There is a conspiracy to do us in, says MM Lee
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Originally posted by drawer:
LKY says that the Russian n Mainland Chinese are learning from him.Honestly speaking,i believe he think too much.Russians has just liberated from dictatorial communist rule,they know god damn well how horrible it is to be ruled under a one-party domination situation.Like all the rest of democratic countries who been through a dictatorial ruling,the Russians will not go back to one party rules situation.
As for mainland China,well,they have never experienced a democratic political system throughout his 5000 yrs history.Plus,they only open up their market n interact freely with the rest of the world in 1970's n 80's.So naturally,China will be abit slow towards the road of democracy,so what does LKY expect?
But even so,China didnt copy all LKY doings.At least,they didnt copy LKY "Father pass ruling power to Son" method.Even Taiwan late President Jiang Kai Shek did pass his seat to his son Jiang Jing Guo,but he n Jiang Jing Guo also didnt pass so many titles n power to all their sons,daughters,and relatives like what Lee Kuan Yew is doing right now.
So if u ask me whether LKY is imagining things,my answer is yes,he think too much,LOL.
Unlike LKY and his party, the govt of China bothers to take care of the old by giving them pension. Whenever there is disaster in China, Wen Jia Bo is there in the venue to show care for the people, you think LKY will do the same.
He is shameless to grade his party A plus. Self praise is international disgrace. We are the ones who is giving them rating, he should not be rating his own party. He knows no shame, his skin is super thick. He is silly, he is showing Singapore and the world how foolish he has become. I would appreciate it if he spends his time wisely to help the people of Singapore cope with the inflation.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
There is a conspiracy to do us in, says MM Lee
Minister Mentor rebuts human rights groups' criticism of Singapore
Sue-ann Chia
MINISTER Mentor Lee Kuan Yew last night dismissed human rights organisations' criticisms of Singapore's style of governance, saying that they were trying to 'do us in'.
Is there a conspiracy to do "us" in - as in - a conspiracy to do Singapore in ?
Or is it an admission that the "Dirty Fascist Politics" of the Singapore Ruling Political Party has received World Class Attention ?
Is it not his usual style that when he has met his match, he will cry "wolf" that will justify his own means at using all instruments at his disposal when cornered ?
In a robust rebuttal of these groups' assertions that Singapore is not a liberal democracy, he said that they had never run a country and did not know what was needed to make Singapore tick.
'There is a conspiracy to do us in. Why?... They see us as a threat,' said Mr Lee at an hour-long dialogue during the Economic Society of Singapore's annual dinner.
Explaining why these groups regarded Singapore as a threat, he said it was because they saw that the Russians and Chinese have been coming and studying Singapore's success story and picking up pointers.
Is it very unusual for MM LKY to speak that "they see us as a threat" as the Russians and Chinese have been coming and studying Singapore's success story and picking up pointers ?
Why should Singapore's success story become a threat when the success story can only benefit the Russians and the Chinese ?
Has MM LKY intentionally avoid mentioning the unthinkable in his vocabulary ?
The leaders of these countries ask 'how does this little country with so little talent keep its ruling party in place and run a tight ship, honest, and effective, and make progress?'
This is typical LKY's arrogance in treating Singaporeans as untalented digits as his statement reveals - "how this little country with so little talent keeps its ruling party in place and run a tight ship".
Is he rubbing salt into the wounds that he has inflicted on us by insulting Singaporeans for having so little talent to challenge his fascist manipulation of the laws - that keep Singaporeans disenfranchised of our Political Rights, de-politicised generations of Singaporeans, so as to perpetuate his own political clout as well as that of his PAP ?
'Can they (the Russians and Chinese) do it? I don't know. But they are picking up points here and there.'
Mr Lee was responding to a question on whether Singapore needed a Western-style liberal democracy to succeed.
He said groups which advocate the need for liberal democracies were prescribing universal rules for the whole world.
Is he elevating his own status with this statement that Russia and China has thrown out Marxism and Communism, and are now studying "LeeKuanYew-ism" ?
Why will he be vague about the Universal Rules that he is accusing others for advocating ?
Why does he not claim that it is simply Basic Human Rights as identified by the International Bar Association - which had diligently written a brilliant report of the not so talented ways that the Singapore Politicians attempt to hide their political sins ?
