-haired scope caused your eyes to be crossed so badly that even your brains have been re-arranged ?
If you noticed, these slimy opportunists offers one no real solutions to help, but to stoke up the flames of discontent by adding the volitile fuel of falsehoods and half truths to burn the dismay faced by many in these current rise in inflationary pressures faced by many, not a problem created by our govt, but by events beyond our control.
Hahahaha...are you criticising your Great Mentor Shepherd - and refused to learn from his efforts when he attempted to combat those in authority, who were so keen to suppress alternative views, and are afraid of the open minds, the challenges from those with different philosophies ?
Are you not aware that your Great Mentor Shepherd had protested the loud mono-sycophantic sound that intend to drown out all other voices and replaced it with a monolithic idiot-logy ?
Has the 'deerHunter' taken lessons from the wrong master, or has he drawn the wrong conclusion from his efforts at plagiarising the wrong section of the great works of the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
Rather than to go into a senseless debate with them, for they will never admit to the truth or comprehend logic, they will only insult and show their further stupidity, helping no one. Thus this post, from a citizen to another, to share ideas on how to cope with the current times.
First of all, we must understand our problems, face up to facts and only then can we confront it to seek solutions. There is no free lunch in this world. Our society, while will never abandon the weak, neither will we help those who do not wish to help themselves but to sit around all day to moan and bitch.
How can we expect a deerHunter's narrow vision of the World when seen only through the cross-haired scope of his wimpy pop-gun ?
Do we need to be reminded that there is "no free lunch" when a useless deerHunter can only be weakened from his inability to even shoot straight to get his meal - will depend on the efforts of others in putting the meal on his table ?
Are Singaporeans incapable of being generous even to those seen to be useless in our midst - such as the juvenile 'deerHunter' with a wimpy gun?
Surely, we have also helped those who sit around and accusing Singaporeans moaning constantly, yet these are the ones who certainly know how to help themselves with some expensive crutch that cost Singaporeans millions of dollars - simply to keep themselves from being corrupted.
Do Singaporeans need to pay someone from being corrupted, when it is claimed that our Reserves cannot pay half that amount to those who need to be supported ?
The twisted logic of the argument has no moral foundation, and yet we will have ever willing carpet-beggars unthinkingly promote this false concept and expect it to be firmly set by constant repetition.
Yet, the difficulties encountered by Singaporeans are so real that the repeated efforts will not sit well with any Singaporean even for the next 150 years of Singapore's History.
The only way to fight inflation is to get better jobs or rise in salaries. Fighting with bosses will only ensure capital investments leave our shores, or forcing the govt for handouts will only bankrupt our next generation. Each year we get to welcome est.more than 50,000 new baby citizens, and we must ensure they have a future and are protected.
Do we need a 'deerHunter' to plagiarise the words and be a MP3 player for the repeated broadcasting of propaganda from the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
You brilliantly begin with a statement that - "The only way to fight inflation is to get better jobs or rise in salary" - but yet will expect Singaporeans to be work meekly as Third World cheap laborers for the foreign bosses - for fear of investments leaving our shores.
Why should we not expect the Government to return OUR money that you call "handouts" - when they are prepared to put Billions in the pockets of foreigners who will accept our money in return for empty shells of over-priced Companies ?
Can the 50,000 new babies have any future, when we leave them to the money grabbing policies of the Great Mentor Shepherd - who believe that more Foreign Talents are needed to compete with the 50,000 new born babies ?
Education
------------
It is only through a good education that you may be able to get a better job. You will have to ensure that what you study is relevant to the industries that needs workers. Eg;-Financial Wealth management is the current hot job, CGI is another.
Are you expecting all 4.5 million Singaporeans to study Financial Wealth Mgt ?
Are you certain that there is enough jobs in the Financial Sector to go around ?
What about those who are not inclined towards the Financial Sector - should they follow your cross-eyed vision to become another useless 'deerHunter' ?
Surely we know by now that the years of Singapore style education has left your brains unchallenged, with only the capacity in straight-line thinking - that do not move beyond even the horizontal or vertical plane.
Do you even know what trajectory to take with your screwed cross-haired vision in shooting a wimpy 'deerHunter' pop-gun ?
For those who already left for work, do go back for nite studies. There is no choice if one seeks more money. The govt will offer grants to those who wants to help themselves. As long as you qualify for a job and have the personality to match it, you will be hired. Even if you can't find a job here, your certificate will help you overseas, as a wealth manager in New York or air con mechanic in Australia.
Who are you working for in the Great Mentor office - polishing his shoes, or picking the crumbs that fall off his table on to the carpet ?
USA taking in Financial Managers - when their banking system are in disarray, and downsizing is the order of the day ?
Did you slipped into Australia as an illegal immigrant recently and are boasting of your success, or is this just pure fantasy to an unchallenged juvenile mind ?
Grocery
-----------
The govt had done their best to scout for the cheapest sources, and to cut down on the middlemen by buying direct from such sources. While our 3.5million population cannot fight against the international corporate shopkeepers who get better bulk discounts for billions of people such as Walmart, attempts had been made on inter-govt talks for better rates. Establishment of business ties with Russia, Vietnam, and Libya are such attempts.
As long as you buy what you need, and buy house brands, you will never starve in Singapore. Furthermore, if one is truly desperate and in need of food, CDC agencies will assist to issue food vouchers. If you do know of some family who is starving, please let them know our society will help them. They only need to approach our CDC centres and show that they are incapable of helping themselves, such as handicapped, or out of job, and help will be offered.
With all these help offered, it is hoped that the food bought is not wasted, and children must be taught not to waste their food.
Yes, the Government has done a great job in cutting out the small time middle-men and replaced it with their own favored middle-man - the NTUC FairPrice - which has not been so fair in their pricing on general consumer products sold to Singaporeans.
How else could NTUC explain for the millions that they have accumulated if their revenues are from simple collection of union fees ?
How did NTUC accumulate so much funds to build a multi-million dollar Glass Tower at the hottest property spot at the corner linking the old Financial District to the new Marine Financial Hub ?
Is the Glass Tower for the benefit of the thousands of NTUC members, or for the comfort and vanity of the NTUC leadership who are all members of the MIW Team ?
Employment
--------------
In these times, attitudes are very important. While it is not necessary to beg or grovel before the bosses, there is also no need to take on a confrontational role with them. Without them, we will all have no jobs.
Reason and logic will move minds. Even if it doesnt, so long as we are proffesional in our duties and our work output is relevant and helps him in his profitability, there is no reason to get fired.
If one is retrenched, under our laws, he is protected and entitled to retrenchment benefits. With such monies, it would be wise to upgrade oneself mentally for other jobs that are avaliable in the market.
While the pay may be low in some firms, but if one shows his capability, he will be paid more in time. We are living in an era where capability is rewarded.
