LATEST: Mr LKY's Wife Critical ill
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Originally posted by mistyblue:
Its my policy:
If people are low life, don't become a low life like them.
Be noble and stand up for the right things.
Here, its a fact that Mrs Lee is very old and very sick. Being realistic, she will pass on.whatever happens to her, is of her life. I think it should be separate from the doings of the son and husband.
Misty, even if we want to be low life.. we can never go as low as what the Lees are doing.
And what one do now will directly or indirectly affect the people around that one.
Life is not a straight line. You shoot one bullet and kill someone.. that someone's father may shoot a bullet and kill your children. This is the harsh reality.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Misty, even if we want to be low life.. we can never go as low as what the Lees are doing.
And what one do now will directly or indirectly affect the people around that one.
Life is not a straight line. You shoot one bullet and kill someone.. that someone's father may shoot a bullet and kill your children. This is the harsh reality.
Just becos of one man lky millions of Singaporeans are affected. how evil this old man is yet there are people choose to be blind and deaf about the evil of this man and blame others.
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Originally posted by mistyblue:
Its my policy:
If people are low life, don't become a low life like them.
Be noble and stand up for the right things.
Here, its a fact that Mrs Lee is very old and very sick. Being realistic, she will pass on.whatever happens to her, is of her life. I think it should be separate from the doings of the son and husband.
It's my policy to return in kind be it kindness or evil.For others I probably would not have exact the same as LKY, but after I heard him sniggering over the plight of CSJ's kids, it totally changed me.
You do not show mercy to Satan and his servants.
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
It's my policy to return in kind be it kindness or evil.For others I probably would not have exact the same as LKY, but after I heard him sniggering over the plight of CSJ's kids, it totally changed me.
You do not show mercy to Satan and his servants.
You do not show mercy to Satan and his servants. ----> this is a good one.
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
Ordinarily if this happened to others I would not have sniggered or gloated over his immediate family's demise. But there is precedence to this sniggering, he has sniggered over his political enemies predicament before, so I guess it's alright to snigger at him. Even when I snigger, I am only sniggering at him.
I wonder if CSJ is sniggering at him now.
Political ideologies aside. I am no supporter of CSJ, but I think it's just despicable that LKY sniggered at CSJ when CSJ told him that he is a bankrupt and with 3 children to look after.
CSJ: You don't know what it means to be a bankrupt, I have 3 young children to take care of.
LKY: (Snickering Laugh)
From 1:50 to 1:55 of:
http://www.yoursdp.org/sound/3a-you-asked-yesterday-thru-that-is-the-difference.mp3
What kind of leader delights and mocks at another person's plight???
http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/321604
Whatever wrong someone does, it is not right to laugh at their plight or downfall.
I am taking the humanist stand. If someone applauds LKY's wife being ill and wishes LKY to die, I will despise that person.
Likewise, if someone laughs because CSJ gets striken with illness, I will also despise the person.
I do not care which political stand you take. To celebrate and gloat over someone's downfall is just downright, morally wrong. And if you cannot see that, then I have nothing more to say.
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Originally posted by mistyblue:
Yeah ... karma is there regardless of status, power, wealth and health. This is what makes it powerful. Its alright what people want to think. Its their choice that's why I state my personal stand point.
But the karma of most here who delight in their death are non-selfish by nature.There is a difference between selfish karma and selfless karma.
One important aspect of the law of karma is that selfishness results in suffering for the selfish party in proportion to the amount of wrong that has been committed.
http://www.mahidol.ac.th/budsir/buddhism.htm
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Originally posted by Itedino:
One person Talk rubbish
Two Person say the same thing. A bit suspect.
When dozen or more say the same thing. it is truth.
On the front, be yourself. Rohanda, some people comments might be misleading but to the extend of gloating.
LKY is really drawing too much pay than other minister or even US president.
If he donate out like H.K Lee Kah Shing. I salute him. otherwise,......
You're expecting him to act in a charitable manner when you yourself don't.
You're saying you won't respect him unless he does something. But you yourself do not deserve respect IF you are part of the hooligans who are laughing because someone is on her deathbed and her spouse is heartbroken and mourning the impending loss of his long-time companion.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Whatever wrong someone does, it is not right to laugh at their plight or downfall.