It had to take an international law group to unravel and expose the dirty political works of the Singapore Government formed by the PAP, when it should have been done by the local Law Society of Singapore - which unfortunately had cowed under the pressure of MM LKY.
Shame on the untalented legal minds in the Singapore Law Society.
But he threw down this gauntlet:
'My question is to them, have you ever run Singapore? Do you know how we got here? What were we? What we are now? And how we can become better?
Has LKY run a country when he first step into politics during the Colonial Days in the 1950s ?
If MM LKY had allowed himself the liberties and politcal space to clamor what he had no experienced for - during the Colonial Days in the 1950s, why should he deny the same honor to the new generations, who are faced with the same autocratic rule after 43 years of independence ?
Is MM LKY suggesting that Human Rights has no place in governance of a country, and governments do not need to respect the individual rights of the citizens ?
This is a far cry from his speeches made in 1955 in the Singapore Legislative Assembly and in 1964 in the Malaysian Federal Parliament - in which both clamoured for Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom from oppressive rules of government, and basically calling for a level playing field ?
'We are not stupid people. They give us all these advice... Who are they? Have they ever run a country, created jobs for community and given them a life? We have and we know what it requires.
'Nobody (who) advocates this has any idea what they will do to a society if you implement these rules.'
Nobody has any idea of the consequences does not mean that it should not be tried ?
How often have we seen the bad policies of MM LKY's administration in the 1960s through Goh Chok Tong's administration - that we have seen policies retracted too late, as the effects of bad policies have already been set in motion ?
Has it not been also a trial and error on the part of the PAP with its policy decisions ?
Why should MM LKY be so negatively defensive in the usual ways when alternative views are offered by anyone else ?
It has been so infectious that even local forumers have adopted the same lines.
Mr Lee believes each country will have to decide which political system suits it best.
'Different people have different cultures and forge different consensus and seek different solutions to their problems,' he said.
If MM LKY "believe that different people, different cultures, and forge different consensus and seek different solutions to their problems." - why will he decide to adopt Confuscianism into Singapore, which has four different ehtnic group ?
Why did he decide to allow pop and western cultures to enter Singapore and undermine the Singapore Youths ?
But he was also quick to acknowledge that the People's Action Party (PAP) will not always have the answers:
'I'm not saying the PAP government will always be supreme, will always be honest, will always be A-plus.
'The day it is no longer honest, it should be out. And another party should come in, with equally honest people.'
MM LKY surely has alot to learn, if he is not aware that the rot has already set in.
Turning to the opposition, Mr Lee said:
'We are not trying to block them. We are trying to force them to collect a group of people equal in competence...When we fail, they have a team that can take over.
Does he need to try so hard to convince a foreign audience that the Ruling Party is not trying to block the Alternative Political Parties ?
If MM LKY is not trying to block the activities of the Alternative Political Parties - it is due to the fact that he is "not trying" but is actually doing it.
'But unfortunately, they can't do it. Because the people with ability, drive, ambition and energy don't want to come into politics. If they wanted to, they will join us (the PAP).'
For Singapore to continue to succeed, it needs to find the next generation of top notch leaders.
Is MM LKY attempting to con the foreign audience who do not have any first hand knowledge of the MM LKY's style of politics ?
Is it not a fact that those Singaporeans with the ability, drive, ambition and energy will rather stay out of politics and not join the PAP - until they are "persuaded" by the million dollar wages that MM LKY depend on as a crutch to attract his talents, and prevent corruption amongst his talented recruits ?
If it has to take money to attract talents, and also to prevent corruption in the Ministerial ranks - does it not speak volumes about the Singapore character, and the questionable patriotism of those few persons whom MM LKY see as the talented ?
Mr Lee said the present generation of leaders could last at least two terms.
Has his capabilities extend into the realm of predicting the future, by gazing deep to looking into a large crystal ball ?
But if they did not find talented people with the drive and energy and integrity to match the demands of the job during this time, 'then I say, the future is in doubt'.
'The system is there, but it cannot run with mediocre men. You need top men.'
As matters stand, his conceited vanity prevents him from admitting that his son is incapable of strong leadership
The PAP has managed to recruit good people and its leaders had, in turn, won the trust of Singaporeans through their integrity and honesty - values which the PAP still holds true today.
Won the trust of the people, or winning elections by manipulating the rules and shifitng the election boundaries of the constituencies to the advantage of the Ruling Party - that do not reflect political honesty ?
