Why did SDP guys & supporters commit mass political suicide?
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Originally posted by hloc:
And the avg S'porean have shown how much they like his more vocal and daring ways at the last election didn't it......
The last election..... SDP got the worst result among all the Opps. WP & SDA both retain their seats..... with WP nearly winning another seat. SO, what had SDP achive...... if memory service me right.... less than 30% of the Votes in Sembawang GRC.
Won't the "more vocal and pro-active ways" of the SDP be better server... when used in Parliament
Until SDP could get themselves elected into the Parliament..... all they are doing is like a NGO..... cause they could bring out alot of concern (so could alot of 'Uncle' at any Coffeeshop)..... but they can't even get a chance to Vote or Question the Govt in Parliament (again, like alot of 'Uncle' at any Coffeeshop).
To SDP...... GET YOURSELF ELECTED 1st FOR GODSAKE
Is there any good that the WP and SDA Members of Parliament has done after being elected into Parliament ?
Both were subjected to the rules of Parliament, and to the bullying tactics and strategies of an overwhelming majority of the PAP dominated Parliament.
Even the Speaker of Parliament is a PAP MP and appointed to the chair - when most other parliaments have that position occupied by a neutral non-partisan personality.
How often has the Speaker of Parliament cut off WP and SDA for their persistence, when both never attempted to pursue any issues ?
JBJ's time in Parliament had seen more persistence in chasing for answers on issues of public interests, and got cruxified by the Parliamentary Disciplinary Committees - that were weighed heavily by PAP members to form kangaroo courts that always led to a single outcome.
If one revisit History, one will note that the Rules of Parliament had been changed by LKY since the time after the Barisan Sosialis walked out of Parliament in protest to the shameful parliamentary practices pushed by LKY
Since the last Referendum for Merger with Malaysia, LKY has refused to allow Singaporeans to participate directly in the political process on any major issues that affect Singaporeans - in the same manner that the citizens in more enlightened countries like Switzerland and even Israel are open to.
Yes, get elected into Parliament - under whose game rules "in and out of Parliament" ?
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Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Atobe is working for SDP and I wont be surprise if he is one of those blinded fool who were being conned by CSJ to participate in the mass rally.
It is comforting to note that the Gazelle has endeared himself to his 'Dear-Hunter" - who has intelligently played his card in not making his usual infantile response that will even embarass the children afflicted by autism.All the same, it is also comforting that Gazelle intellectual potency has been reduced to making similar juvenile snide remarks as his 'Dear-Hunter' - with nothing more substantial to offer; until some 1% inspired genius produce another controversy.
Try lollipop sucking - or even lick it - salivating on it should help calm your blood after sniffing the fine fabrics.from your friend's sister.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
It is comforting to note that the Gazelle has endeared himself to his 'Dear-Hunter" - who has intelligently played his card in not making his usual infantile response that will even embarass the children afflicted by autism.All the same, it is also comforting that Gazelle intellectual potency has been reduced to making similar juvenile snide remarks as his 'Dear-Hunter' - with nothing more substantial to offer; until some 1% inspired genius produce another controversy.
Try lollipop sucking - or even lick it - salivating on it should help calm your blood after sniffing the fine fabrics.from your friend's sister.
Atobe, I believe I have asked you this very simple and direct question before, and ie. Do you really think that me, Gazelle and Deerhunter are the same person? YES or NO?But somehow you have chosen to avoid it completely knowing that this could end up very embarrassing for you if you are proven wrong. "AGAIN"
Honestly I dont quite understand why are you still so concern about your credibility in this forum when most of us already know that you the biggest LIAR in this forum.
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Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Atobe, I believe I have asked you this very simple and direct question before, and ie. Do you really think that me, Gazelle and Deerhunter are the same person? YES or NO?But somehow you have chosen to avoid it completely knowing that this could end up very embarrassing for you if you are proven wrong. "AGAIN"
Honestly I dont quite understand why are you still so concern about your credibility in this forum when we all know that you the biggest LIAR in this forum.