I am taking the humanist stand. If someone applauds LKY's wife being ill and wishes LKY to die, I will despise that person.
Likewise, if someone laughs because CSJ gets striken with illness, I will also despise the person.
I do not care which political stand you take. To celebrate and gloat over someone's downfall is just downright, morally wrong. And if you cannot see that, then I have nothing more to say.
You make yourself so perfect, "clap clap". YOu have problem facing the reality of life? Are you a saint, a perfect saint? Come on, in life there bound to be good and evil and this is the reality and fact you have to accept it if not you are making yourself miserable.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Misty, even if we want to be low life.. we can never go as low as what the Lees are doing.
And what one do now will directly or indirectly affect the people around that one.
Life is not a straight line. You shoot one bullet and kill someone.. that someone's father may shoot a bullet and kill your children. This is the harsh reality.
Its their choice. But sometimes, we might not see what they see ... don't be so fast to shoot people down. And its not worth it getting worked up over people like the Lees and what they do. There is no point at all.I am also not asking you to be a saint and wish them well. Its also no point. But all these things are transient. Just wait it out, like you say, there's twists in life.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Whatever wrong someone does, it is not right to laugh at their plight or downfall.
I am taking the humanist stand. If someone applauds LKY's wife being ill and wishes LKY to die, I will despise that person.
Likewise, if someone laughs because CSJ gets striken with illness, I will also despise the person.
I do not care which political stand you take. To celebrate and gloat over someone's downfall is just downright, morally wrong. And if you cannot see that, then I have nothing more to say.
I understand what you getting at, it's what I firmly believe in to. But for LKY and his immediate family, it just does not apply to me. Birds of a feather flock together, it's their just deserve. You do not show mercy to Satan and his dominions.What do you think of LKY sniggering at the plight of CSJ elaborating the facts that he had to take care of his 3 young children despite being a bankrupt?
I always have this policy of returning in kind the deeds or misdeeds that others commit against you. Though the misdeed of sniggering wasn't commited against me, but I felt compassion for CSJ's children. Perhaps the passing of LKY and his regime will bode well for the young children of CSJ. It's heavens way of exacting justice to a dictator.
CSJ: You don't know what it means to be a bankrupt, I have 3 young children to take care of.
LKY: (Snickering Laugh)
From 1:50 to 1:55 of:
http://www.yoursdp.org/sound/3a-you-asked-yesterday-thru-that-is-the-difference.mp3
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
You're expecting him to act in a charitable manner when you yourself don't.
You're saying you won't respect him unless he does something. But you yourself do not deserve respect IF you are part of the hooligans who are laughing because someone is on her deathbed and her spouse is heartbroken and mourning the impending loss of his long-time companion.
Are you a pastor? Are you without sins? Judge yourself and not others.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Whatever wrong someone does, it is not right to laugh at their plight or downfall.
I am taking the humanist stand. If someone applauds LKY's wife being ill and wishes LKY to die, I will despise that person.
Likewise, if someone laughs because CSJ gets striken with illness, I will also despise the person.
I do not care which political stand you take. To celebrate and gloat over someone's downfall is just downright, morally wrong. And if you cannot see that, then I have nothing more to say.
"Whatever wrong someone does, it is not right to laugh at their plight or downfall. "
Why don't you go tell LKY this sentence ?
If he doesn't give you a good lecture.. I applaud you.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
"Whatever wrong someone does, it is not right to laugh at their plight or downfall. "
Why don't you go tell LKY this sentence ?
If he doesn't give you a good lecture.. I applaud you.
jo, i think this forumer is in fairytale land.
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He is like the Satan of Singapore, he imprisoned so many political prisoners without trial under ISA. One political prisoner was detained for 32 years.
Do you expect mercy from a family that approves of such acts?
Do you think that Satan and his immediate family does not derive benefits as a result of his status?
Do you think that all of them don't have blood stained hands?
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
He is like the Satan of Singapore, he imprisoned so many political prisoners without trial under ISA. One political prisoner was detained for 32 years.
Do you expect mercy from a family that approves of such acts?
Do you think that Satan and his immediate family does not derive benefits as a result of his status?