Winning a general election that leaves Two-thirds of the electorate sitting at home, winning the total vote count that reflects the vote from approximately 28% of the qualfied population.
He said the task of finding new leaders is no longer his:
'I've done my job. I've passed it on to the next generation. Chok Tong has passed to the next generation.
Why is MM LKY interfering, and continue to stick his finger in the pie ?
He claimed that even when he is dead, he will rise up from the grave if anything goes wrong in Singapore - has he died and returned, or has something gone wrong that needed his continued tenure in Government ?
'If you have a competent team on board, honest and dedicated, it will last. If you have bums, then even with best of institutions, it will fail.'
Has he not already proven that when bums are smart enough to dismantle the institutions left behind by the Colonial Government, it will preserve the bums in power at the expense of the populace ?
To prevent failure to the new system and new institutions created by the bums in power, they have to resort to tighter and tighter controls and as the years go by, the rules becoming even more unrelentingly tight.
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... if ever, this is THE largest heap of BullCrap I ever read...
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A POEM ABOUT CONSPIRACY
Conspiracy abound in the air,
First-world leader spoke again
Claimed leadership empteen time
Stung by yet more world criticism,
Injustice and oppressions of citizens,
Made to suffer winter of harsh doing,
First world government vow to sue,
Whoever questioned his NKF
Solutions to problems not his concern,
Success long figured quite simply,
Little red dot had no resouce,
Right recourse to tax and enslave,
His people with harsh iron hand,
By any means government would stay,
All means to quell critics discontent,
To hell the world of western democracy
Which brought progress of science
To little red dot not of issue,
His iron hand was true mark of leader,
Claimed Russia and China had to learn
To put his point plainly across,
World critics challenged as conspiring
Oppression may be of utmost concern
Message ultimate was his leadership,
Again at any price ought to win.
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Freedom from the LKY oppression. I was a foreigner in your country and the ruler of your island turned out to be a psychopath. All I did was falling in love with a girl in the Bukit batok Catholic church: St. Mary of the Angels. It has been 7 years of abuses and tortures. You know the most hurtful thing that could happen is when your own mother betray you.
I was starved in the hospital for three days and not allowed to call anyone even when I asked for a telephone, eventually they did give me a phone but they killed the line.
When I was in the ambulance a disctinly Chinese Singaporean accent male said over the Ambulance radio that they just wanted to play with me. Everybody inside pretended not to hear anything.
I jumped off the MRT platform because I was so scared because I was manipulated into believing that the ruler of Singapore was satanic. Stupid eh?
I'm a victim of grave abuses from people in power in Singapore with access to telepathic person(s). They have friends here too. All abuses are to convince people I'm mentally ill to cover their grave evil. Even my own mother abuses and defames me insisting I'm mentally ill i.e crazy. telepathy is not a fiction it's a fact though it's not a public fact.
But I still belive that the ruler of Singapore is satanic but it turns out that satan's greatest weapon is a mind reader-paranormal, manipulation, lies, trick, technology, money and the IMH.Shame on you the ruler of Singapore!
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Asshole
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Asshole (or arsehole in British English) is slang for the anus and can be used to describe an unpleasant person. It is formed from arse, which according to the Oxford English Dictionary has been used since the 11th century to refer to the rump of an animal and since the 14th century to refer to a person's buttocks. The combined form arsehole is first attested from 1500 in its literal use to refer to the anus. The metaphorical use of the word to refer to the worst place in a region (e.g., "the arsehole of the world") is first attested in print in 1865; the use to refer to a contemptible person is first attested in 1933.[1] But as with other vulgarities, these uses of the word may have been common in oral speech for some time before their first print appearances.
Semantics
The word is mainly used as a profanity towards someone the speaker does not like or whose behavior is hurtful, self-centered, or particularly abrasive. Usually, the term is directed at a male (in female anatomy, the focus is deflected to the nearby genitals; see cunt). It may also sometimes be used to describe people who are viewed as stupid or useless or even meaningless, similar to wanker.
This word or its literal translation is found in colloquial speech in a number of cultures (in both English and other languages). This is because it describes an organ of elimination that is considered a taboo region (since it belongs to the intimate parts) of the body in many societies.
