Originally posted by maurizio13:
I see her perspective too. It is despicable to gloat and rejoice at another person's death. BUT for LKY and his family it just doesn't apply.
I am not one who gloat over the death and rejoice at the death of people but to LKY I will for he is so evil. Actually, I wish he goes hell first rather than the wife. LKY deserves to die first. The wife quite poor thing to suffer like that.
Rhonda,
Those opposition politicians that LKY imprisoned without trial for decades. The family of those opposition politicians, they suffered the plight of not having a husband and father by their side, facing trying issues on their own. Do you think that LKY and his family members showed any mercy or remorse?
Hypothetically, say you are the wife of a tyrant, you see all these atrocities, but you stayed by his side to enjoy the luxuries that comes with his status and power. Would you as a moral person not have left him? If you stayed behind to enjoy all those luxuries and power that comes from his deeds. Aren't you guilty to those deeds as him?
Originally posted by maurizio13:Rhonda,
Those opposition politicians that LKY imprisoned without trial for decades. The family of those opposition politicians, they suffered the plight of not having a husband and father by their side, facing trying issues on their own. Do you think that LKY and his family members showed any mercy or remorse?
Hypothetically, say you are the wife of a tyrant, you see all these atrocities, but you stayed by his side to enjoy the luxuries that comes with his status and power. Would you as a moral person not have left him? If you stayed behind to enjoy all those luxuries and power that comes from his deeds. Aren't you guilty to those deeds as him?
The wife is also a lawyer.
Who is to say she plays no part in encouraging LKY's decision to cause much hardship to the oppositions via the abuse of our law system ?
Originally posted by jojobeach:The wife is also a lawyer.
Who is to say she plays no part in encouraging LKY's decision to cause much hardship to the oppositions via the abuse of our law system ?
She wrote script for the husband and has been earning lots of $$$$ from the people of Singapore. The whole lee family bloodsucking the people of Singapore.
Anyone heard that LHL's son and minister's son went army and become Officer even though they are not qualify. That time instead of seeking through proper channel to complain. He complained via the newspaper. I really dunno why is he doing this.
I agreed that politics are very dirty. U need to be ruthless before you can climb to the top position. Even killings are not spared.
Originally posted by Itedino:Anyone heard that LHL's son and minister's son went army and become Officer even though they are not qualify. That time instead of seeking through proper channel to complain. He complained via the newspaper. I really dunno why is he doing this.
I agreed that politics are very dirty. U need to be ruthless before you can climb to the top position. Even killings are not spared.
There is no equality here in Singapore, so long you belong to the lky's family and relatives you have priority over other people. WKS though need to be responsible is so protected.
Is it true that this piece of Mrs lky's news is on the front page of STs today? Heard she is unconscious, true?
Wow this topic is so hot and juicy that it has turn into a debate about saint and commoners!
Actually I wonder will their pressence there cause inconvenience to commoners who are seeking treatment there or not.
Hmm.
Originally posted by Itedino:Anyone heard that LHL's son and minister's son went army and become Officer even though they are not qualify. That time instead of seeking through proper channel to complain. He complained via the newspaper. I really dunno why is he doing this.
I agreed that politics are very dirty. U need to be ruthless before you can climb to the top position. Even killings are not spared.
You refering to Hongyi? Actually I support his action leh. He did go through proper channel, but the proper channels ended up covering up for one another and he jit pa boom.
Commoner LTA cannot perform such stunt one. Think will get de-commissioned and throw into DB or what.
Originally posted by yamizi:Wow this topic is so hot and juicy that it has turn into a debate about saint and commoners!
Actually I wonder will their pressence there cause inconvenience to commoners who are seeking treatment there or not.
Hmm.
To certain extent it will. I will PM you tell you something.
I think this is it. The woman will soon become fertilizer.
I'm very glad for that old fart. He will be free to have a younger girlfriend to satisfy a man's desires, you know.
Let's matchmake the miserable old fart with, ah who ar, berlinda...hmm hmm
What goes around comes around! Karma *ROAR*!!
Originally posted by maurizio13:Rhonda,
Those opposition politicians that LKY imprisoned without trial for decades. The family of those opposition politicians, they suffered the plight of not having a husband and father by their side, facing trying issues on their own. Do you think that LKY and his family members showed any mercy or remorse?
Hypothetically, say you are the wife of a tyrant, you see all these atrocities, but you stayed by his side to enjoy the luxuries that comes with his status and power. Would you as a moral person not have left him? If you stayed behind to enjoy all those luxuries and power that comes from his deeds. Aren't you guilty to those deeds as him?
