Women shd also serve NS. Do u agree? share ur views.
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Originally posted by off_service:
With all the "If"s around, IF a soldier happen to show up at your place or somewhere near you and IF you happen to have a first aid kit at least you can give him something to stop bleeding, like bandage.
And IF you can find a taxi in "war fantasy" zone, that's good.
Ya lor....don't you agree it's quite retarded to imagine a soldier showing up at your place wounded?Cannot be so suay one right? Wounded soldier have to appear outside my place and not at my neighbour's place.
I'll probably call the police if that retarded soldier comes dying at my doorstep.
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Originally posted by off_service:
Now I finally understand why I've seen scenarios of fathers supporting NS but the mothers against it.
Maybe we should wait till when the female population is significantly more than men and we'll see what happen, whether we'll see FT supporting our defence or everybody is a part of our defence.Ya....so smart...wait for female population to be significantly more than men. Then women will decide for the men.
I have to agree, this is one great idea coming from you.
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Originally posted by off_service:
Now I finally understand why I've seen scenarios of fathers supporting NS but the mothers against it.
Maybe we should wait till when the female population is significantly more than men and we'll see what happen, whether we'll see FT supporting our defence or everybody is a part of our defence.Fathers don't want their sons to be sissies.. that's why to them NS training can make their boys tougher .
But fathers also don't want their dotters to become a butch or manly. That's why they will not favor such policies.
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Originally posted by parn:
Ya lor....don't you agree it's quite retarded to imagine a soldier showing up at your place wounded?Cannot be so suay one right? Wounded soldier have to appear outside my place and not at my neighbour's place.
I'll probably call the police if that retarded soldier comes dying at my doorstep.
No one wants that I can guarantee. But sometimes s**t happens though. Esp in Singapore where urban warfare is more possible.
That course thingy you were talking about.. Can call that Total Defence or some National Education thingy. -
Originally posted by parn:
Like I have mentioned before, I do not wish to kill the enemy as much as you do.
I will do my best to protect my children.
Maybe you need to understand that women are not meant to kill but mostly only to be killed.
And what can MAN do if woman like me has made up my mind to sacrifice for my children instead of killing the enemy?
So do i. But when if such situation comes whereby it's either you+children or the enemy will die. What's the 1st instance thought? Cover your children with your body and expect the enemy to kill you and will let your children go?Let me ask you, how do you protect your children in that situation?
Maybe you need to understand that women are not meant to be killed but to self protect/children/parent.
Likewise, how do you sacrifice? And what makes you so sure that your sacrification will allow your children to be safe?
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Originally posted by parn:
Ya lor....don't you agree it's quite retarded to imagine a soldier showing up at your place wounded?Cannot be so suay one right? Wounded soldier have to appear outside my place and not at my neighbour's place.
I'll probably call the police if that retarded soldier comes dying at my doorstep.
What happens if the wounded soldier is from the enemy side ah ?
Since they want women to be trained in nursing and first aid..should the women leave the soldier to die or help him ah ???
Very dilemma leh...
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Originally posted by parn:
Ya....so smart...wait for female population to be significantly more than men. Then women will decide for the men.
I have to agree, this is one great idea coming from you.
Since it's already proven there's more women in Singapore already and provided this pattern continues.
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Originally posted by dcx:
I think only but i never make sure that the enemy will NOT kill you...Reasons why the enemy will NOT kill you:
1] Very pretty woman > Rape 1st later then say...
2] Very ugly woman > Keep as servant or watever..
3] AIDS
Reasons why the enemy will KILL you:
1] He's a GAY.
WRONG!!!!!
One good reason why the enemy will not want to kill me...
It's because there will be so many wounded soldiers lying outside my place.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
What happens if the wounded soldier is from the enemy side ah ?
Since they want women to be trained in nursing and first aid..should the women leave the soldier to die or help him ah ???
Very dilemma leh...
