Some Degree Courses = Not "Economic" for Livelihood in SG ?
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If given a choice, what degree courses you actually have the interest to pursue in, but given the fact that in order to survive in economic-driven Singapore, it is thus not "economic-viable" to recommend/advisable to major in... therefore, you only can keep it as a hobby...
e.g. Anthropology -
take the "mass market" degree and you will be fighting for one job with the mass market...
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i will take somewhere between the economically viable mass market degree and exclusive low profile one
eg. Defence, Environment, Psychology, Transport studies .
Better to be in the gray area.
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
take the "mass market" degree and you will be fighting for one job with the mass market...
fark, that's like so true .....
now I'm competing with 1.1 billion other people ... haiz ....
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
take the "mass market" degree and you will be fighting for one job with the mass market...
I'm going to steal this ...
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
take the "mass market" degree and you will be fighting for one job with the mass market...
Can you tell us why? oversupply, u mean? -
Originally posted by eac:
If given a choice, what degree courses you actually have the interest to pursue in, but given the fact that in order to survive in economic-driven Singapore, it is thus not "economic-viable" to recommend/advisable to major in... therefore, you only can keep it as a hobby...
e.g. AnthropologyMy personal feeling is this.
Singapore being small, outwardly dependent and open, some jobs can be subjected to economic turns. During the period of Sars and AEC, banking went up the smoke.
Trend and rumour can also drive job fear/hope. Remember the incidents of insurance companies underpayment to policyholders? Insurance selling went up in smoke, now it's back in the vogue. -
Originally posted by 00011000:
Can you tell us why? oversupply, u mean?
govt say IT got prospect...everyone goes into IT...
1 IT vacancy, 10 local IT application...
govt say bio sciences got prospect...
everyone goes into bio sciences...
1 bio science vacancy, 10 local bio sciences application...
govt say IR management got prospect...
everyone goes into IR management...
1 IR management vacancy, 10 local IR management applications...
ok...
now factor in the FT applications...
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
govt say IT got prospect...everyone goes into IT...
1 IT vacancy, 10 local IT application...
govt say bio sciences got prospect...
everyone goes into bio sciences...
1 bio science vacancy, 10 local bio sciences application...
govt say IR management got prospect...
everyone goes into IR management...
1 IR management vacancy, 10 local IR management applications...
ok...
now factor in the FT applications...
Got youir points, not to also mention econ swing......
Just wondering why the govt needs to have the FT scheme which seems to be more of a minus than a plus. -
Originally posted by eac:
If given a choice, what degree courses you actually have the interest to pursue in, but given the fact that in order to survive in economic-driven Singapore, it is thus not "economic-viable" to recommend/advisable to major in... therefore, you only can keep it as a hobby...
e.g. AnthropologyFor me, Astronomy.......see the stars and wonders if there is intelligent life out there.
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Originally posted by 00011000:
For me, Astronomy.......see the stars and wonders if there is intelligent life out there.
This is a tough one... cos there has never been proof of intelligent life ever to exist in the whole wide universe...
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For me Bioscience.... didnt make alot of economical sense but....
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
govt say IT got prospect...everyone goes into IT...
1 IT vacancy, 10 local IT application...
govt say bio sciences got prospect...
everyone goes into bio sciences...
1 bio science vacancy, 10 local bio sciences application...
govt say IR management got prospect...
everyone goes into IR management...
1 IR management vacancy, 10 local IR management applications...
ok...
now factor in the FT applications...
1 IT position ... 10 local applicants .... 1000 foreign talents willing to work at half the salary ...
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nowsaday, even psychology has over 100 uni graduates every year. It is no longer a major which few people wants to take.
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are you feeling the competition?
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Originally posted by Fatum:
1 IT position ... 10 local applicants .... 1000 foreign talents willing to work at half the salary ...
And you forgot to mention the multiplier effect.
Bring one FT in and he brings his 'brother', 'newphew', 'niece', 'cousin', 'village classmate', 'village friend', 'village head', 'clan', 'caste', 'wife brother', 'wife's brother-in-law', 'husband's in-laws brother's daughter's son-in-law' .......... -
Originally posted by whiskers:
For me Bioscience.... didnt make alot of economical sense but....