So Singaporeans do not need to beg or grovel, neither should we be confrontational - and what should we expect to get from ''reason and logic'' to move minds that are screwed like that of a 'deerHunter' with a narrow vision blurred by the cross-hair permanently etched in both eyes ?
Are Singaporeans entitled to retrenchment benefits ?
Was it not a fact that following the 2004 economic downturn - the NTUC has so cleverly pushed Singaporeans to accept the new Working Arrangements of "Short Term Renewal Contracts" - to protects bosses from going bankrupt during hard times, so that the boss can "hire and fire" according to the prevailing economic situation ?
Are retrenchment benefits available to short term contract workers ?
Was it not a fact that the Singapore Government stand to benefit the most, as it is the largest single employer of Singaporeans throught the number of GLCs in their portfolio ?
Are you now protecting the interest of the Great Mentor Shepherd being the Chairman of Singapore Inc ?
How much food is left on your table without you having to pay a cent - in your current job as a mouthpiece extension for the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
Entreprenuership
-------------------
After spending years on the job, and learning from it, one may consider taking the entreprenuership approach. In our country, there are no barriers to entry, saved your own desire and mental strength. Our govt offers grants to startup in critical and relevant industries, thus you will not stand alone. The only requirement is that you must have a sound plan as well as a capable team to help build up your company.
Did you read the other thread in which a particpant in this Speakers' Corner has highlighted his “nightmares dealing with a bureaucratic ACRA”. ?
This is not the first time that ACRA has given nightmares to Directors and Entrepreneurs attempting to start SMEs.
Do you know the strings that are attached to the grants given for those who intend to start-up new enterprise for their solutions in critical industries ?
If not, it is well and good that you do some research and understand from the many failed start-ups - when the entrepreneurs with limited funds are forced into "marriages of convenience" with bigger public or private enterprises, only to see them attempting to swallow the entire enterprise by boardroom manouvrers especially when new capital need to be raised.
Recreation
--------------
Recreation costs had gone up. Thus there is a need to seek cheaper alternatives. All work and no play is not what our society wants. The beach, gardens and parks are still free.
Cinema tickets are cheaper during the workdays. Furthermore, there are cheap DVDs for rental as well.
Pubs are fun, but so can the neighbourhood coffee stalls as well. And it is much cheaper. $15 a mug of beer in pub vs $5.50 for a bottle in the heartlands.
Are we surprised that you did not include 'deerHunting' with a pop-gun ?
Is this your sole preserve that you do not want any competition from others who maybe better hunters - and steal the limelight from your efforts at making some Grand Standing Performance ?
Homes
---------
Prices of home had gone up. in 1970s, the first SIT flats costs only around $15,000 for a 3 room flat. But in those days, salaries were only around $800 a month and a cup of coffee costs only 30cts.
The world had changed, and costs of materials, which are largely imported, had gone up as well. And it will continue to spiral even for the next few generations to come.
Thus the rise in prices. But still, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo.
Are you confirming the fact that the strength of the Singapore Dollar has not been kept in pace with inflation ?
Was it not a fact that during the 1970s, even as salary was $800 for an average worker, 3 pieces of Hacks black mint cough drops cost only about 5 cents ?
Do you know the price - and how many pieces of the same that you will get at todays rate - despite a strong Singapore Dollar ?
Was it not a touted eonomic philosophy propounded by Dr Goh Keng Swee in the 70s - that Singapore will need to industrialise, and concentrate on our area of specialised dynamic advantage so as to achieve the most optimum level in economies of scale; and leaving other countries to achieve the same in their own areas of specialization given their prevailing set of conducive conditions ?
Were we not supposed to accumulate our wealth through industrialisation, and create a strong Singapore Dollar so as to import everything that we need at a much cheaper rate than we can produce for ourselves ?
Were Singaporeans not also assured that with our volume purchases from across the globe, we will be assured of competitive pricing, and better control our cost of living ?
Does a 3-room flat provide a better living environment than a similar sized 3-room condo unit ? Are we deluding ourselves by expecting everyone to downgrade our values and standards to that of a 3-Room flat ?
Is the 'deerHunter' now propagating on behalf of the MIW Government that - Singaporeans now are expected to lower our expectations as the MIW Government can no longer fulfill even their own dream of acheiveing a Swiss Standard of Living - AFTER incurring a Swiss Cost of Living on Singaporeans ?
Is it not true that a E-Flat can only be comparable to a 99-year condo, and in which case it is no longer constructed, leaving the 5-room flat being the closest equivalent to a Private Condo - with both having a 99 year lease ?
Yet, the floor area of a 5-room flat in the new townships have shrunk by more then 20 percent, even as the price has gone up by twice-as-much since the same 5-room flat was first offered in the late 1970s.
What happened to the strength of the Singapore Dollar ?
Has it losts its purchasing power, or has the Government decided to give out less space even for a reasonable living environment, so that the minds are left not too ambitious in a spacious environment ?
Compared this to the Elite Talent in the MIW Government are given soft-loans to purchase their landed properties to reflect their status as Talented Leaders.
Times are hard, as it had been for our previous generations. While we have a better standard of living than some other nations, we can improve it for ourselves and the next generations, not by fighting one another over senseless issues, but critical ones that will elevate our lives further, as what our govt had been focussing on, and sadly, that which the opposition parties had been disconnected from.
If you have further ideas or solution that can help our fellow citizens, you are welcome to contribute to this thread. But if your intention is to whine and bitch, please open up your own thread.
The generation during the Colonial Days had experienced harder times but lived in an environment in which the Colonial Government did not interfere with the market mechanism, and left a largely 'laissez faire' environment in Singapore.
It was in that environment in which we have community leaders willing to stand up and help their respective communities, as well as reach out towards the other communities.
Those were the community leaders that rejected the politics of a young upstart and brash English-educated lawyer, who believe himself to be smarter than everyone, especially when he could not even communicate in his own dialect, let alone in Mandarin to those in his own community.
Those were the community leaders that rejected the idea of a merger, and had supported the Barisan Sosialis in large numbers, and resulted in the harsh ways of slamming down these supposedly negative influence that obstructed merger; and led to a Referendum that was designed to wilffuly push Singapore into merger.
Is this the same in Singapore today, when community leadership is seldom voluntary in nature, and require cajoling or even enticing with social benefits and status ?
In an environment when OB markers are not well defined, and when politics are only the exclusive turf for politicians - are there any space for Singaporeans to be politically pro-active and not passive observers ?
Only a carpet-beggar in the form of a pseudo 'deerHunter' will unashamedly propagate the false climate that has been perpetuated; and the amateurish juvenile efforts are no better than that of a "gazelle" or a "noisylion" - both pretending to push their own agenda with rotten English.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Hahaha - your Great Mentor Shepherd will laugh at your juvenile bravado in running away from your previous threads after being stumped by straight forward rebuttals by yours truly - in which you simply have no answers.
