Questions about ERP system
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Personally in Singapore, i find that private cars in Singapore is more of a luxury than a neccessity. It is a good idea to use the ERP to slowly force the people to use public transport and cut down on the country usage of oil.
That said however, the guys running the LTA have some serious issues. Ok fine you want to cut down on traffic jams and encourage the people to use public transport, but could they make sure the public transport infrastructure could handle the influx of people before they go trigger happy with the ERPs ?
The MRT is already maxed out when our population suddenly went from 4.5mil to 6.5mil, you simply can't increase the frequency of the trains any more. The circle line is only going to operate in the southern side of the country so it's hardly going to make much of a dent with the crowd. So far the only token gesture is the introduction of bus that runs parallel with the train lines.
My beef with the ERP now is that transport vehicles(Lorries, vans..etc) are expected to pay the same amount as private transports. Surely they could be given a rebate since they're needed for a functioning economy and to contain inflation. It's not like they could chose not to use the expressways and enter the CBD.
Are you serious that the public transport are being charged too ? I've never heard of it and never paid attention to whether buses have that cash card thing. I'm take a closer look next time.
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Originally posted by freedom4ever:
ya lor. go ask him. he is the one that tell us that ERP help us own more cars de.
next time he will tell you ERP is to help govt get more pay.
Mercenary ruling party knows that ERP does not help to solve problem. They still go ahead building so many gantries for collecting money to serve their pockets. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Mercenary ruling party knows that ERP does not help to solve problem. They still go ahead building so many gantries for collecting money to serve their pockets.they want act blur mah. i also know after next elections, they going to up GST again. Then give you GST rebate over the next 5 years. then elections again. then people see govt every years give money then vote for them. then after election up GST again. then give money over the next 5 years.
some people realised this but most do not.
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Personaly I feel tat the population should not be increased to such a high amount... singapore is just too small...
And about ERP, it is not a bad idea in the way tat in a city with a high population density, control of cars is always a problem. Either car is very expensive to own or cars r always caught in a jam. U can solve the problem with more roads, but it is gonna cost especially with the small land size of singapore.
The best model is tat people own car, however use it only in selected occasions. Tis offer some flexibility among the two other options. Normally u go to work taking the public transport. If u wake up late one day, u have the option to save yourself by driving over to work. If u wanna bring your girlfriend for a date, u have the option of spending the ERP charges and use the car to fetch her. U get a smooth ride and u get to have a car
Maybe can think of it in the economics sense ba... the roads r limited while the drivers r a lot. Some form of economy should be present to ensure the supply (road) is used for the demand (drivers). If there is no control, then the supply cannot fulfilled the overwhelming demand and roads r jammed. The way to control tis supply and demand is done by setting price changes, which becomes the ERP. If u wanna use more of such resources, u pay more tax which help the people who do not have a car.
Tat is why tis system is adopted by some countries now.
anway just my two cents worth on ERP.......................................
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well i guess theres going to be another increment in the pay checks pretty soon and the fat bonus thats why they are accumulating the reserves now. and dun forget we all got the surplus payout. how you think they are going to get it back =)
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Few years later....
Year 2015
Just Now
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Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:
most ridiculous thing is to charge it to public transportation.
very well said
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they should give rebates on erp to commercial vehicles. they arent a luxury. they are needed to keep business going. public transport shouldnt be subject to erp tax.
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Its simple dude
ERP = $and many more.
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
they should give rebates on erp to commercial vehicles. they arent a luxury. they are needed to keep business going. public transport shouldnt be subject to erp tax.
i remember vividly there was 1 forumer who said public transport were not subjected to erp.crap. pathetic.