Oz radio announcer suggest ABC drug reporter escape fr SG
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This is too much! Too much!
How can a Oz newspaper allow a article suggest the suspected ABC
drug trafficker 'Get out of Singapore'?
the worst is that the article is written by a Oz radio announcer!!
I think The High Commissioner of Singapore to Oz shall protest
to this article.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24066623-5017701,00.html
Get out of Singapore, Peter
July 24, 2008 12:00am
I CAST my memory back to an Australian-born blonde, who was arrested in Bangkok in 1996 for smuggling drugs.
With 4kg of cannabis and 500 amphetamine tablets, she faced a death sentence. There she sat, curled up and weeping, inside Lard Yao women's prison, also known as the "Bangkok Hilton".
To describe this facility as dangerous and disgusting is supremely generous. She was sitting with 120 other women, in a rat-infested dorm.
Soon after, her rich daddy came to the rescue, posting $80,000 bail. An Australian Embassy car took her from prison and she was never seen in public again.
Twelve years later, Lisa Marie Smith remains one of the world's most wanted fugitives.
Some reports say she could be in Europe, maybe Greece, where she has undergone cosmetic surgery to avoid detection.
Australian Peter Lloyd, a well-read journalist who has reported on the fate of Schapelle Corby and the Bali Nine, may well have thought of Lisa Marie Smith's escape when he was granted release from a Singapore jail yesterday after posting $45,000 bail.
Escape is a risky manoeuvre. If it backfires, it could see him slapped with 20 additional years on whatever sentence he got if found guilty for drug trafficking and/or possession of the drug ice.
Is there room, secretly, to adopt the Michelle Leslie strategy, and pay his way out of the more serious charges? In the days after her arrest, Leslie's boyfriend made a series of cash transfers, which have since been alleged to be the first steps towards bribing her way out of police custody.
That is justice Bali-style, but in strict Singapore that could see him face further charges.
Instead he could defend his serious charges of seemingly indefensible proportions - a perilous route to traverse.
Not for me, not ever. He should flee the region at the first opportunity. I would, without question.
Walking into one of Asia's most filthy and intimidating jails will immediately convert anyone to angelic pursuits. Whether it's Singapore's Changi Prison, or Bangkok's Bang Kwang maximum-security jail, it's enough to bring on acute nausea.
At the latter jail, nearly 8000 men in death row conditions serve sentences of 20 years or more for big-ticket crimes - from drug smuggling to murder.
I met convicted drug trafficker Paul Hudson there in the '80s. Maybe it was the ball and chain that threw me most; then again, the decrepit and putrid group cells turned my stomach.
Then there was the sight of the late Australian League player Paul Hayward, shivering and sickly in his cell. The armed guards had this sneering nastiness, like some tatty gang of bandits ready to maim the next prisoner who stepped out of line.
These are the realities now facing our alleged drug trafficker and popular TV reporter as he contemplates life in his own unmitigated hell hole. He has lost his career. He now risks contracting disease, such as HIV through prison rape. And reports of his status as a gay man will not help.
My advice is to run, Peter, run - because there's a ball and chain with your name on it.
Why your first-hand experiences of life inside such deadly squalor, gained as a reporter, were not enough to steer you clear of trouble in this region, is an unfathomable mystery to me.
Chris Smith is the afternoon announcer for Sydney radio station 2GB.
2.Pl also read
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/index/0,,5017701,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24054978-5017701,00.html
Western clout to protect our own
IF you've been having trouble sleeping lately, consider the thoughts that must have been keeping journalist Peter Lloyd awake these past few nights.
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This Chris Smith is not a small fly---
Programme Director, award winner radio presenter,author etc.
So I am very disappointed and angry that a man of this kind of
calibre in Oz proposes drug suspect escape from Singapore.
http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=105
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he is not suggesting anything offiensive i believe...but something hidden in the lines betweenChangi and Bankok jails ect...Cant be sure, maybe heis meaning to say something degrading about singapore,
But i agree Loyd with his expereince as a journalist should know better not to mess around with drug laws in s'pore.. He is not an ordinary ignorant aussie, he is well travelled and knowledgeable, probably complacency did him in.