Now you are opening a new thread in the same style of a Gazelle to indoctrinate the unsuspecting with your own version of what the "Truth" should be.
Only a "deerHunter" has the ingenuity to re-interprete "Truth" in the different ways seen through a "cross-haired" hunting scope.
Has the constant viewing of the exploded view through a cross-haired scope caused your eyes to be crossed so badly that even your brains have been re-arranged ?
Hahahaha...are you criticising your Great Mentor Shepherd - and refused to learn from his efforts when he attempted to combat those in authority, who were so keen to suppress alternative views, and are afraid of the open minds, the challenges from those with different philosophies ?
Are you not aware that your Great Mentor Shepherd had protested the loud mono-sycophantic sound that intend to drown out all other voices and replaced it with a monolithic idiot-logy ?
Has the 'deerHunter' taken lessons from the wrong master, or has he drawn the wrong conclusion from his efforts at plagiarising the wrong section of the great works of the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
How can we expect a deerHunter's narrow vision of the World when seen only through the cross-haired scope of his wimpy pop-gun ?
Do we need to be reminded that there is "no free lunch" when a useless deerHunter can only be weakened from his inability to even shoot straight to get his meal - will depend on the efforts of others in putting the meal on his table ?
Are Singaporeans incapable of being generous even to those seen to be useless in our midst - such as the juvenile 'deerHunter' with a wimpy gun?
Surely, we have also helped those who sit around and accusing Singaporeans moaning constantly, yet these are the ones who certainly know how to help themselves with some expensive crutch that cost Singaporeans millions of dollars - simply to keep themselves from being corrupted.
Do Singaporeans need to pay someone from being corrupted, when it is claimed that our Reserves cannot pay half that amount to those who need to be supported ?
The twisted logic of the argument has no moral foundation, and yet we will have ever willing carpet-beggars unthinkingly promote this false concept and expect it to be firmly set by constant repetition.
Yet, the difficulties encountered by Singaporeans are so real that the repeated efforts will not sit well with any Singaporean even for the next 150 years of Singapore's History.
Do we need a 'deerHunter' to plagiarise the words and be a MP3 player for the repeated broadcasting of propaganda from the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
You brilliantly begin with a statement that - "The only way to fight inflation is to get better jobs or rise in salary" - but yet will expect Singaporeans to be work meekly as Third World cheap laborers for the foreign bosses - for fear of investments leaving our shores.
Why should we not expect the Government to return OUR money that you call "handouts" - when they are prepared to put Billions in the pockets of foreigners who will accept our money in return for empty shells of over-priced Companies ?
Can the 50,000 new babies have any future, when we leave them to the money grabbing policies of the Great Mentor Shepherd - who believe that more Foreign Talents are needed to compete with the 50,000 new born babies ?
Are you expecting all 4.5 million Singaporeans to study Financial Wealth Mgt ?
Are you certain that there is enough jobs in the Financial Sector to go around ?
What about those who are not inclined towards the Financial Sector - should they follow your cross-eyed vision to become another useless 'deerHunter' ?
Surely we know by now that the years of Singapore style education has left your brains unchallenged, with only the capacity in straight-line thinking - that do not move beyond even the horizontal or vertical plane.
Do you even know what trajectory to take with your screwed cross-haired vision in shooting a wimpy 'deerHunter' pop-gun ?
Who are you working for in the Great Mentor office - polishing his shoes, or picking the crumbs that fall off his table on to the carpet ?
USA taking in Financial Managers - when their banking system are in disarray, and downsizing is the order of the day ?
Did you slipped into Australia as an illegal immigrant recently and are boasting of your success, or is this just pure fantasy to an unchallenged juvenile mind ?
Yes, the Government has done a great job in cutting out the small time middle-men and replaced it with their own favored middle-man - the NTUC FairPrice - which has not been so fair in their pricing on general consumer products sold to Singaporeans.
How else could NTUC explain for the millions that they have accumulated if their revenues are from simple collection of union fees ?
How did NTUC accumulate so much funds to build a multi-million dollar Glass Tower at the hottest property spot at the corner linking the old Financial District to the new Marine Financial Hub ?
Is the Glass Tower for the benefit of the thousands of NTUC members, or for the comfort and vanity of the NTUC leadership who are all members of the MIW Team ?
So Singaporeans do not need to beg or grovel, neither should we be confrontational - and what should we expect to get from ''reason and logic'' to move minds that are screwed like that of a 'deerHunter' with a narrow vision blurred by the cross-hair permanently etched in both eyes ?
Are Singaporeans entitled to retrenchment benefits ?
Was it not a fact that following the 2004 economic downturn - the NTUC has so cleverly pushed Singaporeans to accept the new Working Arrangements of "Short Term Renewal Contracts" - to protects bosses from going bankrupt during hard times, so that the boss can "hire and fire" according to the prevailing economic situation ?
Are retrenchment benefits available to short term contract workers ?
Was it not a fact that the Singapore Government stand to benefit the most, as it is the largest single employer of Singaporeans throught the number of GLCs in their portfolio ?
Are you now protecting the interest of the Great Mentor Shepherd being the Chairman of Singapore Inc ?
How much food is left on your table without you having to pay a cent - in your current job as a mouthpiece extension for the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
Did you read the other thread in which a particpant in this Speakers' Corner has highlighted his “nightmares dealing with a bureaucratic ACRA”. ?
This is not the first time that ACRA has given nightmares to Directors and Entrepreneurs attempting to start SMEs.
Do you know the strings that are attached to the grants given for those who intend to start-up new enterprise for their solutions in critical industries ?
If not, it is well and good that you do some research and understand from the many failed start-ups - when the entrepreneurs with limited funds are forced into "marriages of convenience" with bigger public or private enterprises, only to see them attempting to swallow the entire enterprise by boardroom manouvrers especially when new capital need to be raised.
Are we surprised that you did not include 'deerHunting' with a pop-gun ?
Is this your sole preserve that you do not want any competition from others who maybe better hunters - and steal the limelight from your efforts at making some Grand Standing Performance ?
Are you confirming the fact that the strength of the Singapore Dollar has not been kept in pace with inflation ?
Was it not a fact that during the 1970s, even as salary was $800 for an average worker, 3 pieces of Hacks black mint cough drops cost only about 5 cents ?
Do you know the price - and how many pieces of the same that you will get at todays rate - despite a strong Singapore Dollar ?
Was it not a touted eonomic philosophy propounded by Dr Goh Keng Swee in the 70s - that Singapore will need to industrialise, and concentrate on our area of specialised dynamic advantage so as to achieve the most optimum level in economies of scale; and leaving other countries to achieve the same in their own areas of specialization given their prevailing set of conducive conditions ?
Were we not supposed to accumulate our wealth through industrialisation, and create a strong Singapore Dollar so as to import everything that we need at a much cheaper rate than we can produce for ourselves ?
Were Singaporeans not also assured that with our volume purchases from across the globe, we will be assured of competitive pricing, and better control our cost of living ?
