Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:Maurizio, we have read what you have posted and I dont think there is any need for you to bring this up because the two country in concern doesnt qualify to be a non oil producing developed country.
1) Taiwan do produce their own oil from their own oil field
2) Thailand is not a developed country
Btw, what do you think of the flying frog method of comparing petrol affordability? Would like to hear what you have to say.
How much oil does Taiwan produce? Or do they even produce crude oil at all.
The DPP's proposal has won the backing of ruling Kuomintang legislators. Chang Hsien-yao, a KMT caucus leader, pointed out that Taiwan does not produce oil, but has to rely on imports for all crude oil and gasoline products.
Either you are talking crap or the KMT caucus leader was talking crap.
Japan = SG$1.4385 per litre
(USD4.004 per US gallon, USD1 =SG$1.36, 1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres)
South Korea = SG$1.50 per litre
(USD4.189 per US gallon, USD1 = SG$1.36, 1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres)
Gas prices up 5 cents in S. Korea; Japan at $4
By Jennifer H. Svan, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Saturday, June 21, 2008
Gas prices at AAFES and NEX pumps on bases in Japan and Okinawa will top $4 a gallon for the first time Saturday, three weeks after South Korea and Guam surpassed the mark.
Midgrade unleaded gas in Japan and Okinawa will cost motorists $4.004 a gallon after midnight Friday, a jump of nearly five cents from the previous week, according to the Army and Air Force Exchange Service. Navy Exchange prices follow those set by AAFES.
Regular unleaded gas, meanwhile, continues to climb in South Korea and Guam, where prices Saturday were to rise 5 cents to $4.147 and $4.189 a gallon, respectively.
Premium unleaded also increases slightly, to $4.379 a gallon in South Korea, and $4.419 in Guam.
Diesel fuel, where sold, will remain unchanged across the board: $4.497 per gallon in Japan and Okinawa, and $4.757 in South Korea.
At Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, where Marine Corps Community Services controls gasoline sales, the price remains at $3.47 per gallon for unleaded. The price has been unchanged since December.
The record prices at AAFES and NEX pumps mirror stateside trends. The U.S. average retail price for regular gasoline rose for the twelfth consecutive week, up 4.3 cents a gallon to $4.082, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Taiwan = SG$1.51 per litre (USD 1 = SGD1.36)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific_business/view/350428/1/.html
Maurizio, have you read this article I posted earlier? According to Oil and Gas Journal, not politician, Taiwan do have oil reserves (and LNG too) and their estimated oil production was about 880bbl/day. Beside that, are you also aware that CPC, their government owned petrol companies are also involved in many oil exploration projects in Africa and Asia region?
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/taiwan.html
As for the petrol price of Korea which you have indicated, may I suggest that you varify your numbers again because the information I got is alot higher than what you have presented.
Are you certain that Japan is not a oil producing country?
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:Maurizio, have you read this article I posted earlier? According to Oil and Gas Journal, not politician, Taiwan do have oil reserves (and LNG too) and their estimated oil production was about 880bbl/day. Beside that, are you also aware that CPC, their government owned petrol companies are also involved in many oil exploration projects in Africa and Asia region?
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/taiwan.html
As for the petrol price of Korea which you have indicated, may I suggest that you varify your numbers again because the information I got is alot higher than what you have presented.
Are you certain that Japan is not a oil producing country?
You sheepishly omitted some facts from your link. The estimates were done in January 1st of 2005, their proven oil reserves were 4 million barrels, oil production is 8,404 barrles per day. The oil reserves will last 476 day, which is less than 1.5 years. It is currently end of June 2008 (3.5 years), you sure Taiwan still has oil reserves? Are you living in the past?
Also in past (which is not relevant now), they produced 8,404 barrels a day, they consumed 1,045,000 barrels a day, they produced 0.8% of what they consumed, 99.2% of their domestic oil consumption has to be imported. What is your feeble logic of saying that since a country produces 0.8%, they are not to be used as comparison? Are you telling us that you can sell 0.8 barrels of oil to subsidise 99.2 barrels of oil? If you can, please enlighten us, we might be on the forefront of a new mathematical discovery.