Ya!!Yes,includeChia Thye Poh,....etc
But they refuse to sign letter they will give up or denounce
armed struggles.
Their reasons is,may be among other reasons,that THEY NEVER
HAVE ARMED STRUGGLE OR VIOLENCE INTENTIONS!!
So,how can they give up one thing that they never had!!
If u are LKY,whay would u do?
Pl take a good look what were the situations in 1950 to 1970's
in SEA.PRC only stopped giving materials and morale
supports after Teng Xiu Peng visted Singapore in circa1978.
PRC boardcasted,including coded message,from Yunan
until early 1980's.
Read Malaysia Communist Party also.
Would FBI release one that threat to kill US President?
There is no such thing as equality worldwide
Originally posted by lionnoisy:Ya!!Yes,includeChia Thye Poh,....etc
But they refuse to sign letter they will give up or denounce
armed struggles.
Their reasons is,may be among other reasons,that THEY NEVER
HAVE ARMED STRUGGLE OR VIOLENCE INTENTIONS!!
So,how can they give up one thing that they never had!!
If u are LKY,whay would u do?
Pl take a good look what were the situations in 1950 to 1970's
in SEA.PRC only stopped giving materials and morale
supports after Teng Xiu Peng visted Singapore in circa1978.
PRC boardcasted,including coded message,from Yunan
until early 1980's.
Read Malaysia Communist Party also.
Would FBI release one that threat to kill US President?
Maybe you can get someone to correct for you before posting. Seriously, I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
The long term imprisonment isn't just limited to Chia Thye Poh alone. All his political opponents met with similar fate. Long term imprisonment or being made bankrupt or charges of tax evasion. Families forced into exile.
Originally posted by mistyblue:There is no such thing as equality worldwide
True, then don't expect others to judge him equally on your scale.
Originally posted by mistyblue:There is no such thing as equality worldwide
So you think there is absence of evil from lky that justify him to be treating his family more equal than others?
Originally posted by maurizio13:Rhonda,
Those opposition politicians that LKY imprisoned without trial for decades. The family of those opposition politicians, they suffered the plight of not having a husband and father by their side, facing trying issues on their own. Do you think that LKY and his family members showed any mercy or remorse?
Hypothetically, say you are the wife of a tyrant, you see all these atrocities, but you stayed by his side to enjoy the luxuries that comes with his status and power. Would you as a moral person not have left him? If you stayed behind to enjoy all those luxuries and power that comes from his deeds. Aren't you guilty to those deeds as him?
What a evil regime !!! yep LKY deserve to go to hell for building so evil a regime !! - that people here house, electricity, jobs and such that they even educated enough to use computer and have fucking free time to even come here and do evil curses and swears at a dying old woman !!! isn't this a damn evil regime indeed.
Maybe without him, there be no evil regime - people will be still uneducated, go oversea to be labors or maids .... yep at less they be too uneducate and not free to come online to do evil curse and swear to a dying old lady...!!!
The plight of thousand of maid ? they suffered the plight of not having a wife and mother by their side, facing trying issues on their own. Do you think that those that hire maids showed any mercy or remorse. No it is not their fault - it is LKY fault - he created too good a life for Singaporeans - that we can get neighbours country people over to be our maid !!! Without him = no maids, you do all things on your own.... so he the cause of all the evils !!!
who voted for him ? Would you as a moral person vote for him? If you voted to enjoy all those luxuries and power that comes from his deeds. Aren't you guilty to those deeds as him?
Yes he indeed have created a true evil regime. That is so evil that they are so free to curse a old lady at her death bed.
Originally posted by storywolf:
What a evil regime !!! yep LKY deserve to go to hell for build so evil a regime !! - that people here house, electricity, jobs and such that they even educated enough to use computer and have fucking free time to even come here and do evil curses and swears at a dying old woman !!! isn't this a damn evil regime indeed.
Maybe without him, there be no evil regime - people will be still uneducated, go oversea to be labors or maids .... yep at less they be too uneducate and not free to come online to do evil curse and swear to a dying old lady...!!!
The plight of thousand of maid ? they suffered the plight of not having a wife and mother by their side, facing trying issues on their own. Do you think that those that hire maids showed any mercy or remorse. No it is not their fault - it is LKY fault - he created too good a life for Singaporeans - that we can get neighbours country people over to be our maid !!! Without him = no maids, you do all things on your own.... so he the cause of all the evils !!!
who voted for him ? Would you as a moral person vote for him? If you voted to enjoy all those luxuries and power that comes from his deeds. Aren't you guilty to those deeds as him?