Does a 3-room flat provide a better living environment than a similar sized 3-room condo unit ? Are we deluding ourselves by expecting everyone to downgrade our values and standards to that of a 3-Room flat ?
Is the 'deerHunter' now propagating on behalf of the MIW Government that - Singaporeans now are expected to lower our expectations as the MIW Government can no longer fulfill even their own dream of acheiveing a Swiss Standard of Living - AFTER incurring a Swiss Cost of Living on Singaporeans ?
Is it not true that a E-Flat can only be comparable to a 99-year condo, and in which case it is no longer constructed, leaving the 5-room flat being the closest equivalent to a Private Condo - with both having a 99 year lease ?
Yet, the floor area of a 5-room flat in the new townships have shrunk by more then 20 percent, even as the price has gone up by twice-as-much since the same 5-room flat was first offered in the late 1970s.
What happened to the strength of the Singapore Dollar ?
Has it losts its purchasing power, or has the Government decided to give out less space even for a reasonable living environment, so that the minds are left not too ambitious in a spacious environment ?
Compared this to the Elite Talent in the MIW Government are given soft-loans to purchase their landed properties to reflect their status as Talented Leaders.
The generation during the Colonial Days had experienced harder times but lived in an environment in which the Colonial Government did not interfere with the market mechanism, and left a largely 'laissez faire' environment in Singapore.
It was in that environment in which we have community leaders willing to stand up and help their respective communities, as well as reach out towards the other communities.
Those were the community leaders that rejected the politics of a young upstart and brash English-educated lawyer, who believe himself to be smarter than everyone, especially when he could not even communicate in his own dialect, let alone in Mandarin to those in his own community.
Those were the community leaders that rejected the idea of a merger, and had supported the Barisan Sosialis in large numbers, and resulted in the harsh ways of slamming down these supposedly negative influence that obstructed merger; and led to a Referendum that was designed to wilffuly push Singapore into merger.
Is this the same in Singapore today, when community leadership is seldom voluntary in nature, and require cajoling or even enticing with social benefits and status ?
In an environment when OB markers are not well defined, and when politics are only the exclusive turf for politicians - are there any space for Singaporeans to be politically pro-active and not passive observers ?
Only a carpet-beggar in the form of a pseudo 'deerHunter' will unashamedly propagate the false climate that has been perpetuated; and the amateurish juvenile efforts are no better than that of a "gazelle" or a "noisylion" - both pretending to push their own agenda with rotten English.
Wonderful dastardly performance. You proved my point on the despicable ways of your political opportunistic ways to slander, malign, with lies and half-truths, twist and turn, and yet-OFFER NOTHING FOR OUR CITIZENS.
Thank you for posting it here for all to see.
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Education
The "current" hot job is always changing and you expect Singaporeans to keep changing their skillset and have many skills but good at none?
And do you know how expensive (even after subsidize) how many years it will take just to acquire another skill or further study, and it does not guarantee that it will land you a better job (cause you have zero experience!).
Employment
With the influx of FT, the salary of local have been going down. Even if you have sufficient capability, cost will always be a major deciding factor.
Recreation
Stay at home and rot even cheaper (free somemore).
Homes
Of course, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo. It's like saying 10 cent is cheaper than $1?
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Originally posted by 333225520:
Education
The "current" hot job is always changing and you expect Singaporeans to keep changing their skillset and have many skills but good at none?
And do you know how expensive (even after subsidize) how many years it will take just to acquire another skill or further study, and it does not guarantee that it will land you a better job (cause you have zero experience!).
Employment
With the influx of FT, the salary of local have been going down. Even if you have sufficient capability, cost will always be a major deciding factor.
Recreation
Stay at home and rot even cheaper (free somemore).
Homes
Of course, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo. It's like saying 10 cent is cheaper than $1?
My views are my own as a private citizen sharing with another and they are not a precise reflection of the govt's policies. The govt would be in a better position to explain to you all, during our meet-the-people sessions as well as in the media when they have the opportunity to do so.
I will not be so naive as to believe that ALL will agree to everything, but i do believe majority will share a similar view that we do have a capable govt in charge and are doing whatever they can to seek solutions to solve the issues we face daily. We aren't a large nation with a big say or the ability to change strong held perceptions by larger nations. Many decisions are determined by others of which our country have no control.
We are just a tiny red speck on the map, according to our big brother or bully as some view them. We have to go with the flow and do our best to help our fellow citizens who may be slower than the rest, while fighting for our own sovereignity to be heard to have a chance to change perceptions and get benefits for our countrymen.
The "current" hot job is always changing and you expect Singaporeans to keep changing their skillset and have many skills but good at none?
And do you know how expensive (even after subsidize) how many years it will take just to acquire another skill or further study, and it does not guarantee that it will land you a better job (cause you have zero experience!).
Yes. I agree fully with you and understand your problem. And what would your solution be? My view is that we will have to start somewhere and get that job, or save that job. There are only limited positions at the top and companies will only want the best. Thus you would have to be the best. No matter what, we must grab opportunity and must not afford to be choosy, not in these present times.
With the influx of FT, the salary of local have been going down. Even if you have sufficient capability, cost will always be a major deciding factor.
I agree, worse still if you have a family to support and the FT is single, and it would be difficult for you to survive even if both draws the same salary. The trick thus is to learn from the FT and then make yourself indispensible to your boss. As long as you can show you are more capable than the FT, he will not want to lose you. Afterall, FTs are only hired because they have a skillset we dont have.
But if they are hired because they are cheaper, as in the case of IT proffessionals or FW, then either you have to accept a lower pay and work your way up to be indispensible, or with your skills, seek overseas assignments to earn better salaries. Your capability is a passport to the world, ensured by our govt's emphasis on education.
Recreation
Stay at home and rot even cheaper (free somemore).
Of course it would be cheaper. But for the young, it is no fun. Perhaps you may consider inviting some friends over instead to watch a ballgame or movie, get a 6 pack and some chips, and you will have an atmosphere like a pub. As long as we live within our means, we should have no problems facing a tougher world.
Our previous generation been there and done that, so can we. Tough times don't last, only tough people do. And you, my fellow citizen, are sons and daughters of tough ancestors.
Homes
Of course, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo. It's like saying 10 cent is cheaper than $1?
Yup. If you have 10 cents, you will still be able to buy one sweet. With $1 you can buy 10 cents. Similarly, if we earn little, then we buy HDB. If we worked hard and get paid more, then buy a condo.
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If we worked hard and get paid more, then buy a condo.
I really like this sentence from you. Good for you!
But my way of thinking different from yours. I rather work smart and get paid more instead of work even harder.
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My Deer so boh liao.
You think people donno all the points you listed meh ?
Singaporeans are already doing their best to adapt to the issues they face everyday. Because they have NO CHOICE.
And what are our million lollars ministers doing ?
