MM Lee: Why the need for multi-party politics?
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The political problems faced by many countries in Asia can be traced back to two words: Money politics.
And the reason such troubles have not taken root here? There is no “money politics” in Singapore, and “we have a Division One team in charge”, said Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew last night.
In many Asian countries, money politics is simply the “code word” for buying votes to gain power, and after that is done, “to recover your expenses plus some profit for the next round of vote—buying”, said Mr Lee at the Tanjong Pagar 43rd National Day Celebration Dinner.
“One of the big problems they now face, in other countries, is the people in power want to reserve the money, keep it for themselves. So, they exclude young able people who want to join their team ...
“The result is, there is no talent inside the existing parties.”
Contrast that to Singapore.
“In other countries, elections do not put up a Division One team. They are a Division Three, either a B team or a C team in charge. In Singapore, we carefully select our candidates ...
“Over the years, with each election, we see the quality of the MPs, their education levels, their competence, their abilities, their energy.
“Their youthfulness is renewed and we have a leadership that’s able to meet the rising standards of the population,” said Mr Lee.
But today’s younger generation does not understand all this, the Minister Mentor said.
“They say, oh, let’s have multiparty politics. Let’s have different parties change and be in charge of the Government. Is it that simple? You vote in a Division Three government, not a Division One government, and the whole economy will just subside within three, four years. Finished.”
Such proponents should study Taiwan, Thailand and the Philippines, where rotating party governments have led to more mismanagement. “And a 'freewheeling paress’ has not cleaed up corruption, although according to American 'liberal’ democracy theories, it is designed to do so,” Mr Lee said.
Even in the face of a global recession, Singapore has enough long—term investments to buffer the setbacks, noted Mr Lee.
“Why are we on top of our problem? Because there’s a Government that’s planning ahead, seeing ahead, calculating ahead, making the right decision. Yes, there will be recession around the world. But we will have enough investments already going on,” he said.
As a mentor and advisor to the younger policy—makers, he cited how he backed Singapore’s hosting of the Formula One in September, even though he himself was not a fan. “We cannot stay still. The world has changed — there’s a jetset that travels all over the world because they are interested in the Formula One races. Why? I don’t know.
“I find very little excitement in it. They wheel around and around, and it’s over. And there’s an accident — so what? But I’m told there is tremendous exitement in the way you get the cars, the way you change wheels, the way you drive, and so on,” he said, drawing chuckles from the audience. — TODAY/ra
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MM Lee: Why the need for multi-party politics?
Why need competition in business?
Don't fuck with me Lee Kuan Yew.
It won't work with me.
You can fuck others.
But don't try it with me.
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let's put it that this old generation here also cannot agree with him
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You can't fool me with your bullshit Lee Kuan Yew.
I know too much about you already.
You can go and fuck with those who know nothing except your state propaganda bullshit.
Give me dog.
Give me Lee Kuan Yew.
I'll take the dog.
So how Lee Kuan Yew?
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woah......what is it with you against him?
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Money Politics: Politics who pays themselves millions and wants to keep the millions to themselves and pay them more the next round they get elected. So they prevent other parties from gaining power through judicial persecution, unfair media propaganda and ridiculous drawing of electorial boundaries...
1) MM is directly and indirectly saying all other countries are corrupted! How confident.
2) MM forgot that our current league of MPs are not really the Division One calibre lor.. take Mas Selemat for example.. oops, I forgot, that's our fault.
Hey MM, we don't mind paying you the money but can your team live up to the reputation?
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By his assumption, money politic only happens when there is multi-party system. Money politics does not happen when there is single (PAP) party system.
Does it makes sense? I'm afraid not. It remains an assumption, not a hard and fast formula.
I think less political rivalry and competition but less corruption? Greed understands no boundary. Remember the Teh Cheng Wah case.
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C'mon Singapore! lets overthrow the Lee Dynasty..
I know we can do it as One people, One Nation, One Singapore.
Support the REAL opposition & the TRUE leader like CST & LTK.
CSJ? nah. No Action Talk Only. CST & LTK captured people's heart.
Next election, please think twice before voting. Each vote comes with its Consequences.
And yes, do you want Singapore to have one-party system?
Think about it..
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from what he says about FTs..
FTs serve a purpose to push the citizens by providing competition.. without competition, the citizenry will stagnate and rot instead of improving and excelling...
well, throw that back at the bleached zombie of ah meng..
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Originally posted by the Bear:
from what he says about FTs..
FTs serve a purpose to push the citizens by providing competition.. without competition, the citizenry will stagnate and rot instead of improving and excelling...
well, throw that back at the bleached zombie of ah meng..
The PAP must understand that it cannot has one set of rules for itself but another set of rules for the citizens. -
inspired by Poh Ah Pak..
2010, Monkeys Party vs PAP at Hong Kah GRC
100% i will vote for monkeys party
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Originally posted by 4sg:
The PAP must understand that it cannot has one set of rules for itself but another set of rules for the citizens.the citizens must realise that the gabrament works for them, and not the other way around...
also, the idiots running around shooting off their mouths here in SC must learn that they rant about democracy.. yet they fail to respect it when people who they did not support are voted in..
so, is it democracy they want? or are they just wannabe tinpot dictators at heart?
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Originally posted by the Bear:
the citizens must realise that the gabrament works for them, and not the other way around...
also, the idiots running around shooting off their mouths here in SC must learn that they rant about democracy.. yet they fail to respect it when people who they did not support are voted in..
so, is it democracy they want? or are they just wannabe tinpot dictators at heart?
But most of the votes garnered are from vote buying, threats and media propaganda.What kind of democracy is that?
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When will the senile old man stop self praising and shut his mouth. PUre sign of death akan datang. The more he talks, the more resentment from the people.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
The PAP must understand that it cannot has one set of rules for itself but another set of rules for the citizens.
Double standard -
if LKY die, u guys gonna send condelence or celebrate @ MOS ? lol!
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Originally posted by Ajen:
if LKY die, u guys gonna send condelence or celebrate @ MOS ? lol!
No need condolences, he will have more than enough of that.Celebrate!
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quote from CST
'Absolute Power Corrupt Absolutely'
this quite dedicate to all voters who voted for PAP during the last election (2006)
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Originally posted by Ajen:
if LKY die, u guys gonna send condelence or celebrate @ MOS ? lol!
Celebrate @ his funeral. -
Originally posted by maurizio13:
But most of the votes garnered are from vote buying, threats and media propaganda.What kind of democracy is that?
Well, that's the kind of democracy we chose when we chose not to do otherwise.Any of us can chose to do otherwise, despite the threats, vote buying, and propaganda, but if we did not, then how?
Eg, Company A kept saying its competitors products or services are inferior, and gives you a lot of perks to 'patronise them instead of company B and C. You can chose to buy from A, or you can chose to buy from B or C regardless of the perks offered, or criticisms of B and C.
Just remember we stay stuck with our choices till the next GE... Unlike sales, where you can throw away the products or stop buying and switch back to A.
My view is die die choose B and C regardless what A says is a way of pushing A out of the business, so long as be prepared to bear the consequences of choices, then carry on.