Keep him alive to be interrogated by own ppl. Lol
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Originally posted by dcx:
So do i. But when if such situation comes whereby it's either you+children or the enemy will die. What's the 1st instance thought? Cover your children with your body and expect the enemy to kill you and will let your children go?Let me ask you, how do you protect your children in that situation?
Maybe you need to understand that women are not meant to be killed but to self protect/children/parent.
Likewise, how do you sacrifice? And what makes you so sure that your sacrification will allow your children to be safe?
The best self protection is to find a safe place to go.
It will be stupid for any mother to insist on staying in the battlefield ...waiting to get killed.
There is such a thing call " REFUGEE".
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Originally posted by off_service:
Keep him alive to be interrogated by own ppl. Lol
But scarly I fall in love with him.. how ??
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Originally posted by parn:
WRONG!!!!!
One good reason why the enemy will not want to kill me...
It's because there will be so many wounded soldiers lying outside my place.
Yah lah.. all kena your Mei Ren Ji !!!
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Ohh.. 6 months ah... can lah.. but no need BMT right ? No need reservist right ?
All they need is go to classes .. then get certificate right ? Then go for 1-2 day refresher course every year after ROD...
Then that one is not call NS...that one is call survival training lah.....
Here in USA also have... CPR certifications and first aid lah....
Most community colledge offers this kind of classes one.....
In fact.. people here hire nanny to take care of their young children.. they want this kind of certifications...
Relax lah..
Singapore should include this kind of training into their school curriculum lah....
I see....you're in US...no wonder...now it's 4.15am in S'pore...BMT = Basic Military Training
NS = National Service ==> Nation = you & the ppl; Service = To service you & the ppl
It should make some sense from the term(NS) used but, in garmen's REAL vision, don't ask me.
Where to term it as survival course or not, NS will provide the knowledge.
I'm not sure how will the garmen package the NS for women, should garmen wants women to be involved in NS.
But shldn't be as strenous as compared to the men's training.
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Originally posted by parn:
WRONG!!!!!
One good reason why the enemy will not want to kill me...
It's because there will be so many wounded soldiers lying outside my place.
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Originally posted by dcx:
I see....you're in US...no wonder...now it's 4.15am in S'pore...BMT = Basic Military Training
NS = National Service ==> Nation = you & the ppl; Service = To service you & the ppl
It should make some sense from the term(NS) used but, in garmen's REAL vision, don't ask me.
Where to term it as survival course or not, NS will provide the knowledge.
I'm not sure how will the garmen package the NS for women, should garmen wants women to be involved in NS.
But shldn't be as strenous as compared to the men's training.
Yah lah.. and this kind of training also no need in-camp.
The girls can go to a school everyday 9-5 .. no problem lah....like that no need to waste so much resources lah...
Even reservist for them can be after office hours. Just cover their transportation and dinner allowance can already lor.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
The best self protection is to find a safe place to go.
It will be stupid for any mother to insist on staying in the battlefield ...waiting to get killed.
There is such a thing call " REFUGEE".
I didn't mentioned battlefield...i mentioned War....War doesn't care whether if you're in the battlefield, refugee or toilet...
Is the refugee located on the moon that the enemy can't reach you?
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Originally posted by dcx:
So do i. But when if such situation comes whereby it's either you+children or the enemy will die. What's the 1st instance thought? Cover your children with your body and expect the enemy to kill you and will let your children go?Let me ask you, how do you protect your children in that situation?
Maybe you need to understand that women are not meant to be killed but to self protect/children/parent.
Likewise, how do you sacrifice? And what makes you so sure that your sacrification will allow your children to be safe?
So if I tell you, that is my choice to die protecting my children with my body, is that your problem in the first place?
Don't tell me what I should be doing best for my own children, just because you have no confidence or ability to protect woman like me.
Maybe you should understand that not all woman are just like you, who is willing to kill another using war as an excuse to do so. Some women refuses to take lives, just like me.