"With the pay revision, the annual salary for President SR Nathan will go up from $3.1 million this year to $3.87 million in 2008, the Prime Minister's from $3.09 million to $3.76 million, ministers and senior permanent secretaries, from $1.593 million to $1.94 million, entry superscale grade Admin officers, from $384,000 to $398,000 and MPs, from $216,300 to $225,000"
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Wonderful dastardly performance. You proved my point on the despicable ways of your political opportunistic ways to slander, malign, with lies and half-truths, twist and turn, and yet-OFFER NOTHING FOR OUR CITIZENS.
Thank you for posting it here for all to see.
Wonderful dastardly performance ?Why will you adopt such a negative attitude towards an honest opinion ?
Again, you have resorted to mere polemics in dismissing outright the various points that were carefully thought out to rebutt your useless ways of imitating a tiresome refrain from the same sycophantic propaganda of your Master's Voice.
Do you not feel ashamed that your juvenile efforts can hardly help but to bastardise his efforts ?
What have you offered to our Citizens in your post other then to make pointless recommendations that are borrowed from an "Idiot's guidebook" to BS the uninitiated ?
Again, you make reference to the wider audience when you cannot find any logical thoughts to counter each of the points that I have raised to every one of your single idiot-logy posted.
Seriously, it does not matter what others think of my post - and if it does matter to you so much, would it not be in your own interest to make better effort at defending your positions in more sensible ways ?
Or are only capable of being a mere actor, memorising the lines, and hoping to sound like the real thing ?
You may just make a success at Gazelle hunting, or go mushroom plucking, or perhaps make it with the noisylion to form a comic act-for-two.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
My views are my own as a private citizen sharing with another and they are not a precise reflection of the govt's policies. The govt would be in a better position to explain to you all, during our meet-the-people sessions as well as in the media when they have the opportunity to do so.
Who are you attempting to con in claiming that these views are that of a private citizen, when in the same paragraph, you will claim that "the govt would be in a better position to explain to you all, during OUR meet-the-people sessions" !!
Have you stop pretending or did you simply made a slip in exposing your real position as nothing more then a Government man ?
I will not be so naive as to believe that ALL will agree to everything, but i do believe majority will share a similar view that we do have a capable govt in charge and are doing whatever they can to seek solutions to solve the issues we face daily. We aren't a large nation with a big say or the ability to change strong held perceptions by larger nations. Many decisions are determined by others of which our country have no control.
Have you not been more then naive - even to the point of being exposed for a fool - to believe that you can continue to push the views of the government in your not so subtle ways ?
How do you justify the wages paid to a government of a small nation that is 10x more then that paid to the government of a nation that is 100 times bigger then ourselves - when you are justifying that the events in the World is beyond the capability of a government of our small nation to influence ?
If all the decisions are determined by others, why should we pay our government ministers that cost the citizens more money then it is worth ?
Even Hong Kong being the closest resemblance to our size and work ethics do not pay as much to their government, who are similarly subjected to the decisions by larger nations that affect the global issues.
We are just a tiny red speck on the map, according to our big brother or bully as some view them. We have to go with the flow and do our best to help our fellow citizens who may be slower than the rest, while fighting for our own sovereignity to be heard to have a chance to change perceptions and get benefits for our countrymen.
What political idiot-logy are your attempting to push ?
How have you so brilliantly tangle the issues in fighting for our own sovereignty by standing up to the neighboring big brother-bully, and going with the tide to help our weaker ones to change perceptions after being heard by the bullies, and get some benefits from them ?
Surely, your brains must have been re-arranged from staring too long through the cross-haired scope of your silly 'deerHunter' wimpy gun.
The "current" hot job is always changing and you expect Singaporeans to keep changing their skillset and have many skills but good at none?
And do you know how expensive (even after subsidize) how many years it will take just to acquire another skill or further study, and it does not guarantee that it will land you a better job (cause you have zero experience!).
Yes. I agree fully with you and understand your problem. And what would your solution be? My view is that we will have to start somewhere and get that job, or save that job. There are only limited positions at the top and companies will only want the best. Thus you would have to be the best. No matter what, we must grab opportunity and must not afford to be choosy, not in these present times.
Your views was for everyone to start with Financial Management - would that include all your grandpa and grandma, your old uncles, and aunties - all the retired old folks included ?
Would that include the very young in play-school to begin their foundation with training in recognition of financial numbers and symbols ?
So with everyone going financial, and the companies only needing the very best, what alternative jobs do you recommend for the other 99% with high qualifications in Financial Management ?
Are you suggesting that Singaporeans "go-with-the-flow" according to your brilliant predictions as to where the next flow will go ?
Was that not the problems in the 1970s, when there were simply far too many A-levels going for medical school, with insufficient numbers going for engineering ?
Then came the 1980s, a sudden realisation that there were not enough computer science and electrical engineers to meet with the demands of R&D in the electronic sectors.
It happened again as 1999 came to an end, and the 21 Century began - when it was realised that the future was in Bio-technology, and to groom anyone - to be of sufficient proficiency that will be of some value to the industry - will take at least 10 years.
Does the government know what the next wave will be in the future - in another 10 years ?
Will those who are groomed for Bio-tech now suddenly find themselves to be redundant ten years into the future ?
With the influx of FT, the salary of local have been going down. Even if you have sufficient capability, cost will always be a major deciding factor.
I agree, worse still if you have a family to support and the FT is single, and it would be difficult for you to survive even if both draws the same salary. The trick thus is to learn from the FT and then make yourself indispensible to your boss. As long as you can show you are more capable than the FT, he will not want to lose you. Afterall, FTs are only hired because they have a skillset we dont have.
But if they are hired because they are cheaper, as in the case of IT proffessionals or FW, then either you have to accept a lower pay and work your way up to be indispensible, or with your skills, seek overseas assignments to earn better salaries. Your capability is a passport to the world, ensured by our govt's emphasis on education.
What a load of crap are you pushing with your idea that if FT are hired because they are cheaper - as in the case of IT professionals or FW ?
Since when are IT professionals and FW supposed to come cheap ?
If they are cheap, and we are supposed to accept a lower pay and work our way up - how far lower in wages are you recommending we should go below the cheap wages of these FT ?
Will anyone compete with the 'deerHunter' to become 'INDISPENSABLE' to the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
Recreation
Stay at home and rot even cheaper (free somemore).
Of course it would be cheaper. But for the young, it is no fun. Perhaps you may consider inviting some friends over instead to watch a ballgame or movie, get a 6 pack and some chips, and you will have an atmosphere like a pub. As long as we live within our means, we should have no problems facing a tougher world.
Can you still claim that you are not a keen disciple of the Great Mentor Shepherd, with your keen efforts to push your indoor activities that benefit the GLCs ?
