I think I'm quite tired of all this talk about voting in the opposition and seeking political space when they are not willing to give any.This is a nation where if you question the credibility of Lee Kuan Yew,its viewed as something he can profit from via lawsuit.He's overstayed his time in office.
To quote Harvey Dent(or is it Bruce Wayne?); "You either live long enough to see yourself become a villain or die a hero."
At this point in time Lee Kuan Yew wields close to absolute power.He wields enormous influence in the political and economic spheres by virtue of his wealth as well as enormous control of the media,via political machinery of the PAP.
He is an elder statesmen,formerly respected by many, that has overstayed his time.
The PAP senior cadres and associated supporters are able to generate enough public noise that they can drown out the voices of the opposition in public.The police are not inclined to grant licenses for the opposition to hold rallies but behave rather differently with the PAP.
So what to do?As far as I can see,you either become a reformist within the PAP,join a political party that actually has the cunning and intellect to wait out the old bastard or quite politics altogether.
The best time to confront the PAP is when LKY finally dies.His legacy will be entrenched in the system but without his strong personality to drive it as much they will be prey.Similarly,a large party like the PAP has enormous discipline but I doubt LHL can hold it together without the influence of his father.
The PAP will splinter,the excesses of the system will be exposed and that is the time to confront the PAP.
Otherwise,next election,the civil service will work some magic, redraw election boundaries and once more we'll be stuck in our self-imposed gilded bird cage.
Hope that old bastard Lee Kuan Yew dies off soon.
The mental suffering can finally come to an end in Singapore.
Everyone will be freed.
Originally posted by Sardaukar-Prime:I think I'm quite tired of all this talk about voting in the opposition and seeking political space when they are not willing to give any.This is a nation where if you question the credibility of Lee Kuan Yew,its viewed as something he can profit from via lawsuit.He's overstayed his time in office.
To quote Harvey Dent(or is it Bruce Wayne?); "You either live long enough to see yourself become a villain or die a hero."
At this point in time Lee Kuan Yew wields close to absolute power.He wields enormous influence in the political and economic spheres by virtue of his wealth as well as enormous control of the media,via political machinery of the PAP.He is an elder statesmen,formerly respected by many, that has overstayed his time.
The PAP senior cadres and associated supporters are able to generate enough public noise that they can drown out the voices of the opposition in public.The police are not inclined to grant licenses for the opposition to hold rallies but behave rather differently with the PAP.
So what to do?As far as I can see,you either become a reformist within the PAP,join a political party that actually has the cunning and intellect to wait out the old bastard or quite politics altogether.
The best time to confront the PAP is when LKY finally dies.His legacy will be entrenched in the system but without his strong personality to drive it as much they will be prey.Similarly,a large party like the PAP has enormous discipline but I doubt LHL can hold it together without the influence of his father.
The PAP will splinter,the excesses of the system will be exposed and that is the time to confront the PAP.
Otherwise,next election,the civil service will work some magic, redraw election boundaries and once more we'll be stuck in our self-imposed gilded bird cage.
ok, we shall wait for him to pass on.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Hope that old bastard Lee Kuan Yew dies off soon.
The mental suffering can finally come to an end in Singapore.
Everyone will be freed.
We need to have faith.
Originally posted by Sardaukar-Prime:I think I'm quite tired of all this talk about voting in the opposition and seeking political space when they are not willing to give any.This is a nation where if you question the credibility of Lee Kuan Yew,its viewed as something he can profit from via lawsuit.He's overstayed his time in office.
To quote Harvey Dent(or is it Bruce Wayne?); "You either live long enough to see yourself become a villain or die a hero."
At this point in time Lee Kuan Yew wields close to absolute power.He wields enormous influence in the political and economic spheres by virtue of his wealth as well as enormous control of the media,via political machinery of the PAP.He is an elder statesmen,formerly respected by many, that has overstayed his time.
The PAP senior cadres and associated supporters are able to generate enough public noise that they can drown out the voices of the opposition in public.The police are not inclined to grant licenses for the opposition to hold rallies but behave rather differently with the PAP.
So what to do?As far as I can see,you either become a reformist within the PAP,join a political party that actually has the cunning and intellect to wait out the old bastard or quite politics altogether.
The best time to confront the PAP is when LKY finally dies.His legacy will be entrenched in the system but without his strong personality to drive it as much they will be prey.Similarly,a large party like the PAP has enormous discipline but I doubt LHL can hold it together without the influence of his father.
The PAP will splinter,the excesses of the system will be exposed and that is the time to confront the PAP.
Otherwise,next election,the civil service will work some magic, redraw election boundaries and once more we'll be stuck in our self-imposed gilded bird cage.
Time is always the solution to all problems :P
Lky is the obstacle.
But then most agree that LKY is the only person who can guide this country. He is a strong and determined character. I don't know if singapore can survive without him.
Originally posted by Beautiful951:But then most agree that LKY is the only person who can guide this country. He is a strong and determined character. I don't know if singapore can survive without him.
Ahlo, other countries survive without LKY. LKY is dispensable.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Ahlo, other countries survive without LKY. LKY is dispensable.