"According to January 1, 2005 estimates by the Oil and Gas Journal, Taiwan's proven oil reserves are approximately 4 million barrels. Total oil production for 2005 is expected to be 8,404 bbl/d, of which 800 bbl/d is crude. Oil consumption for 2005 is estimated at 1,045,000 bbl/d. The majority of the oil is consumed by the industrial sector. Most of Taiwan's crude oil imports come from the Persian Gulf, though West African countries also are important suppliers. To prevent supply disruptions, Taiwan's refiners are under a regulatory requirement to maintain stocks of no less than 30 days of consumption. Refiner-held strategic petroleum stocks are the norm in Asia, and Taiwan's policy is similar to those of Japan and South Korea."
I am still waiting for your reply to Japan and South Korea.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
You sheepishly omitted some facts from your link. The estimates were done in January 1st of 2005, their proven oil reserves were 4 million barrels, oil production is 8,404 barrles per day. The oil reserves will last 476 day, which is less than 1.5 years. It is currently end of June 2008 (3.5 years), you sure Taiwan still has oil reserves? Are you living in the past?
Also in past (which is not relevant now), they produced 8,404 barrels a day, they consumed 1,045,000 barrels a day, they produced 0.8% of what they consumed, 99.2% of their domestic oil consumption has to be imported. What is your feeble logic of saying that since a country produces 0.8%, they are not to be used as comparison? Are you telling us that you can sell 0.8 barrels of oil to subsidise 99.2 barrels of oil? If you can, please enlighten us, we might be on the forefront of a new mathematical discovery.
"According to January 1, 2005 estimates by the Oil and Gas Journal, Taiwan's proven oil reserves are approximately 4 million barrels. Total oil production for 2005 is expected to be 8,404 bbl/d, of which 800 bbl/d is crude. Oil consumption for 2005 is estimated at 1,045,000 bbl/d. The majority of the oil is consumed by the industrial sector. Most of Taiwan's crude oil imports come from the Persian Gulf, though West African countries also are important suppliers. To prevent supply disruptions, Taiwan's refiners are under a regulatory requirement to maintain stocks of no less than 30 days of consumption. Refiner-held strategic petroleum stocks are the norm in Asia, and Taiwan's policy is similar to those of Japan and South Korea."
I am still waiting for your reply to Japan and South Korea.
Maurizio, this thread is talking about non-oil producing developed country, hence why do you keep coming back to use Taiwan and Thailand as an example? Non-oil producing country = a country who doesnt have oil reserves, e.g. Singapore, please dont confused yourself with net oil exporter.
As for Japan, I have already asked you to check if Japan is an oil producing country.
And for Korea, I am giving your a chance to reconfirm the petrol price S$1.50 per litre
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:Maurizio, this thread is talking about non-oil producing developed country, hence why do you keep coming back to use Taiwan and Thailand as an example? Non-oil producing country = a country who doesnt have oil reserves, e.g. Singapore, please dont confused yourself with net oil exporter.
As for Japan, I have already asked you to check if Japan is an oil producing country.
And for Korea, I am giving your a chance to reconfirm the petrol price S$1.50 per litre
how many countries are non-oil producing developed countries in the first place...
might as well say name you a non-oil producing country 136.8 km north of the equator, between longitudes 103 degrees 38' E and 104 degrees 06' E that has cheaper petrol than singapore.. lame one leh.. u narrow ur discussion until this extent and just to proclaim singapore is not as worse off as others.. zzz..
and by m13 calculations, taiwan will have no more oil reserves now.. no?
Originally posted by purpledragon84:how many countries are non-oil producing developed countries in the first place...
might as well say name you a non-oil producing country 136.8 km north of the equator, between longitudes 103 degrees 38' E and 104 degrees 06' E that has cheaper petrol than singapore.. lame one leh.. u narrow ur discussion until this extent and just to proclaim singapore is not as worse off as others.. zzz..
and by m13 calculations, taiwan will have no more oil reserves now.. no?
If you want to regards M13 as your father or GOD, that is your personal choice, please dont use that as a FACT in this discussion.
The reason why you find it hard to come out with an example of non-oil producing developed countries is because of your lack of knowledge.
Hi M 13,
How come u know so much about us in Taiwan?
Originally posted by purpledragon84:how many countries are non-oil producing developed countries in the first place...
might as well say name you a non-oil producing country 136.8 km north of the equator, between longitudes 103 degrees 38' E and 104 degrees 06' E that has cheaper petrol than singapore.. lame one leh.. u narrow ur discussion until this extent and just to proclaim singapore is not as worse off as others.. zzz..
and by m13 calculations, taiwan will have no more oil reserves now.. no?
Everyone realised that TS is merely a moron who is all talk only.
Not so long ago, he claimed
Are you ready to defend your theory if I start questioning you?