Watching TV to boost Starhubs or MediaCorp, drinking 6-Pack that benefit 'Tiger' and eating chips from 'Fairprice' - both tied up with GLCs - and with the activities at home consuming electricity that adds revenue to Temasek Inc; and with the friends coming over will require them to choose from at least 3 major Taxi companies owned by the GLCs - and all the more so if they drink too many 6-packs before going home.
How certain are you that your idea is not more expensive then simply reading in bed, or simply following your pretentious 'deerHunting' ways ?
Why did you not promote your 'deerHunting' adventures with a wimpy gun ?
It should be cheaper doing your deluded hunting adventures in your $27 garbage bin that you attempt to promote.
Our previous generation been there and done that, so can we. Tough times don't last, only tough people do. And you, my fellow citizen, are sons and daughters of tough ancestors.
Is this supposed to be a wimpy effort at a Grand Standing Performance ?
Can you hold donw a 6-pack if you are supposed to as tough as a deluded 'deerHunter' ?
You can hardly control your pride and with your sensitivities so easily pricked by the simplest of honest opinions, can you be as tough as your tougher ancestors ?
You are a real joke.
Homes
Of course, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo. It's like saying 10 cent is cheaper than $1?
Yup. If you have 10 cents, you will still be able to buy one sweet. With $1 you can buy 10 cents. Similarly, if we earn little, then we buy HDB. If we worked hard and get paid more, then buy a condo.
Are you indulging in some kind of financial idiot-logy ?
Is there any value if we have to pay $1 in exchange for 10 cents ?
Only a fool will commit to purchasing a house beyond one's financial capability - is that not obvious ?
The problem now is that even the cheapest house may not be within the reach of the younger generation.
Would the educated move into a neighborhood of 1-room HDB flat - as it is the cheapest that a low salary can get ?
Perhaps the 'deerHunter' is living his life in a $27 garbage bin, and has the expert experience to recommend staying in the more expensively priced HDB units - regardless of the neighborhood quality ?
Surely, the deerHunter cannot afford to imitate all that the Great Mentor Shepherd is capable of - like living in the splendor of his special priced condo units, and the deerHunter will go around preaching to everyone to live in the HDB flats, otherwise Minister MBT will have a harder time to explain the empty untaken units.
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Of course, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo. It's like saying 10 cent is cheaper than $1?
Aiyah, dunno how he compare one la... Condo can use facilities for free, although u hv to pay a monthly maintenance, which isn't that much higher than paying for season parking (if also own a car at the same time) at HDB carparks (Parking is free in your own condo)
Also, condos do have the opportunity to be sold en bloc for a very large profit. Never will you see this for HDB.
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aiya, 3 room flat condo or 3 room hdb 'condo' also the same in the respect that they are both leased. i heard that overseas, the citizen own their land beneath their bungalow. i so toad in a well man. i no no wan.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Who are you attempting to con in claiming that these views are that of a private citizen, when in the same paragraph, you will claim that "the govt would be in a better position to explain to you all, during OUR meet-the-people sessions" !!
Have you stop pretending or did you simply made a slip in exposing your real position as nothing more then a Government man ?
Have you not been more then naive - even to the point of being exposed for a fool - to believe that you can continue to push the views of the government in your not so subtle ways ?
How do you justify the wages paid to a government of a small nation that is 10x more then that paid to the government of a nation that is 100 times bigger then ourselves - when you are justifying that the events in the World is beyond the capability of a government of our small nation to influence ?
If all the decisions are determined by others, why should we pay our government ministers that cost the citizens more money then it is worth ?
Even Hong Kong being the closest resemblance to our size and work ethics do not pay as much to their government, who are similarly subjected to the decisions by larger nations that affect the global issues.
What political idiot-logy are your attempting to push ?
How have you so brilliantly tangle the issues in fighting for our own sovereignty by standing up to the neighboring big brother-bully, and going with the tide to help our weaker ones to change perceptions after being heard by the bullies, and get some benefits from them ?
Surely, your brains must have been re-arranged from staring too long through the cross-haired scope of your silly 'deerHunter' wimpy gun.
Your views was for everyone to start with Financial Management - would that include all your grandpa and grandma, your old uncles, and aunties - all the retired old folks included ?
Would that include the very young in play-school to begin their foundation with training in recognition of financial numbers and symbols ?
So with everyone going financial, and the companies only needing the very best, what alternative jobs do you recommend for the other 99% with high qualifications in Financial Management ?
Are you suggesting that Singaporeans "go-with-the-flow" according to your brilliant predictions as to where the next flow will go ?
Was that not the problems in the 1970s, when there were simply far too many A-levels going for medical school, with insufficient numbers going for engineering ?
Then came the 1980s, a sudden realisation that there were not enough computer science and electrical engineers to meet with the demands of R&D in the electronic sectors.
It happened again as 1999 came to an end, and the 21 Century began - when it was realised that the future was in Bio-technology, and to groom anyone - to be of sufficient proficiency that will be of some value to the industry - will take at least 10 years.
Does the government know what the next wave will be in the future - in another 10 years ?
Will those who are groomed for Bio-tech now suddenly find themselves to be redundant ten years into the future ?
What a load of crap are you pushing with your idea that if FT are hired because they are cheaper - as in the case of IT professionals or FW ?
Since when are IT professionals and FW supposed to come cheap ?
If they are cheap, and we are supposed to accept a lower pay and work our way up - how far lower in wages are you recommending we should go below the cheap wages of these FT ?
Will anyone compete with the 'deerHunter' to become 'INDISPENSABLE' to the Great Mentor Shepherd ?
Can you still claim that you are not a keen disciple of the Great Mentor Shepherd, with your keen efforts to push your indoor activities that benefit the GLCs ?
Watching TV to boost Starhubs or MediaCorp, drinking 6-Pack that benefit 'Tiger' and eating chips from 'Fairprice' - both tied up with GLCs - and with the activities at home consuming electricity that adds revenue to Temasek Inc; and with the friends coming over will require them to choose from at least 3 major Taxi companies owned by the GLCs - and all the more so if they drink too many 6-packs before going home.
How certain are you that your idea is not more expensive then simply reading in bed, or simply following your pretentious 'deerHunting' ways ?
Why did you not promote your 'deerHunting' adventures with a wimpy gun ?
It should be cheaper doing your deluded hunting adventures in your $27 garbage bin that you attempt to promote.
Is this supposed to be a wimpy effort at a Grand Standing Performance ?
Can you hold donw a 6-pack if you are supposed to as tough as a deluded 'deerHunter' ?
You can hardly control your pride and with your sensitivities so easily pricked by the simplest of honest opinions, can you be as tough as your tougher ancestors ?
You are a real joke.
Are you indulging in some kind of financial idiot-logy ?
Is there any value if we have to pay $1 in exchange for 10 cents ?
Only a fool will commit to purchasing a house beyond one's financial capability - is that not obvious ?
The problem now is that even the cheapest house may not be within the reach of the younger generation.