Singapore without LKY might have even ended up surpassing that of Hong Kong. Hong Kong faced the same resource constraints as Singapore in the 1960s. Did Hong Kong ended up with uneducated, ended up as maids and labourers overseas? Without LKY, the sun will still rise from the east and set in the west, the world still revolves around the sun.
I surely didn't vote for him. ![]()
Having direct knowledge about his evil doings is different from those who voted for him as a result of his brainwashing propaganda. His family has private knowledge, while the public relying on news and TV propaganda don't.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Singapore without LKY might have even ended up surpassing that of Hong Kong. Hong Kong faced the same resource constraints as Singapore in the 1960s. Did Hong Kong ended up with uneducated, ended up as maids and labourers overseas? Without LKY, the sun will still rise from the east and set in the west, the world still revolves around the sun.
I surely didn't vote for him.
Having direct knowledge about his evil doings is different from those who voted for him as a result of his brainwashing propaganda. His family has private knowledge, while the public relying on news and TV propaganda don't.
No politician is indispensable. LKY thinks too highly of himself.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Singapore without LKY might have even ended up surpassing that of Hong Kong. Hong Kong faced the same resource constraints as Singapore in the 1960s. Did Hong Kong ended up with uneducated, ended up as maids and labourers overseas? Without LKY, the sun will still rise from the east and set in the west, the world still revolves around the sun.
I surely didn't vote for him.
Having direct knowledge about his evil doings is different from those who voted for him as a result of his brainwashing propaganda. His family has private knowledge, while the public relying on news and TV propaganda don't.
to put it simply, in business, let the businessmen run business.
in governance of country, let the civil administrator keep the country humming.
here, PAP keeps trying to fit a `round peg in a square hole'. you have side-parting brycreemed technocrats trying to be investors, shape the sports scene in singapore, elevate the arts culture here, etc. no wonder we now ends up having to buy success instead because our men at the top is clueless with what they are doing.
Originally posted by Civilgoh:
So you think there is absence of evil from lky that justify him to be treating his family more equal than others?
Yesterday i was watching Brainiac on Art Central. They tried to prove whether a pretty girl or a dumpy girl gets help on her heavy luggage. The guys simply offer help to the pretty girl every single time while no one bothered to help the ugly one.
If your family is sick, you also will do your best to get better treatment to your family than others. I see that kind of behaviour everyday in everyone. People just wanting the best for themselves and their family. Who can justify if its right or not? It depends on whose point of view as well. Its not possible to ask these people at the top to know what is happening down below when all the information they get through their kah-kia who beautify the details and mask out some of these things from them. EG: when the "transport minister" takes the train, the whole train is booked for him and its totally empty. How will he ever know how its like during peak hour? It was not until LHL saw the state of the trains when he was travelling to an event that he saw for himself the over packed trains that he told the transport service to do something about it.
I think I am not evil.
I think the general population is not evil.
Maybe a bit inconsiderate lah.
Originally posted by mistyblue:Yesterday i was watching Brainiac on Art Central. They tried to prove whether a pretty girl or a dumpy girl gets help on her heavy luggage. The guys simply offer help to the pretty girl every single time while no one bothered to help the ugly one.
If your family is sick, you also will do your best to get better treatment to your family than others. I see that kind of behaviour everyday in everyone. People just wanting the best for themselves and their family. Who can justify if its right or not? It depends on whose point of view as well. Its not possible to ask these people at the top to know what is happening down below when all the information they get through their kah-kia who beautify the details and mask out some of these things from them. EG: when the "transport minister" takes the train, the whole train is booked for him and its totally empty. How will he ever know how its like during peak hour? It was not until LHL saw the state of the trains when he was travelling to an event that he saw for himself the over packed trains that he told the transport service to do something about it.
There is no wrong in providing the best for one's family.
One can have the idea of providing the best for one's family, but not at the expense of hurting another person's life or family.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
There is no wrong in providing the best for one's family.One can have the idea of providing the best for one's family, but not at the expense of hurting another person's life or family.
maybe they didn't think they are hurting anyone.I am not pro-any party but I think most of it is human nature and the inability to let go.
Originally posted by mistyblue:maybe they didn't think they are hurting anyone.I am not pro-any party but I think most of it is human nature and the inability to let go.
you lock somebody for decades, can't expect no implications to his family members.
it's human nature that those with power and wealth tend to succumb to it's evils.
that's why virtuous people are needed to run governments, not money and power hungry politicians.