Education: SG vs Commonwealth system
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Which one do u think offers a higher quality of education?
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What is your definition of "higher quality of education"?
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Definite commonwealth system while you're at it too please.
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Define sorry, damn these typos.
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comonwealth system of education is one which u find in comonwealth countries, basically western system of education. sg system is predominantly asian
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No matter what system it is, there are always strategies to beat it and win the majority
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The Group of Eight (Go8) is a coalition of leading Australian universities, intensive in research and comprehensive in general and professional education. The Go8 exists to:
enhance the contribution of its member universities to the nation’s social, economic, cultural and environmental well-being and prosperity;
extend the contribution of its member universities to the generation and preservation of the world’s stock of knowledge;
strengthen Australia’s capacity to engage in and benefit from global developments, respond to global and local challenges;
expand opportunities for Australian students, regardless of background, to participate in higher education of world class.
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Well, you gonna have to define the difference between SG and Commonwealth Education system.
I thought our education system has always been template after the Commonwealth system. Kinda hard to compare
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Well, you gonna have to define the difference between SG and Commonwealth Education system.
I thought our education system has always been template after the Commonwealth system. Kinda hard to compare
template yes, but only in surface material like curriculum...But the diverse democratic learning which is found in the commonwealth is lacking in ours.
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... how do u know they got a diverse democratic learning ?
How come I suddenly feel tat everything can also be complained....
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How abt the no. of nobel laureates... Adelaide Uni and ANU has produced 5 each...
Well you could argue that these unis have a longer history than those in SG....therefore able to produce them.... but singapore so far has produced -.
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I have to agree with stupidissmart.
What makes you think they're really getting diverse democratic learning?
Though i have to agree with Whiskers that Singapore has produced no Nobel Laureates yet but you have already answered yourself, our universities are still very young in comparision and they are more concerned with giving higher education than research atm.
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Originally posted by whiskers:
How abt the no. of nobel laureates... Adelaide Uni and ANU has produced 5 each...
Well you could argue that these unis have a longer history than those in SG....therefore able to produce them.... but singapore so far has produced -.
the fact that those Aus unis are able to produce them is due to the fact that their learning is not repressed . it s not how long those Unis are around.
but here in sg, the kind of learning doesnt even stimulate one's mind to research ATM.
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Originally posted by Melbournite:
Which one do u think offers a higher quality of education?
I do believe that of all the universities the greatest is your own if you could educate yourself while you are receiving your education.
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Originally posted by Melbournite:
template yes, but only in surface material like curriculum...But the diverse democratic learning which is found in the commonwealth is lacking in ours.
What is this "diverse democratic learning"?? Are you refering to the Liberal Arts?
If by anything, the real problem in Singapore for our engineers in particular is a lack of exposure to "proper real life engineering". This is largely due to our economy lacking a diverse array of engineering jobs. An engineer is only as good as his skills and experience. Both of which need serious nurturing. -
the fact that those Aus unis are able to produce them is due to the fact that their learning is not repressed . it s not how long those Unis are around.
but here in sg, the kind of learning doesnt even stimulate one's mind to research ATM.
....I can't really see what you mean by repressed learning. It's not like we're a communist/theocratic state and prohibited to research certain sciences. Our universities are still young by comparsion to say harvard and cambridge, i say give them time.
The answer is perhaps much simpler, because our ancestors are migrant workers they would prefer that their children find a job in the outside world after their studies than be a scholar.
I mean, from young we are taught to study hard and find a decent paying job. Being a researcher/scholar sounds too vague a future for their pragmatic way of looking at things. At least, that's how i see it.
Whether we want to be stimulated to learn more and do research is up to our own personal choices. Our education system needs work yes but so far it has done a adequate job.
Shouldn't we blame parents first for not giving their chilldren the curiousity and mental stimulations before we push all the blame to the education system? They're only in charge of giving the information and knowledge, how we chose to utillize it is not for them to be responsible for.
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My school is in there... YEA!
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Originally posted by robertteh:
I do believe that of all the universities the greatest is your own if you could educate yourself while you are receiving your education.
This is one of the few sensible statements I've read in this forum. The illerate people are not the uneducated people. Many schools and universities impact knowledge, but not much in terms of education.For imparting knowledge, NUS does too well, but sad to say not so much in education.
Not all the universities in Australia are good at all subjects. Achitecture firms in Singapore prefer local graduates than OZ graduates, and they pay local graduates higher.