Would the educated move into a neighborhood of 1-room HDB flat - as it is the cheapest that a low salary can get ?
Perhaps the 'deerHunter' is living his life in a $27 garbage bin, and has the expert experience to recommend staying in the more expensively priced HDB units - regardless of the neighborhood quality ?
Surely, the deerHunter cannot afford to imitate all that the Great Mentor Shepherd is capable of - like living in the splendor of his special priced condo units, and the deerHunter will go around preaching to everyone to live in the HDB flats, otherwise Minister MBT will have a harder time to explain the empty untaken units.
Finished with your rant and twisted logic? If so, i do believed you had your say. Run along now, and crawl back to your rubbish bin.
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Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:
aiya, 3 room flat condo or 3 room hdb 'condo' also the same in the respect that they are both leased. i heard that overseas, the citizen own their land beneath their bungalow. i so toad in a well man. i no no wan.
Why must lease be 99 years ?
Since it is a lease.. why can't the HDB just lease it on a month by month basis ?
Instead they make the people take a big loan and pay interests? Just to pay UPFRONT to HDB ?
Even if dwellers wants to lease a longer time so they can renovate the place.. why isn't there lease period options.. like
You can choose to lease 20 or 50 or even 15 years ...renewable ??
Must HDB be so rigid and make life so difficult ?
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OMFG WALL OF TEXT!
Education
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It is only through a good education that you may be able to get a better job. You will have to ensure that what you study is relevant to the industries that needs workers. Eg;-Financial Wealth management is the current hot job, CGI is another.
For those who already left for work, do go back for nite studies. There is no choice if one seeks more money. The govt will offer grants to those who wants to help themselves. As long as you qualify for a job and have the personality to match it, you will be hired. Even if you can't find a job here, your certificate will help you overseas, as a wealth manager in New York or air con mechanic in Australia.
Wow, so night studies are cheap? So what's the reason for Singaporean not able to get job right at their homeland?
Grocery
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The govt had done their best to scout for the cheapest sources, and to cut down on the middlemen by buying direct from such sources. While our 3.5million population cannot fight against the international corporate shopkeepers who get better bulk discounts for billions of people such as Walmart, attempts had been made on inter-govt talks for better rates. Establishment of business ties with Russia, Vietnam, and Libya are such attempts.
As long as you buy what you need, and buy house brands, you will never starve in Singapore. Furthermore, if one is truly desperate and in need of food, CDC agencies will assist to issue food vouchers. If you do know of some family who is starving, please let them know our society will help them. They only need to approach our CDC centres and show that they are incapable of helping themselves, such as handicapped, or out of job, and help will be offered.
With all these help offered, it is hoped that the food bought is not wasted, and children must be taught not to waste their food.
Too bad SG is too small to have ppl dying of hunger but if SG is as big as USA or w/e we will sure have more death rate of ppl dying of hunger IF our current goverment is ruling.
Employment
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In these times, attitudes are very important. While it is not necessary to beg or grovel before the bosses, there is also no need to take on a confrontational role with them. Without them, we will all have no jobs.
Reason and logic will move minds. Even if it doesnt, so long as we are proffesional in our duties and our work output is relevant and helps him in his profitability, there is no reason to get fired.
If one is retrenched, under our laws, he is protected and entitled to retrenchment benefits. With such monies, it would be wise to upgrade oneself mentally for other jobs that are avaliable in the market.
While the pay may be low in some firms, but if one shows his capability, he will be paid more in time. We are living in an era where capability is rewarded.
For this we should think what's the reason for all the retrenchment and WHY FTs are getting our job .. Cos they are have a salary of one man but doing three man job? After everything FTs just pat pat their backside and go back to their homeland.
Entreprenuership
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After spending years on the job, and learning from it, one may consider taking the entreprenuership approach. In our country, there are no barriers to entry, saved your own desire and mental strength. Our govt offers grants to startup in critical and relevant industries, thus you will not stand alone. The only requirement is that you must have a sound plan as well as a capable team to help build up your company.
So tell us what's the grants pls.
Recreation
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Recreation costs had gone up. Thus there is a need to seek cheaper alternatives. All work and no play is not what our society wants. The beach, gardens and parks are still free.
Cinema tickets are cheaper during the workdays. Furthermore, there are cheap DVDs for rental as well.
Pubs are fun, but so can the neighbourhood coffee stalls as well. And it is much cheaper. $15 a mug of beer in pub vs $5.50 for a bottle in the heartlands.
I guess you don't usually unwind yourself huh? The main point ain't the drink dude, it's the company and atomsphere we are getting.
Homes
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Prices of home had gone up. in 1970s, the first SIT flats costs only around $15,000 for a 3 room flat. But in those days, salaries were only around $800 a month and a cup of coffee costs only 30cts.
The world had changed, and costs of materials, which are largely imported, had gone up as well. And it will continue to spiral even for the next few generations to come.
Thus the rise in prices. But still, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo.
Condo are expensive cos of the extra security etc etc .. So no point comparing.
All in all, personally i really think u should get yourself into PAP or helping them in any ways .. They need u.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Many had choosed to express their anger against the govt here. It is an outlet to voice their frustrations, and nothing wrong with it. The only thing wrong is when it turns to slander. More so when political opportunists take such disenchantment to sow discord and strife amongst us citizens, using us all as tools for their despicable political ambitions.
If you noticed, these slimy opportunists offers one no real solutions to help, but to stoke up the flames of discontent by adding the volitile fuel of falsehoods and half truths to burn the dismay faced by many in these current rise in inflationary pressures faced by many, not a problem created by our govt, but by events beyond our control.
Rather than to go into a senseless debate with them, for they will never admit to the truth or comprehend logic, they will only insult and show their further stupidity, helping no one. Thus this post, from a citizen to another, to share ideas on how to cope with the current times.
First of all, we must understand our problems, face up to facts and only then can we confront it to seek solutions. There is no free lunch in this world. Our society, while will never abandon the weak, neither will we help those who do not wish to help themselves but to sit around all day to moan and bitch.
The only way to fight inflation is to get better jobs or rise in salaries. Fighting with bosses will only ensure capital investments leave our shores, or forcing the govt for handouts will only bankrupt our next generation. Each year we get to welcome est.more than 50,000 new baby citizens, and we must ensure they have a future and are protected.
Education
------------
It is only through a good education that you may be able to get a better job. You will have to ensure that what you study is relevant to the industries that needs workers. Eg;-Financial Wealth management is the current hot job, CGI is another.
For those who already left for work, do go back for nite studies. There is no choice if one seeks more money. The govt will offer grants to those who wants to help themselves. As long as you qualify for a job and have the personality to match it, you will be hired. Even if you can't find a job here, your certificate will help you overseas, as a wealth manager in New York or air con mechanic in Australia.