Me, hav Bioscience and Comp sc background.
My Bioscience mates - 25 students only 5 sgporeans. Sgporeans mostly holding dip or deg. The FT have Master and MBBS, some more than one Master.
For the first time in my life, I feel like an alien in my own country..... -
Originally posted by 4sg:
And you forgot to mention the multiplier effect.
Bring one FT in and he brings his 'brother', 'newphew', 'niece', 'cousin', 'village classmate', 'village friend', 'village head', 'clan', 'caste', 'wife brother', 'wife's brother-in-law', 'husband's in-laws brother's daughter's son-in-law' ..........no lah ... I don't really think so ..... this is Singapore, not the UK, Canada, Australia or the US .....
many see us as only a spring board ..... to jump to a better place ..... THEN, the whole clan will follow ....
I knew an indian born chap in the uni once (in canada) ... he promptly came to Canada after he got his Singapore citizenship ..... started the PR process .... and now he's starting to call himself a canuck ...
despite what other nutters will tell you ... immigration quotas from Singapore to other western countries are routinely underfilled, year after year.... so it's a lot easier to jump over to points west from Singapore, than to fight again a billion other people in their home countries ......
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Those taking engineering are quite jialat. India and China churns out thousands of engineering students each year and the worst part, they are willing to work for a part of their pay
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Originally posted by Fatum:
no lah ... I don't really think so ..... this is Singapore, not the UK, Canada, Australia or the US .....
many see us as only a spring board ..... to jump to a better place ..... THEN, the whole clan will follow ....
I knew an indian born chap in the uni once (in canada) ... he promptly came to Canada after he got his Singapore citizenship ..... started the PR process .... and now he's starting to call himself a canuck ...
despite what other nutters will tell you ... immigration quotas from Singapore to other western countries are routinely underfilled, year after year.... so it's a lot easier to jump over to points west from Singapore, than to fight again a billion other people in their home countries ......
But some like it here leh......Not all will head for Western country. You should meet my classmate. I call him 'R'. With his kind of accent, if he goes western country sure die one.
Problem with my Mr 'R' was that he liked to 'sing' about Sg. At first, I 'sang' along with him. Then I tot wtf and stopped and that was when Mr 'R' got fed-up with me.
Mr "R' is planning for Sg publicity campaign back old country and you can be sure of more of the likes Mr 'R' coming. -
Originally posted by 4sg:
And you forgot to mention the multiplier effect.
Bring one FT in and he brings his 'brother', 'newphew', 'niece', 'cousin', 'village classmate', 'village friend', 'village head', 'clan', 'caste', 'wife brother', 'wife's brother-in-law', 'husband's in-laws brother's daughter's son-in-law' ..........this is the way he can wayang to this village relatives. So that they will pay him lots of money to bring their own kin to him.. bastad
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Originally posted by SPLIT SECOND:
this is the way he can wayang to this village relatives. So that they will pay him lots of money to bring their own kin to him.. bastad
My course over liao. Mr 'R' and me were working adults pursuing a part-time course. At first, I tot he was like me, open-minded. But later, I found that he wasn't.
In his own screwed way, he needed justification that his migration to Sg was right and proper. He seeked to get it out from from me. He needed me to reaffirm that his choice of 'paradise' Sg was correct.
To us Sgporean if we decide to migrate, say Canada, we choose to make our bed and lie down on it. We would never go around asking some Canadians to get affirmation, do we?
The FT and us have diff ways of expressing ourselves, diff ways of viewing things. At first, I went along with him, then I stopped - can't went on bluffing. That was when he turned quite gangsterlike. -
Originally posted by eac:
If given a choice, what degree courses you actually have the interest to pursue in, but given the fact that in order to survive in economic-driven Singapore, it is thus not "economic-viable" to recommend/advisable to major in... therefore, you only can keep it as a hobby...
e.g. Anthropology
Saw today's Classified page (used to cushion my dinner) on Degree in Secretarial Studies!! - Section 651. "Rare" degrees include Shipping Studies and Logistic/ Inventory Supply. Maybe those who want to pursue a Degree can look at the Classified to see what type of "rare" Degrees available. -
hmmmm .... ideas for a thread ...