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let's hope this chris's kids do drugs and we watch from the sidelines
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It a waste we can't 'HANG' this one.....
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well, (ugly) singaporeans rear its ugly heads (once again).
i don't know why folks need to resort to such comments above. if the guy down under makes a silly remark, do we need to dumb down to be a few notches lower?
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everyone is ugly...it's jus who is uglier, that's all
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Originally posted by Cowbaycowboo:
everyone is ugly...it's jus who is uglier, that's all
yes bro, you said it all and you said it well,
"typically singaporean way :p"
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'This One' is NOT the Chris Smith.....
But the one catch in S'pore.... because he had 'ICE' on him, not anything 'Stronger'....
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i guess if noisy lion try to nitpick on aussies, just one comment nia and he blows up
wow, gracious singaporean indeed
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it's not a matter of strength......any found in this list and above the stipulated amount is .....
Amount of controlled drugs that would qualify as drug trafficking
The Singapore embarkation card contains a warning to visitors about the death penalty for drug trafficking. Warning signs can be found at the Johor-Singapore Causeway and other border entries. Singapore Airlines also announces similar warnings to air passengers during flights to the country.
Section 17 of the Misuse of Drugs Act lists the amount of controlled drugs beyond which, the person who carries them shall be presumed to possess them for the purpose of drug trafficking unless proven otherwise:
- Opium: 100 grammes
- Morphine: 3 grammes
- Diamorphine (Heroin): 2 grammes
- Cannabis: 15 grammes
- Cannabis mixture: 30 grammes
- Cannabis resin: 10 grammes
- Cocaine: 3 grammes
- Methamphetamine: 25 grammes
- 10 grammes of any or any combination of the following:
It should be noted that, unless authorized by the government, the possession, consumption, manufacturing, import, export, or trafficking of these and other controlled drugs in any amount are illegal.
[edit] Schedule I - Controlled Drugs
[edit] Class A - Part I
Some examples include:
- Amphetamine
- Buprenorphine
- Cannabinol (and derivatives)
- Cannabis
- Cocaine (in all forms, including coca leaf)
- Dextroamphetamine
- Desomorphine
- Ecgonine (any derivative of ecgonine which is convertible to ecgonine or to cocaine)
- Fentanyl (and all its analogues, ie. alphamethylfentanyl (AMF; China White), alfentanil, sufentanil, carfentanil, etc)
- MDMA (Ecstasy)
- Mescaline
- Methamphetamine
- Methaqualone
- Morphine and Heroin
- Nimetazepam
- Opium
- Pentobarbital
- Phencyclidine (PCP)
- Psilocin and Psilocybine
- Secobarbital
- Temazepam
[edit] Schedule II
[edit] Class B - Part II
Some examples include:
- Acetyldihydrocodeine
- Amobarbital
- Aprobarbital
- Butabarbital
- Codeine
- Crotylbarbital
- Dextropropoxyphene
- Dihydrocodeine
- Ethylmorphine
- Ketamine
- Hexobarbital
- Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
- Nicocodeine
- Pholcodine
[edit] Class C - Part III
Some examples include:
- Benzphetamine
- Chlorphentermine
- Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol)
- Flutoprazepam (Restas)
- Mephentermine
- Pipradrol
- Triazolam (Halcion)
[edit] Part IV
For the purposes of this Paragraph:
- cannabinol derivatives means the following substances, namely tetrahydro derivatives of cannabinol and their carboxylic acid derivatives, and 3-alkyl homologues of cannabinol or its tetrahydro derivatives;
- coca leaf means the leaf of any plant of the genus Erythroxylon from whose leaves cocaine can be extracted either directly or by chemical transformation;
- concentrate of opium poppy-straw means the material produced when poppy-straw has entered into a process for the concentration of its alkaloids;
- opium poppy means any plant from which morphine may be produced;
- preparation means a mixture, solid or liquid, containing a controlled drug;
- poppy-straw means all parts, except the seeds, of the opium poppy, after mowing.