Do you think that all of them don't have blood stained hands?
There are just people who simply refuse to see the ugliness and evil of LKY and continue to condone his evil. Really evil.
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Originally posted by Civilgoh:
You make yourself so perfect, "clap clap". YOu have problem facing the reality of life? Are you a saint, a perfect saint? Come on, in life there bound to be good and evil and this is the reality and fact you have to accept it if not you are making yourself miserable.
Oh stop your snotty applause.
Forumites who know me know I am hardly a saint.
You speak as if you hold the universal truth in your hands, but listen to you spouting all that rubbish and essentially getting your high from someone who's ill and on her deathbed. You cannot be human if you can see someone so pale and ill and still say such despiseful, despicable things.
I am definitely no saint. I have a list of people I hate. And in my anger and pettiness, I will say bad stuff and curse and swear. BUT if they ever do become ill, or get involved in an accident or be harmed in any manner, I will shut up and feel a bit sad for them.
That is being human. It has got absolutely nothing to do with being a saint or facing the reality of life, or making the self miserable or whatever.
Can you even grasp that?
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Oh stop your snotty applause.
Forumites who know me know I am hardly a saint.
You speak as if you hold the universal truth in your hands, but listen to you spouting all that rubbish and essentially getting your high from someone who's ill and on her deathbed. You cannot be human if you can see someone so pale and ill and still say such despiseful, despicable things.
I am definitely no saint. I have a list of people I hate. And in my anger and pettiness, I will say bad stuff and curse and swear. BUT if they ever do become ill, or get involved in an accident or be harmed in any manner, I will shut up and feel a bit sad for them.
That is being human. It has got absolutely nothing to do with being a saint or facing the reality of life, or making the self miserable or whatever.
Can you even grasp that?
hey, if you are not a saint and hate people so don't point fingers when the anger of people are justified.
but listen to you spouting all that rubbish and essentially getting your high from someone who's ill and on her deathbed. - so point to me where in this thread I said these. DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. If you have problem of understanding, it is your problem, don't impose your problem on me and others. If you want to make yourself a saint to point fingers you need not act blur, blind and deaf.
If you so concern, instead of attacking the people here, go TTSH and pray for her. Prove it.
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Rhonda,
If any of his family members were just and did not condone his actions of imprisoning politcal detainees for serveral decades, they would have long severed relationship with him. They are guilty of the misdeeds as him. They derive benefits as a result of his status.
Two quotes from "The Count of Monte Cristo" which I think aptly summarise this situation.
Abbe Faria: When I told them I had no idea where Count Spada hid his treasure, I lied.
Edmond: You lied?
Abbe Faria: I'm a priest, not a saint.Fernand: What happened to your mercy?
Edmond Dantes: I'm a count, not a saint.
I am a commoner, not a saint.
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I think what she's saying is that Death is a very serios thing... Its not something to wish upon another and its not something that one should rejoyce over. But it depends on individual points of view.
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Ah... so that's how the extremely verbose empty vessels of SC fight their battles... "if you can't win them, sling personal abuse and insults at them!"
I'll leave you guys to your celebrations. Being humane is not a subject that you can teach, unfortunately.
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Originally posted by mistyblue:
I think what she's saying is that Death is a very serios thing... Its not something to wish upon another and its not something that one should rejoyce over. But it depends on individual points of view.
We are all commoners, we are not saints.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Ah... so that's how the extremely verbose empty vessels of SC fight their battles... "if you can't win them, sling personal abuse and insults at them!"
I'll leave you guys to your celebrations. Being humane is not a subject that you can teach, unfortunately.
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Nah.. just having some fun at the expense of the great LKY.
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Someone who has showed no mercy to all, yet we ask that mercy be shown to him and his family.
How ironic can life be?
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Someone is leaving it to the forumers here after failing to convince forumers with her words.
Hey, people who expect others to show mercy to LKY are just craps.
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Originally posted by Civilgoh:
Someone is leaving it to the forumers here after failing to convince forumers with her words.
Hey, people who expect others to show mercy to LKY are just craps.
I see her perspective too. It is despicable to gloat and rejoice at another person's death. BUT for LKY and his family it just doesn't apply.