Then he spouts some more nonsense when challenged. ![]()
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How can we expect someone who cannot even distinguish time difference properly to discuss properly about prices? ![]()
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Originally posted by eagle:Everyone realised that TS is merely a moron who is all talk only.
Not so long ago, he claimed
Then he spouts some more nonsense when challenged.
How can we expect someone who cannot even distinguish time difference properly to discuss properly about prices?
Even the Taiwanese KMT caucus leader is wrong. ![]()
All the news articles are wrong. ![]()
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
If you want to regards M13 as your father or GOD, that is your personal choice, please dont use that as a FACT in this discussion.The reason why you find it hard to come out with an example of non-oil producing developed countries is because of your lack of knowledge.
lol.. i dun regardS anyone in this forum as my father or GOD.. lol..
and y hide the fact that u are limiting ur scope? lame..
Originally posted by maurizio13:
£ Ĭ €Ú° is always right everybody else in this forum is wrong.
Even the Taiwanese KMT caucus leader is wrong.
All the news articles are wrong.
I am wondering why Maurizio has suddenly switch from talking about Japan and Korea to Taiwanese politician.
We are still waiting for you to tell us if Japan is an oil producing country and if Korea petrol price is S$1.50 per litre as you have proudly claimed.
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
I am wondering why Maurizio has suddenly switch from talking about Japan and Korea to Taiwanese politician.We are still waiting for you to tell us if Japan is an oil producing country and if Korea petrol price is S$1.50 per litre as you have proudly claimed.
How much oil does Taiwan produce? Or do they even produce crude oil at all.
The DPP's proposal has won the backing of ruling Kuomintang legislators. Chang Hsien-yao, a KMT caucus leader, pointed out that Taiwan does not produce oil, but has to rely on imports for all crude oil and gasoline products.
Either you are talking crap or the KMT caucus leader was talking crap.
Japan = SG$1.4385 per litre
(USD4.004 per US gallon, USD1 =SG$1.36, 1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres)
South Korea = SG$1.50 per litre
(USD4.189 per US gallon, USD1 = SG$1.36, 1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres)
Gas prices up 5 cents in S. Korea; Japan at $4
By Jennifer H. Svan, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Saturday, June 21, 2008
Gas prices at AAFES and NEX pumps on bases in Japan and Okinawa will top $4 a gallon for the first time Saturday, three weeks after South Korea and Guam surpassed the mark.
Midgrade unleaded gas in Japan and Okinawa will cost motorists $4.004 a gallon after midnight Friday, a jump of nearly five cents from the previous week, according to the Army and Air Force Exchange Service. Navy Exchange prices follow those set by AAFES.
Regular unleaded gas, meanwhile, continues to climb in South Korea and Guam, where prices Saturday were to rise 5 cents to $4.147 and $4.189 a gallon, respectively.
Premium unleaded also increases slightly, to $4.379 a gallon in South Korea, and $4.419 in Guam.
Diesel fuel, where sold, will remain unchanged across the board: $4.497 per gallon in Japan and Okinawa, and $4.757 in South Korea.
At Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, where Marine Corps Community Services controls gasoline sales, the price remains at $3.47 per gallon for unleaded. The price has been unchanged since December.
The record prices at AAFES and NEX pumps mirror stateside trends. The U.S. average retail price for regular gasoline rose for the twelfth consecutive week, up 4.3 cents a gallon to $4.082, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Taiwan = SG$1.51 per litre (USD 1 = SGD1.36)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific_business/view/350428/1/.html
Your logic being if Japan produced 1% of crude oil, they use the 1% to subsidise the 99% consumption?
Please explain the logic of your line of questioning first.
I am still waiting for the figures you claim to have which states that Japan and South Korea have higher petrol prices.
I was merely elaborating your stupidity to new forumers here when I said everybody else in this forum is wrong, Taiwanese KMT caucus leader is wrong and the News is wrong. You are the the "smartest" person is this forum.
M13, u r a very knowledgeable guy and your posts are full of substance unlike the God!!!
I think u know who m I now (God= dog)? We went over to TW last year for KMT election campaign and we won by a big margin and in power now!!!!
Originally posted by maurizio13:
How much oil does Taiwan produce? Or do they even produce crude oil at all.Either you are talking crap or the KMT caucus leader was talking crap.