[edit] Schedule III
[edit] Controlled equipment, materials or substances useful for manufacturing controlled drugs
- Part I
- 1-Phenyl-2-propanone also known as Phenylacetone
- 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone
- Camazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam also known as (9-chloro-2-methyl-3-oxo-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-4-yl) N,N-dimethylcarbamate
- Clonazepam also known as 6-(2-chlorophenyl)-9-nitro-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
- Diazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 7-chloro-1-methyl-5-phenyl-1,3-dihydro-2H-1,4-benzodiazepin-2-one
- Ephedrine also known as (1R,2S)-2-(methylamino)-1-phenylpropan-1-ol
- Ergometrine also known as Ergonovine or Ergobasine
- Ergotamine also known as Ergotaman-3',6',18-trione, 12'-hydroxy-2'-methyl-5'-(phenylmethyl)-, (5'-alpha)- (9CI)
- Estazolam (may be used to manufacture triazolam) also known as 8-Chloro-6-phenyl-4H-1,2,4-triazolo(4,3-a)-1,4-benzodiazepine
- Isosafrole also known as 1,2-(Methylenedioxy)-4-propenylbenzene
- Lorazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 9-chloro-6-(2-chlorophenyl)-4-hydroxy-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
- Lormetazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 9-chloro-6-(2-chlorophenyl)-4-hydroxy-2-methyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
- Lysergic acid also known as 9,10-didehydro-6-methylergoline-8-carboxylic acid
- N-acetylanthranilic acid also known as N-Acetyl-o-aminobenzoic acid
- Nitrazepam (may be used to manufacture flunitrazepam and nimetazepam) also known as 9-nitro-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
- Oxazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 9-chloro-4-hydroxy-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
- Piperonal also known as 3,4-(Methylenedioxy)benzaldehyde or Piperonylaldehyde
- Prazepam (may be used to manufacture flutoprazepam) also known as 9-chloro-2-(cyclopropylmethyl)-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
- Pseudoephedrine also known as β-Hydroxy-N-methylamphetamine
- Safrole also known as 4-Allyl-1,2-methylenedioxybenzene
- Part II
- Acetic anhydride also known as Acetic oxide
- Acetone also known as 2-Propanone or Dimethyl ketone
- Anthranilic acid also known as o-Aminobenzoic acid
- Ethyl ether also known as Ether or Diethyl ether or Ethyl oxide or Diethyl oxide or Ethoxyethane or 1, 1'-Oxybisethane
- Hydrochloric acid
- Methyl ethyl ketone also known as 2-Butanone
- Phenylacetic acid also known as Benzeneacetic acid or a-Toluic acid
- Piperidine also known as Hexahydropyridine
- Potassium permanganate
- Sulphuric acid
- Toluene also known as Methylbenzene or Phenylmethane
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I don't see anything offensive. It's more of a mentality issue. Whether Mr Peter would do it is another issue.
Not for me, not ever. He should flee the region at the first opportunity. I would, without question.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
i guess if noisy lion try to nitpick on aussies, just one comment nia and he blows up
wow, gracious singaporean indeed
singaporean typically cowbaycowboo u mean -
Don't do drugs if he cannot afford to get caught.
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it goes to show many folks out there still think with their "little head" and not the one on top...depsite SG being worldwide infamous on her stance on drugs....and worse...the offenders are high profiled & learned some more....not some illiterate ah bengs or ah kows
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which report is more disturbing.. a drug charged journalist or, a PR in SG demanding the rights equivalent to a SG citizens but not the NS obligation and behave more audacious and arrogant toward the citizens?
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Originally posted by fishbuff1:
which report is more disturbing.. a drug charged journalist or, a PR in SG demanding the rights equivalent to a SG citizens but not the NS obligation and behave more audacious and arrogant toward the citizens?
Lets discuss one by one.But pl dunt mix up.
I am suprised that u guys dunt think Smith calling Lloyd
just escape from SG.
It is clear from ''Get out of Singapore,Peter'' by Chris Smith
July 24, 2008 suggesting Lloyd just run away from SG.1.He quoted the case of Lisa Marie Smith who jumped bailand disappeared.2.Instead he could defend his serious charges of seemingly indefensible proportions - a perilous route to traverse. .....