I have made up my resolve to die for my children, have you made up your resolve to die protecting your woman and children? Or are you still seeking to hide behind some excuse for not doing so?
IF you're a real MAN, make up your resolve and stand by it even if it will cause you to die.
You certainly don't need to convince me and jojobeach to share the same resolve as you, unless you're afraid of making the wrong resolve?
You're a guy right? Then you don't need to hold hands to go toilet with me and jojobeach.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
But scarly I fall in love with him.. how ??
Then you'll be alive. -
Originally posted by jojobeach:
Yah lah.. all kena your Mei Ren Ji !!!
Just trying to show them, even if women don't serve NS, we still got tons of Mei Ren Ji to survive in times of war.That's something they will never learn even if they were to fail and repeat and retake their NS 1000000000000 times.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Yah lah.. and this kind of training also no need in-camp.
The girls can go to a school everyday 9-5 .. no problem lah....like that no need to waste so much resources lah...
Even reservist for them can be after office hours. Just cover their transportation and dinner allowance can already lor.
You think the enemy will come between 9am-5pm? Or do you think that the enemy is trained to fight only between 9am-5pm? -
Originally posted by parn:
So if I tell you, that is my choice to die protecting my children with my body, is that your problem in the first place?
Don't tell me what I should be doing best for my own children, just because you have no confidence or ability to protect woman like me.
Maybe you should understand that not all woman are just like you, who is willing to kill another using war as an excuse to do so. Some women refuses to take lives, just like me.
I have made up my resolve to die for my children, have you made up your resolve to die protecting your woman and children? Or are you still seeking to hide behind some excuse for not doing so?
IF you're a real MAN, make up your resolve and stand by it even if it will cause you to die.
You certainly don't need to convince me and jojobeach to share the same resolve as you, unless you're afraid of making the wrong resolve?
You're a guy right? Then you don't need to hold hands to go toilet with me and jojobeach.
Actually I also agree lah.. we should train the kids about first aid and CPR lah..
But shouldn't limit to just girls lah..
Medical Emergency situations can happen anywhere anytime..everyone should be trained ..girls AND boys.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
What happens if the wounded soldier is from the enemy side ah ?
Since they want women to be trained in nursing and first aid..should the women leave the soldier to die or help him ah ???
Very dilemma leh...
Even more romantic falling in love with the enemy soldier...dunno which movie has that kind of scenario har?
I hope the enemy soldier is Brad Pitt.
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Originally posted by dcx:
You think the enemy will come between 9am-5pm? Or do you think that the enemy is trained to fight only between 9am-5pm?Harlow.. what are you talking about ? You high on alcohol issit ?
I'm talking about how the training can be carried out.
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Originally posted by parn:
Even more romantic falling in love with the enemy soldier...dunno which movie has that kind of scenario har?
I hope the enemy soldier is Brad Pitt.
Wah..(salivating).... more please !!!
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Originally posted by parn:
So if I tell you, that is my choice to die protecting my children with my body, is that your problem in the first place?
Don't tell me what I should be doing best for my own children, just because you have no confidence or ability to protect woman like me.
Maybe you should understand that not all woman are just like you, who is willing to kill another using war as an excuse to do so. Some women refuses to take lives, just like me.
I have made up my resolve to die for my children, have you made up your resolve to die protecting your woman and children? Or are you still seeking to hide behind some excuse for not doing so?
IF you're a real MAN, make up your resolve and stand by it even if it will cause you to die.
You certainly don't need to convince me and jojobeach to share the same resolve as you, unless you're afraid of making the wrong resolve?
You're a guy right? Then you don't need to hold hands to go toilet with me and jojobeach.
Simple.My stand:
If situation will to jeopardize the lives of my families, i'll kill and chances of my families surviving continues.
And if i don't kill and got killed, chances of my families surviving decreases.
You can injure the enemy, not necessarily kill...