One thing for sure, if you want easy life in the university, go Australian.
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Originally posted by robertteh:
I do believe that of all the universities the greatest is your own if you could educate yourself while you are receiving your education.
NUS is the absolute BEST! and that's not coming just from me. -
Originally posted by sgdiehard:
This is one of the few sensible statements I've read in this forum. The illerate people are not the uneducated people. Many schools and universities impact knowledge, but not much in terms of education.For imparting knowledge, NUS does too well, but sad to say not so much in education.
Not all the universities in Australia are good at all subjects. Achitecture firms in Singapore prefer local graduates than OZ graduates, and they pay local graduates higher.
One thing for sure, if you want easy life in the university, go Australian.
well easy life does not mean its lousy degree u getting.what about AUS degree grads?..they are getting paid higher over there than in singapore...So does that mean sg grad getting lower paid are having lousier degree?
Its because aus uni dont belive in repressive learning...
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Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:
What is this "diverse democratic learning"?? Are you refering to the Liberal Arts?
If by anything, the real problem in Singapore for our engineers in particular is a lack of exposure to "proper real life engineering". This is largely due to our economy lacking a diverse array of engineering jobs. An engineer is only as good as his skills and experience. Both of which need serious nurturing.i agree with u, engineering in singapore is close to useless...My nephew studied it in poly in the late 1990s and he says its just like studying pre school..facts book and calculations and cough them all out during exams.
I think even business dip is better than engineering
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Originally posted by Melbournite:
well easy life does not mean its lousy degree u getting.what about AUS degree grads?..they are getting paid higher over there than in singapore...So does that mean sg grad getting lower paid are having lousier degree?
Its because aus uni dont belive in repressive learning...
you haven't answered the question, what is repressive learning? and for your info, fresh graduate from AUS are not paid any higher than the local grads for sure. And even in Singapore, the SMU grads in business are getting higher pay than those from NUS. It is not just the universities that counts, and definitely not because those are australian universities!! the days when everything overseas are better are gone, that you can take it to the bank. -
Originally posted by redDUST:
NUS is the absolute BEST! and that's not coming just from me.IF NUS is best, why does AUs ask for work expereince of 5 years to apply for PR?
Let me tell u the story, unlike AUS Uni, they dont want graduate who vomit facts during exam and not know anything about real life working...
And NUS grad get job offer before graduatiion is because foreign MNC can only tap into the local market due to the grads familiarity with the country.. Now that the floodgates are opened for FT, NUS grad is close to nothing ..
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
This is one of the few sensible statements I've read in this forum. The illerate people are not the uneducated people. Many schools and universities impact knowledge, but not much in terms of education.For imparting knowledge, NUS does too well, but sad to say not so much in education.
Not all the universities in Australia are good at all subjects. Achitecture firms in Singapore prefer local graduates than OZ graduates, and they pay local graduates higher.
One thing for sure, if you want easy life in the university, go Australian.
sgd,
whether you get an education in nus or not, or anywhere else, depends on yourself. you make the best of the situation you are in. how involved you are, your outlook and what you want to get out of the 3/4 years in tertiary or any school will pad on to the knowledge that will come as standard.
fancy you generalizing about nus. are you a nus grad? otherwise, you should refrain from talking about things you have not experienced 1st hand. if you are, don't blame the uni for the lack of education you received. i am not sure what is your inadequacy. maybe you can share. do you even know what you are talking about.
your last statement is equally shallow, give credit where credit is due. australia, amongst other countries, are recognized for their world class tertiary education offered to the masses. btw, what is an `easy life' in your view?
lastly, robertteh's comment is nothing sensible. what he said is true, however, it is the most partial view anyone with strong emotional attachment to anything(school included) will say.
BK's swiss double cheese is the best burger in the world wide world. a sensible statement?
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Originally posted by Melbournite:
IF NUS is best, why does AUs ask for work expereince of 5 years to apply for PR?
Let me tell u the story, unlike AUS Uni, they dont want graduate who vomit facts during exam and not know anything about real life working...
And NUS grad get job offer before graduatiion is because foreign MNC can only tap into the local market due to the grads familiarity with the country.. Now that the floodgates are opened for FT, NUS grad is close to nothing ..
Was just wondering, you went to universities in Singapore and Australia ? I didn't attend NUS so I can't really compare.