The English word ass (meaning donkey, a cognate of its zoological name Equus asinus) may also be used as a term of contempt, referring to a silly or stupid person. In North America, the words arse and ass have become synonymous; however, in the rest of the English-speaking world, ass still only refers to the donkey, rather than the arse (buttocks). It is worth noting that speakers of some varieties of English “drop their Rs” before consonants, leading to a pronunciation of arse that is quite similar to ass.
Until the early 1990s, the word was considered one of a number of words that could not be uttered on commercial television in the United States. Comedian Andrew Dice Clay caused a major shock when he uttered the word during a televised awards show in the 1980s. However, there were PG-13 and R rated films in the 1980s that featured use of the word, such as "The Terminator" (1984) and the PG-13 "National Lampoon Christmas Vacation" (1989) and "Back to The Future II" (1989). By 1994, however, the word was considered less vulgar and was featured in dialog on the long-running television series NYPD Blue, though it has yet to become anything close to commonplace on network TV. It is important to note that while the word arse has found a place on broadcast television, arsehole is not used, probably due to its more vulgar connotation. In some broadcast edits (such as the syndication airings of South Park), the word is partially bleeped out—ironically, as "arseh---", with the profane half of the word intact.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
Freedom from the LKY oppression. I was a foreigner in your country and the ruler of your island turned out to be a psychopath. All I did was falling in love with a girl in the Bukit batok Catholic church: St. Mary of the Angels. It has been 7 years of abuses and tortures. You know the most hurtful thing that could happen is when your own mother betray you.
I was starved in the hospital for three days and not allowed to call anyone even when I asked for a telephone, eventually they did give me a phone but they killed the line.
When I was in the ambulance a disctinly Chinese Singaporean accent male said over the Ambulance radio that they just wanted to play with me. Everybody inside pretended not to hear anything.
I jumped off the MRT platform because I was so scared because I was manipulated into believing that the ruler of Singapore was satanic. Stupid eh?
I'm a victim of grave abuses from people in power in Singapore with access to telepathic person(s). They have friends here too. All abuses are to convince people I'm mentally ill to cover their grave evil. Even my own mother abuses and defames me insisting I'm mentally ill i.e crazy. telepathy is not a fiction it's a fact though it's not a public fact.
But I still belive that the ruler of Singapore is satanic but it turns out that satan's greatest weapon is a mind reader-paranormal, manipulation, lies, trick, technology, money and the IMH.Shame on you the ruler of Singapore!
Why would the government target you out of so many people out there for telepathic attacks, if there is such things in the first place? Are you in any way a threat to them? Why are they not using telepathic attacks on CSJ and other opposition leaders as well? Why are they not going insane?
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O.o nt scared tio hoot ??
Say other country like dat ...
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Originally posted by annoy-you-must:
Why would the government target you out of so many people out there for telepathic attacks, if there is such things in the first place? Are you in any way a threat to them? CSJ is a public figuteWhy are they not using telepathic attacks on CSJ and other opposition leaders as well? Why are they not going insane?
CSJ is a public figure it would hurt the Lees bad if something would happen to him. Not that he couldn't do anyhting to CSJ.
The Malaysian authority tried to bring down Anwar Ibrahim's career in politics for good especially with the sodomy charges. They did more damage to the BN than to Anwar Ibrahim.
Why me? Because I'm nobody and because they could and because they wanted it.
Though I would really like to sue the NUH for forgering a false diagnosis. I have no money to hire lawyer though. Any idealist lawyer want to help me? I would pay with the money I win in the court. Every Singaporeans are afraid of the Lees and the court proceeding would not be a fair trial. after all If I were not insane it opens up other possibility of what actually happened to me.
Because they are a 10 billion worth of money assholes.
I tried to reason to on why but I've realised it wasn't my fault it was their problem.
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it's getting very tiring to always hear them using fear and paranoia to scare the populace into voting for them...
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Originally posted by dukedracula:
it's getting very tiring to always hear them using fear and paranoia to scare the populace into voting for them...
Personally, I am unclear why1. If there is evidence that IBA report is trying 'to do us in', given the seriousness in this allegation, why has Lee / your government not sued to protect singapore reputation?
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Mr Lee ah Mr Leeee... please go and retire already lah.
For the sake of PAP..... please go and enjoy the rest of your life ....while you still can.
Let the young step up and run the country..... so the talented may join in with an open heart.