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
I believe the message to you is loud and clear, so please stop behaving like a spoilt child fighting for attention in this forum. -
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Atobe, I believe I have asked you this very simple and direct question before, and ie. Do you really think that me, Gazelle and Deerhunter are the same person? YES or NO?But somehow you have chosen to avoid it completely knowing that this could end up very embarrassing for you if you are proven wrong. "AGAIN"
Honestly I dont quite understand why are you still so concern about your credibility in this forum when most of us already know that you the biggest LIAR in this forum.
It seems that the Gazelle has suddenly awaken to be intellectual again, but lost your own memory in my last advise to you - read my post, and tell me which part of my last referred post written in simple English that you could not understand - did you take up my invitation ?
Not so clever to attempt to turn the table on others when you do not even know which side of the table you are sitting on.
Am I concerned with my credibility in this forum, or are you simply stating it out of your own self-interest in attempting to shore up your own lost credibility ?
Is it any skin off my nose what anyone think of me in this sgforums, or any where in Sinagpore, or in the "whole wide world" ?
Only you are more concerned with your image as a worn-out Gazelle - exposed for your bad fantasies with some undergarments - that required you to change your nick simply to carry on with your usual non-sensical ways.
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Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Atobe, I believe I have asked you this very simple and direct question before, and ie. Do you really think that me, Gazelle and Deerhunter are the same person? YES or NO?But somehow you have chosen to avoid it completely knowing that this could end up very embarrassing for you if you are proven wrong. "AGAIN"
Honestly I dont quite understand why are you still so concern about your credibility in this forum when most of us already know that you the biggest LIAR in this forum.
You are wasting your time with Atobe. She will NEVER answer to simple and direct questions. She fears them, for she knows she would be found stupid either way. It was only thru blind luck that she got caught out condemning CSJ, her ass kissing idol, and IN HER OWN WORDS too! lol!
"Are you bitten by the same bug that made CSJ an 'attention seeking whore' "
Defined lucidly in your own words:-whoring ways as a dishonest political commentator ?"As if not enough, you further trample him:-
"Even if you cannot side with CSJ or his cause, there is no reason for you to trample a fallen person deeper into the rut that he got himself into."
Now, just sit back and watch how she is going to twist and turn her words to get back into CSJ's demented books, or butts, whichever, none of my concern for i have no concern for idiotic deadweights like her in our society. -
DeerHunter, do you agree 100% with our current ruling? If I may ask
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What is the job of a Opposition leader?
u have to lead a party in next election,not election many years later.
u MUST be qualified go for election.Dunt wait until u are too old.
u must play smart,make full use of internet,current technlogy etc
Dunt just do like your father or grand father do.
Being a Opposition party now is much better than
LKY era.Then,Every flyer costed money to print and man power
to distribute.They were hard to put the messages across.
But now--Have your site blocked? NO!!
I have not seen Chees own articles much fr SDP site.
Most of the articles copy and paste from overseas NGO
to support Chees.
So,how can u motivate people to support u?
Dunt rely on James Gomez like incidents to get votes.
Street protests is not the must and only way to win people hearts
If u protest in Capitol Hill,u also get arrested.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/22/capitol.hill.arrests/index.html
updated 1:01 p.m. EDT, Mon October 22, 2007Dozens of Capitol Hill protesters arrested
So,what is wrong that u huys get arrested?
Stay political alive is the no.1 priority.
Since u think u can save millions from this repression
gavaman,pl think before u do.
WE NEED YOU SAVE US!!
Remember the privileges of being a MP
u can speak in the House without being sued,to a certain extend.
PARLIAMENT (PRIVILEGES, IMMUNITIES AND POWERS) ACT
So,for the sake of million of people u can benefit,
think smart and work smart.
u cannot lead from the jail nor not qualified for election.
Keep your job and income
u can connect with people much better if have the above,
especially u are a prefessional.
Chiam and Low are the good examples.
I think u think they are not brave.But at least they are in
the game.
If u are not in the game,it is useless even u are as brave as a lion.