Japan = SG$1.4385 per litre
(USD4.004 per US gallon, USD1 =SG$1.36, 1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres)
South Korea = SG$1.50 per litre
(USD4.189 per US gallon, USD1 = SG$1.36, 1 US gallon = 3.78541 litres)
Taiwan = SG$1.51 per litre (USD 1 = SGD1.36)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific_business/view/350428/1/.html
Your logic being if Japan produced 1% of crude oil, they use the 1% to subsidise the 99% consumption?
Please explain the logic of your line of questioning first.
I am still waiting for the figures you claim to have which states that Japan and South Korea have higher petrol prices.
I was merely elaborating your stupidity to new forumers here when I said everybody else in this forum is wrong, Taiwanese KMT caucus leader is wrong and the News is wrong. You are the the "smartest" person is this forum.
M13, I started this thread comparing non-oil producing developed country and now you are insisting that I am stupid because I dont take into considering net oil importing, oil producing countries like Japan.
Are you ok or not?
Btw, what happen to your Korea S$1.50 petrol? was that a mistake?
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:M13, I started this thread comparing non-oil producing developed country and now you are insisting that I am stupid because I dont take into considering net oil importing, oil producing countries like Japan.
Are you ok or not?
Btw, what happen to your Korea S$1.50 petrol? was that a mistake?
What is your logic in restricting to non-oil producing country?
Maybe you can explain your logic, if it makes sense, I will accept it.
Can't you read the news article I posted, which unequivocally states SGD1.50 per litre.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
What is your logic in restricting to non-oil producing country?Maybe you can explain your logic, if it makes sense, I will accept it.
Can't you read the news article I posted, which unequivocally states SGD1.50 per litre.
what is your logic of comparing the petrol price between a non-oil producing country and oil producing country?
Am I suppose to believe what you post after reading so many confusing and corrupted information you posted in this forum? Please check, according a Korean article I read, the price of petrol in korea is about S$2.3 per litre, not S$1.50
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
what is your logic of comparing the petrol price between a non-oil producing country and oil producing country?Am I suppose to believe what you post after reading so many confusing and corrupted information you posted in this forum? Please check, according a Korean article I read, the price of petrol in korea is about S$2.3 per litre, not S$1.50
Please show us the link to prove. ![]()
I have nothing to hide, all excerpts from news article and government reports.
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
what is your logic of comparing the petrol price between a non-oil producing country and oil producing country?Am I suppose to believe what you post after reading so many confusing and corrupted information you posted in this forum? Please check, according a Korean article I read, the price of petrol in korea is about S$2.3 per litre, not S$1.50
NPNT..... I mean NLNT (No Link No Talk)
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Please show us the link to prove.I have nothing to hide, all excerpts from news article and government reports.
Seems like TS likes to spout rubbish ![]()
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Am I suppose to believe what you post after reading so many confusing and corrupted information you posted in this forum?
1. It cannot even read properly
2. It's only interested in seeking attention
3. It lives constantly in self-denial
The one who posted this must be kidding or dreaming.
Originally posted by eagle:Seems like TS likes to spout rubbish
1. It cannot even read properly
2. It's only interested in seeking attention
3. It lives constantly in self-denial
Flying frog, I will give you another chance to make yourself look like a fool "AGAIN". Before I do that, can I assume that you, this little brainless EAGLE believe that the petrol price is Korea is currently about S$1.50 per litre because Maurizio13 said so? YES or NO?
PS. My guess is that this stupid flying frog is going to switch topic to talk about something else because he has got no balls to say YES or NO.
I have already said I will not discuss with someone whose calibre and intelligence is as low as that of TS
wonder why some forumer still can't understand that statement, especially when that talk-big forumer was so confident to say that he has questions to ask, yet whimper down to nothing when challenged.
Yawns... Attention seeking troll
Originally posted by eagle:I have already said I will not discuss with someone whose calibre and intelligence is as low as that of TS
wonder why some forumer still can't understand that statement, especially when that talk-big forumer was so confident to say that he has questions to ask, yet whimper down to nothing when challenged.
Hehehe...what a bloody coward...talk so much, but dont even have balls to say a YES or NO.
You call yourself a scholar? hehehe...
Please take my advice and shut the fcuk up with the adults are talking or your will end up making yourself look like a ball-less fool
Like a spoilt little brat, TS attempts to taunt others just because no one wants to answer his childish questions. He did that to Maurizio, and now he's doing it to Eagle ![]()
We can expect such a troll to do it continuously. ![]()
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Trolls will be trolls.
Maurizio, look what you have done to the flying frog...:) He cant even give me a simple YES or NO answer about your S$1.50 korean petrol....heheh...scholar?? hahah