You keep on goh goh di like this.. the young ones hear/see alredy sibeh sian...
If you want to go climb mount everest.. we sarpport you !
If you want to go dive in the coral reef.. we give our blessings to you !
.. please.... letting go.. is really not very hard.
If you want a young and pretty girl to be your global tour guide.. I got many for you to choose from. As long as you not as stingy as you are to the people of Singapore.
Life is very short.. your son also has not much time for him to rule the country already... you stick around like this is only a tripping stone for him and your PAP....
Go and have some fun.... life is short... ok ? Good.
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The reason that this old man is sticking around is he have employed too many yes men, and his yes men have employed too many yes yes men, and the yes yes men have also employed too many yes yes yes men.
So, with so many yes men around and no one with anything between the head (ERP to control traffic, wage increase will cause inflation), he have to stick around so that he can collect his pension in peace.
Not forgetting he can enjoy free travel, free medical, free abalone, free boot licking if he stay around.
Not forgetting there is also another Mr peanut, who is there and not doing any good.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
The reason that this old man is sticking around is he have employed too many yes men, and his yes men have employed too many yes yes men, and the yes yes men have also employed too many yes yes yes men.
So, with so many yes men around and no one with anything between the head (ERP to control traffic, wage increase will cause inflation), he have to stick around so that he can collect his pension in peace.
Not forgetting he can enjoy free travel, free medical, free abalone, free boot licking if he stay around.
Not forgetting there is also another Mr peanut, who is there and not doing any good.
But can I say Majority of You the Citizens support their policies in general thus they never lost for about Half of 100 years in a row, continuously , never stopping, never losing ? I mean, it was a fair system right? As in You casted that vote purely on your own without harrassment right? And Your decision led to their continued reign over you right?
By extrapolation, could I say they will not lose in the next election as well?
And assuming this will most likely be the case, they can implement more policies in future and be supported by this large Majority for years and years to come and come? -
Originally posted by Gutentaginator:
But can I say Majority of You the Citizens support their policies in general thus they never lost for about Half of 100 years in a row, continuously , never stopping, never losing ?
By extrapolation, could I say they will not lose in the next election as well?
And assuming this will most likely be the case, they can implement more policies in future and be supported by this large Majority for years and years to come and come?Yes lah.. I also worshipped PAP before.
But that was before this old man behaves like he's going senile.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Yes lah.. I also worshipped PAP before.
But that was before this old man behaves like he's going senile.
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Originally posted by Gutentaginator:
But you still have the younger one right? :pThe young one very poor thing actually. So I no blame him.
We can only tell if he can make it or not, after his father pass on ....
Because right now.. people believe the father is still the one controlling everything.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
The young one very poor thing actually. So I no blame him.
We can only tell if he can make it or not, after his father pass on ....
Because right now.. people believe the father is still the one controlling everything.
oh i see. thanks for the additional information.Am getting to know more about Singapore.
cheers!
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Originally posted by dukedracula:
it's getting very tiring to always hear them using fear and paranoia to scare the populace into voting for them...
No worry, many Singaporeans love this style and supported it and asked others to shut up when they expose the PAP. it is people like them that cause us to suffer.
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Look at it, it is actually MM who really do us in, not any third party.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
This old man is getting more and more paranoid.
As one gets older there is a tendency to become paranoid especially when one is fully loaded with wealth & power because the fear of losing the above mentioned assets is always playing on the mind. Additionally some oldies are fixated in their beliefs & have difficulties in upgrading their mind set to match with the changing times & the situation will be made worse if there is some element of senility creeping in.
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I hope Lee Kuan Yew dies.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
I hope Lee Kuan Yew dies.
Ur initials also PAP also :D -
Originally posted by richong 3216:
As one gets older there is a tendency to become paranoid especially when one is fully loaded with wealth & power because the fear of losing the above mentioned assets is always playing on the mind. Additionally some oldies are fixated in their beliefs & have difficulties in upgrading their mind set to match with the changing times & the situation will be made worse if there is some element of senility creeping in.
Just monitor his talk, you will know this old chap is senile. It is common for senile old folks to love yaking yaking yaking. Singapore is in danger now for she has a senile, obnoxious old fart leading. He is a shame to all Singaporeans. Let us hope he dies soon. Hope he dies before the wife.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
I hope Lee Kuan Yew dies.
Don't need to hope, everybody dies.