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Originally posted by Beautiful951:
DeerHunter, do you agree 100% with our current ruling? If I may ask
100% ruling on what? or do you mean 100% of the ruling party's policies on administration? If it is the latter, yes, and under the leadership of PM Lee. He is one of the best leaders around, even amongst the elites, highly educated, experienced and with proven capabilities, committed and dedicated to uplift our lives, with pragmatic solutions.
We are an accidental nation with no natural resources. We only have each other to support one another. Many could have fled to other shores, but most stayed behind and contributed to our success on a national scale. We pay alot, but the price was worth it because it ensures our freedom as a multicultural ethnic society, and our taxes helps pay for the next generation of kids to grow up in a safe and better environment conducieve for growth, just as our previous generations had provided for us.
Some policies hurt, ( i don't enjoy paying taxes but i know it is necessary and pay without regrets ) but it is only for the good of all, never just for one person. All their polices are rational, and made with the best intentions to get the best results. There are no perfect ruling administrations, but PM Lee's is one of the best around we can hope for in these times, unlike the ones faced by MM Lee, where the opposition were murderers and thugs, not lazy butted slanderers of today.
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Since the Lees are so wise, should they be royal family of Singapore DeerHunter?
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Since the Lees are so wise, should they be royal family of Singapore DeerHunter?
Why ask me? I have no authority to grant anyone anything except thru my sacred vote. My loyalty is to our society and if our society is sufficiently explained with any policies that are rational and necessary for all or majority, my vote belongs with them - not for one, but for all or at least the majority.
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My loyalty is to our society and if our society is sufficiently explained with any policies that are rational and necessary for all or majority, my vote belongs with them - not for one, but for all or at least the majority.
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ONly under the rule of obnoxious, oppressive, evil dictator lky people are not eligible for election. Look at other countries, it is so common to know that some of their leaders were sentenced to jail before. Quick, hurry up, hurry up please let this evil dictator exit from earth.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
100% ruling on what? or do you mean 100% of the ruling party's policies on administration? If it is the latter, yes, and under the leadership of PM Lee. He is one of the best leaders around, even amongst the elites, highly educated, experienced and with proven capabilities, committed and dedicated to uplift our lives, with pragmatic solutions.
We are an accidental nation with no natural resources. We only have each other to support one another. Many could have fled to other shores, but most stayed behind and contributed to our success on a national scale. We pay alot, but the price was worth it because it ensures our freedom as a multicultural ethnic society, and our taxes helps pay for the next generation of kids to grow up in a safe and better environment conducieve for growth, just as our previous generations had provided for us.
Some policies hurt, ( i don't enjoy paying taxes but i know it is necessary and pay without regrets ) but it is only for the good of all, never just for one person. All their polices are rational, and made with the best intentions to get the best results. There are no perfect ruling administrations, but PM Lee's is one of the best around we can hope for in these times, unlike the ones faced by MM Lee, where the opposition were murderers and thugs, not lazy butted slanderers of today.
Yes that is what I am asking. Ok good answer.
thank you
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
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Poh. I am a forthright and straightforward speaking person, unlike the double speaking slanderous types here if you know what little of me.
A direct answer to you is:-
NO. I will not support a motion to make the Lees royal family of singapore.
Why not?
Simply because i would want PM Lee, a capable and dedicated man to serve our nation in the forefront than behind the scenes. As a king, he would not be allowed to interfere with affairs of the state. It would be a waste of talent and effort in grooming him to lead our nation into greater heights.
BUT, i would support a motion to cannonize MM Lee and the rest of our founding fathers as the missing gods in the pantheon of high plane beings. There are gods of love, god of wars, god of agriculture, god of money, but there is no god of pragmatism.
MM Lee and our founding fathers will be such gods. It may not happen in my lifetime, but i am sure that within the next few generations, when crisis of great magnitude occurs, the People will cry upon the name of MM Lee and our founding fathers for help, more so if the opposition ever get to rule over us in a freak result election.
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I hope Lee Kuan Yew quickly die, than your wish of praying to God Kuan Yew will be fulfilled.
Lee Kuan Yew become god of Singapore after he is dead.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Poh. I am a forthright and straightforward speaking person, unlike the double speaking slanderous types here if you know what little of me.