Ok but then singapore will be totally different without him. Fantagf, you been busy these few days?
Originally posted by Beautiful951:Ok but then singapore will be totally different without him. Fantagf, you been busy these few days?
Why worry? The old man said himself that without him there will be his other members of Pay and Pay, without him Singapore is strong enough to survive. Don't overrate him. Without his manipulation of the law, media, instilling fear, attack/bankrupting the oppositions and so on he will not be able to control and run Singapore.
Actually come to think of it, a Country without character or history and culture like Singapore. needs a dictator to put things in the one and only direction.
If the top or head of our country is fickle and cannot make decisions and put the government and people to the test, then we would have easily followed the ways of the political UMNO.
Singapore may be what it is now. Sentosa may be jolly well be some rich Datuk's Golf Club instead of what it is now.
Until that time comes when we reached the point of change , this cultureless people Just follow LAW.
Originally posted by OH-FF:Actually come to think of it, a Country without character or history and culture like Singapore. needs a dictator to put things in the one and only direction.
If the top or head of our country is fickle and cannot make decisions and put the government and people to the test, then we would have easily followed the ways of the political UMNO.
Singapore may be what it is now. Sentosa may be jolly well be some rich Datuk's Golf Club instead of what it is now.
Until that time comes when we reached the point of change , this cultureless people Just follow LAW.
No country need any dictators to run the country, Singapore included. Leaders of the countries should work on the interests of the people and not self serving like LKY and his party.
Originally posted by Sardaukar-Prime:I think I'm quite tired of all this talk about voting in the opposition and seeking political space when they are not willing to give any.This is a nation where if you question the credibility of Lee Kuan Yew,its viewed as something he can profit from via lawsuit.He's overstayed his time in office.
To quote Harvey Dent(or is it Bruce Wayne?); "You either live long enough to see yourself become a villain or die a hero."
At this point in time Lee Kuan Yew wields close to absolute power.He wields enormous influence in the political and economic spheres by virtue of his wealth as well as enormous control of the media,via political machinery of the PAP.He is an elder statesmen,formerly respected by many, that has overstayed his time.
The PAP senior cadres and associated supporters are able to generate enough public noise that they can drown out the voices of the opposition in public.The police are not inclined to grant licenses for the opposition to hold rallies but behave rather differently with the PAP.
So what to do?As far as I can see,you either become a reformist within the PAP,join a political party that actually has the cunning and intellect to wait out the old bastard or quite politics altogether.
The best time to confront the PAP is when LKY finally dies.His legacy will be entrenched in the system but without his strong personality to drive it as much they will be prey.Similarly,a large party like the PAP has enormous discipline but I doubt LHL can hold it together without the influence of his father.
The PAP will splinter,the excesses of the system will be exposed and that is the time to confront the PAP.
Otherwise,next election,the civil service will work some magic, redraw election boundaries and once more we'll be stuck in our self-imposed gilded bird cage.
His legacy is that of a public money grabbing despot... but he is dying soon, give the man a break... give him a kit kat. hahaha...
edited to change kit kat to kick kat...
Where's LIES? Normally he will join this type of discussion with his "OMFGWTF PAP PWNZOR" logic.
Originally posted by Super.pray:Unhappy with an over-stayer? Need heavenly justice?
Use the divine power!
I don't think people will pay.
Please hor, when suharto left indonesia, it went into a chaotic period and till now it have never recover and in poor economy status, when Marcos left Philipines, same thing happen, worst than before, then Mahatir give way in Malaysia, look at what happening, and when Thakshin overthrow in thailand, thailand is getting worst off, let leave LKY alone, like it or not, without him, you and me may not be even posting here.
But Lee Kuan Yew sooner or later will drop dead.
That is inevitable.
I am hoping that it happens quickly.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:But Lee Kuan Yew sooner or later will drop dead.
That is inevitable.
I am hoping that it happens quickly.
According to angel's post, singapore may not be able to hold on without him.
Originally posted by Beautiful951:
According to angel's post, singapore may not be able to hold on without him.
Objection, i did not say that, i just said that like it or not, without LKY leadership in the begining till now, we may not be what we are now, in my upperstair aircon room, shake legs, posting and drinking starbuck Frappacino. If he die, which he and all of us one day must die, that is not the issue.
My opinion on Lee Kuan Yew is that he must die now.
Singapore cannot progress as long as he is alive.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:My opinion on Lee Kuan Yew is that he must die now.
Singapore cannot progress as long as he is alive.
Aiyo, Uncle,
u r overly obessed with his death, hv u notice that after he died, you got nothing to talk about, and it will be boring for you.
I only want to know who will be the next dick-tator?
Who do you vote or want to be the next ONE?
Hopefully by then this one will not be a bankruptee.
Originally posted by angel7030:Please hor, when suharto left indonesia, it went into a chaotic period and till now it have never recover and in poor economy status, when Marcos left Philipines, same thing happen, worst than before, then Mahatir give way in Malaysia, look at what happening, and when Thakshin overthrow in thailand, thailand is getting worst off, let leave LKY alone, like it or not, without him, you and me may not be even posting here.
No need overrate lky. Without manipulation, he will not be able to get where he is. loser.