These are the realities now facing our alleged drug trafficker and popular TV reporter as he contemplates life in his own unmitigated hell hole. He has lost his career. He now risks contracting disease, such as HIV through prison rape. And reports of his status as a gay man will not help.
My advice is to run, Peter, run - because there's a ball and chain with your name on it.
..the last paragraph i quote shows Smith smpathay with Lloyd
of possible contracting HIV through prison rape to support
Lloyd to jump bail.
This is damn clear of Smith's intentions.
Pl Smith's profile---sure not a junior reporter to catch attention.
4.Pl correct me if my poor English read Smith's mind wrongly...
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Lloyd said he would not jump bail,though some people calling
he do it.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24084693-601,00.html
I will not flee: ABC reporter
July 27, 2008
ABC foreign correspondent Peter Lloyd has vowed to stay in Singapore to face drug charges that could put him in jail for 20 years.
While there have been calls for him to run, Lloyd, 41, told The Sun-Herald yesterday: "I've never ever considered attempting to flee. I will remain in Singapore."....
Some commentators have suggested Lloyd should jump bail and run. The legal source said if he did he would never be able to return to Australia due to an extradition agreement between the countries.
"If I were to jump, I would not go to a country with a treaty. I should go to Indonesia or Thailand. I have seen some people do it," he said.
- AAPu guys just too generous with Oz medias.
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Nightmares ... ABC foreign correspondent Peter Lloyd in Singapore.
Photo: Jared Wonghttp://www.smh.com.au/news/world/i-was-too-afraid-to-sleep-peter-lloyd/2008/07/26/1216492803325.html
I was too afraid to sleep
same news as above.i dunt quote his private life here.
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read the Oz medias lately so u can understand some of their views better.
Who dunt know SG is a dictator's country?
I am proud to be one of the en-slaved citizen!!
We need not scrap to the back page of Status to get laws
to fix any one who sells drugs.
Our penalty is inhuman.But to distribute drugs then destory
lifes of drugs addicts and their family is worse.
So SG is ,again,proud to be inhuman to prevent more addicts and their
family to be destoryed.
If there are two evils we have to choose one.We choose the
less.
u have been warned and still sell drugs here!!
How brave u are!!
2.Sell drugs and still not hurting anyone?
SG people.WE have a big culture gap here with Oz about drugs.
In down under,some 40% of adults have tried illict drugs.
http://www.crikey.com.au/Your-Say/20080722-Comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups.html
Statistics from the Illicit Drug Reporting Survey indicate that at least 40% of adult Australians have used an illicit drug at some point during their lives -- overwhelmingly they do not go on to become regular and problematic users, instead they are indistinguishable from other members of the community.
Some of them become addicted.
u can get drugs there much easier than SG.
http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/07/30/Singapore_sux
Singapore sux
30/07/2008 9:48:00 AM. | Tim Brunero
So if the Singaporean government, which by the way is a virtual dictatorship, wants to crack down on stuff - why not start on employment law?
That might be a good idea - instead of scraping the barrel to find new, interesting and ridiculous laws to charge Peter Lloyd with. A guy who wasn’t hurting anyone. -
Can always rely on lionnoisy to badmouth Australia.
lionnoisy, any other bad news from Australia today?
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Actually his threads have become so boring that it's more of him talking to himself then anything else...
Firstly his posts are hard to read.
Secondly they don't make much sense.
Thirdly, he never varies his arguments at all.
Fourthly and most importantly, nobody really bothers with him anymore, for the reason he's a defeated force in here.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Actually his threads have become so boring that it's more of him talking to himself then anything else...
Firstly his posts are hard to read.
Secondly they don't make much sense.
Thirdly, he never varies his arguments at all.
Fourthly and most importantly, nobody really bothers with him anymore, for the reason he's a defeated force in here.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Actually his threads have become so boring that it's more of him talking to himself then anything else...
Firstly his posts are hard to read.
Secondly they don't make much sense.
Thirdly, he never varies his arguments at all.
Fourthly and most importantly, nobody really bothers with him anymore, for the reason he's a defeated force in here.
ditto
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dunno if some of the crazy forumers here are really crazy in real life
edit: his gay partner