A direct answer to you is:-
NO. I will not support a motion to make the Lees royal family of singapore.
Why not?
Simply because i would want PM Lee, a capable and dedicated man to serve our nation in the forefront than behind the scenes. As a king, he would not be allowed to interfere with affairs of the state. It would be a waste of talent and effort in grooming him to lead our nation into greater heights.
BUT, i would support a motion to cannonize MM Lee and the rest of our founding fathers as the missing gods in the pantheon of high plane beings. There are gods of love, god of wars, god of agriculture, god of money, but there is no god of pragmatism.
MM Lee and our founding fathers will be such gods. It may not happen in my lifetime, but i am sure that within the next few generations, when crisis of great magnitude occurs, the People will cry upon the name of MM Lee and our founding fathers for help, more so if the opposition ever get to rule over us in a freak result election.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Poh. I am a forthright and straightforward speaking person, unlike the double speaking slanderous types here if you know what little of me.
A direct answer to you is:-
NO. I will not support a motion to make the Lees royal family of singapore.
Why not?
Simply because i would want PM Lee, a capable and dedicated man to serve our nation in the forefront than behind the scenes. As a king, he would not be allowed to interfere with affairs of the state. It would be a waste of talent and effort in grooming him to lead our nation into greater heights.
BUT, i would support a motion to cannonize MM Lee and the rest of our founding fathers as the missing gods in the pantheon of high plane beings. There are gods of love, god of wars, god of agriculture, god of money, but there is no god of pragmatism.
MM Lee and our founding fathers will be such gods. It may not happen in my lifetime, but i am sure that within the next few generations, when crisis of great magnitude occurs, the People will cry upon the name of MM Lee and our founding fathers for help, more so if the opposition ever get to rule over us in a freak result election.
Thats very insightful indeed. People never know what will happen until it does happen. But, is the PAP not becoming arrogant?
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Originally posted by Beautiful951:
Thats very insightful indeed. People never know what will happen until it does happen. But, is the PAP not becoming arrogant?
Nope. There may be a few, but they are all human and have human weaknesses. Most of them are capable, and in that capability, they may not be patient enough with fools and slanderers. Each person do have their limits. I am sure even you also cannot take it when a person irritates you constantly, what more, leaders of state who have a country to administer with more pressing duties to find solutions to solve our woes?
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Nope. There may be a few, but they are all human and have human weaknesses. Most of them are capable, and in that capability, they may not be patient enough with fools and slanderers. Each person do have their limits. I am sure even you also cannot take it when a person irritates you constantly, what more, leaders of state who have a country to administer with more pressing duties to find solutions to solve our woes?
Yes indeed. Then what do you think of house visits close to elections? Do you think it is hypocritical, or is it ok?And also, may I ask if you think that LHL is not really capable? But it is LKY who is?
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There may be a few, but they are all human and have human weaknesses.
Is Lee Kuan Yew one of them?
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Originally posted by Beautiful951:
Yes indeed. Then what do you think of house visits close to elections? Do you think it is hypocritical, or is it ok?And also, may I ask if you think that LHL is not really capable? But it is LKY who is?
I think the issue here is, is the country better governed or not. House visits are secondary issues.
PM Lee had served several portfolios in the administration and he had not failed in them, but made them better - trade and finance. He is qualified for the post of PM to lead us all to greater heights.
MM Lee is only a consultant, a valuable one, for his experience and knowledge is immense. Even other nations consult him. It would be a waste if he doesnt offer his views.
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Wow, if Lee Kuan Yew meets you in person, he will surely like you, since you keep on praising him.
You two will become good buddies.
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Originally posted by redDUST:
what's your religion now?My religion is Christianity, not Catholicism. My faith is my own and something between me and God, and no mortal can come between me and Him.
I live in a secular state and have respect for other religions, for it gives them a source of comfort in trying times. If it comforts my fellow citizens to seek spiritual comfort, i will not stand in their way so long as it does not hurt others in our society.
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So do you want a temple to be build to worship Lee Kuan Yew as god after Lee Kuan Yew dies?