Grocery
-----------
The govt had done their best to scout for the cheapest sources, and to cut down on the middlemen by buying direct from such sources. While our 3.5million population cannot fight against the international corporate shopkeepers who get better bulk discounts for billions of people such as Walmart, attempts had been made on inter-govt talks for better rates. Establishment of business ties with Russia, Vietnam, and Libya are such attempts.
As long as you buy what you need, and buy house brands, you will never starve in Singapore. Furthermore, if one is truly desperate and in need of food, CDC agencies will assist to issue food vouchers. If you do know of some family who is starving, please let them know our society will help them. They only need to approach our CDC centres and show that they are incapable of helping themselves, such as handicapped, or out of job, and help will be offered.
With all these help offered, it is hoped that the food bought is not wasted, and children must be taught not to waste their food.
Employment
--------------
In these times, attitudes are very important. While it is not necessary to beg or grovel before the bosses, there is also no need to take on a confrontational role with them. Without them, we will all have no jobs.
Reason and logic will move minds. Even if it doesnt, so long as we are proffesional in our duties and our work output is relevant and helps him in his profitability, there is no reason to get fired.
If one is retrenched, under our laws, he is protected and entitled to retrenchment benefits. With such monies, it would be wise to upgrade oneself mentally for other jobs that are avaliable in the market.
While the pay may be low in some firms, but if one shows his capability, he will be paid more in time. We are living in an era where capability is rewarded.
Entreprenuership
-------------------
After spending years on the job, and learning from it, one may consider taking the entreprenuership approach. In our country, there are no barriers to entry, saved your own desire and mental strength. Our govt offers grants to startup in critical and relevant industries, thus you will not stand alone. The only requirement is that you must have a sound plan as well as a capable team to help build up your company.
Recreation
--------------
Recreation costs had gone up. Thus there is a need to seek cheaper alternatives. All work and no play is not what our society wants. The beach, gardens and parks are still free.
Cinema tickets are cheaper during the workdays. Furthermore, there are cheap DVDs for rental as well.
Pubs are fun, but so can the neighbourhood coffee stalls as well. And it is much cheaper. $15 a mug of beer in pub vs $5.50 for a bottle in the heartlands.
Homes
---------
Prices of home had gone up. in 1970s, the first SIT flats costs only around $15,000 for a 3 room flat. But in those days, salaries were only around $800 a month and a cup of coffee costs only 30cts.
The world had changed, and costs of materials, which are largely imported, had gone up as well. And it will continue to spiral even for the next few generations to come.
Thus the rise in prices. But still, a HDB 3rm flat is much more cheaper than a similar sized 99 yr leased condo.
Times are hard, as it had been for our previous generations. While we have a better standard of living than some other nations, we can improve it for ourselves and the next generations, not by fighting one another over senseless issues, but critical ones that will elevate our lives further, as what our govt had been focussing on, and sadly, that which the opposition parties had been disconnected from.
If you have further ideas or solution that can help our fellow citizens, you are welcome to contribute to this thread. But if your intention is to whine and bitch, please open up your own thread.
Dear Hunter,
I think on balance your posts so far did not help very much to lessen or defuse the anger of citizens against wrongful policies of the government.
Many of the forumers have already replied your various ranting against them with better logic and substance. You have not taken up their good gestures. They patiently explained to you why and where government has been wrong in many of its policies without being personal. You have also read my views too why I regarded the leaders' continuing defamation suits against oppositions as wrong and counter-productive in the larger context of building an inclusive and caring society.
So please try to think over more prudently and providentially all these posts of substance and stopping insinuating (a word used by you against forumers) against fellow citizens with loyalty to the nation who are giving their one cent's worth to help in nation building. These are our valuable assets so stop calling them names or insinuating against them.
Your holier-than-thou attitude regarding all the policies of the government as posted here as right is something to be deployed. Your slamming of forumers with all kinds of name calling will not help at all now or in the future to win more goodwill for MM Lee or PM Lee. Such arrogance will only stoke more ill-feeling toward them unknowingly or unwittingly. We all know it is your job to come here even if you are pretending to be unconnected to government to appease any citizens incensed by many wrongful happenings from NKF problems to non-stop increases in costs of living to Mas Selamat.
If you want to do so by arrogance you will stoke up more ill-feeling and very few people will care to listen to you.
So please stop being so childish or slanderous or arrogance. It is counter-productive effort. You are wasting your time to try to out-wit or out-write or out-reason for finally the truths will prevail.
Think again and stop all the accusations and slandering. More more humble. Admit mistakes where mistakes are due. Do not be so paranoid. No body here is interesting in defaming or slandering anyone and they are loyal to Singapore and good citizens unless of course you want to push them up to liangshan.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Yup. If you have 10 cents, you will still be able to buy one sweet. With $1 you can buy 10 cents. Similarly, if we earn little, then we buy HDB. If we worked hard and get paid more, then buy a condo.
The MIW will "work" even harder to milk peasants more by charging even higher for homes and cars. Maybe the MIW really know how to "work" smart. They will then blame you for expecting too much when the first place is you want to earn more to obtain homes and cars. -
Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Finished with your rant and twisted logic? If so, i do believed you had your say. Run along now, and crawl back to your rubbish bin.
Twisted logic ?For one who will twist reason on its head to make poor justification for the factual events - and make excuses to hide the excesses and create an utopic fantasy - surely it needs a good twist of the logic to set reality back on course ?
Juveniles will always remain as a juvenile - when stumped by logic and simple common sense, all that a juvenile can do is to snap back in sharp retort.
Try a lollipop if your 'deerHunter' pop-gun fail to make the impact you try so hard to make with each useless thread that you start..
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For this we should think what's the reason for all the retrenchment and WHY FTs are getting our job .. Cos they are have a salary of one man but doing three man job? After everything FTs just pat pat their backside and go back to their homeland
Definitely not because they have the salary of one man but doing three man jobs. Singaporean employers will hv to consider the reservist of Singaporean males and maternity leave of Singaporean females in addition to the higher salary they have to provide.
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Originally posted by eagle:
Definitely not because they have the salary of one man but doing three man jobs. Singaporean employers will hv to consider the reservist of Singaporean males and maternity leave of Singaporean females in addition to the higher salary they have to provide.
I am speaking in general ..
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
I am speaking in general ..
Well, no matter Singaporean a not, if the person can work 3 person's job for 1 person's salary, he will definitely be preferentially employed over those who can't do the same, ceteris paribus. -
Originally posted by eagle:
Well, no matter Singaporean a not, if the person can work 3 person's job for 1 person's salary, he will definitely be preferentially employed over those who can't do the same, ceteris paribus.
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TS posts are so therotical..nothing much to be applied in practical world.
i also wan set up own business.no barrier ar??who give me capital to start??i wan sell arms to govts as it makes tons of money but they turned down my application. even threatened to charge me for terrorism.
i wan open pubs they say i opening brothel. very difficult lehz. wan open a gaming center but was told only govt can open casinos and im illegal.