Originally posted by angel7030:The problem is singaporean like to talk only, in actual most end up in Singapore too. Survey only mah, if ask me , i also want to retire at oversea, the best is at some nice resort. But then, our root is here. We love singapore as we are singaporeans, not the govt, not the policies and certainly not the high cost of living. It is a sense of belonging.
bintan and batam also overseas.
suka suka, can just take a boat here to see how singapore's doing.
if things get a bit crowded, toot toot back.
not difficult at all, imo.
Originally posted by angel7030:The problem is singaporean like to talk only, in actual most end up in Singapore too. Survey only mah, if ask me , i also want to retire at oversea, the best is at some nice resort. But then, our root is here. We love singapore as we are singaporeans, not the govt, not the policies and certainly not the high cost of living. It is a sense of belonging.
If by the time retire, same old policies, then will hope to retire somewhere else ba.
But at the moment, I would prefer to work overseas.
This intention has been in the minds of pure bred Singaporeans for a long time. More so when announced that we can't enjoy our CPF at retirement. Now its "what retirement?" , "what CPF"... CPF will be depleted once the baby-boomers reach retirement thats why this policy.
Problem here is not that nobody wants to speak up...its just that nobody wants to be charged for defamation, illegal gathering, demonstrations, etc...
Very siong living here. Looks like its headed for only the rich & since there are so many, its like indirectly telling the others to get out.
Originally posted by eagle:Actually hor, supposed one earns $3k a month from age 25 to age 65, and including a 1 month year end bonus, the total in CPF is around SGD 0.5 mil already (if never buy house using CPF, or use it for anything)
Plus some savings, say 100k.
600k sgd should be enough to survive in a country where everything is cheaper and life is slower right?
That is provided you don't get married lah.
After married then with kids somemore..by 65 yo. your 600K vanish already.
Then you wouldn't know what kind of exchange rate SG vs other currency leh.
Survey is reflecting the reality of what the people want. It is so true about the young twenties group that they want migration. Majority of the people from late teens to early twenties I speak to talk about - study, work, migrate overseas. One poly grad was so happy that he got scholarship from an overseas company to study in UK and thereafter work for them and will settle down in UK and never want to come back live here. he will be making arrangement for his mum to migrate to UK.
Singapore is no longer a place for the born and bred. Sad.
I am hoping to retire overseas.
Originally posted by angel7030:The problem is singaporean like to talk only, in actual most end up in Singapore too. Survey only mah, if ask me , i also want to retire at oversea, the best is at some nice resort. But then, our root is here. We love singapore as we are singaporeans, not the govt, not the policies and certainly not the high cost of living. It is a sense of belonging.
Hello, not everyone is rich to migrate, understand??? I, too, want to migrate but no $$.
Marry a foreigner, tell them don't throw their citizenship, make your dough here & stinge like anything till u reach ur target, collect your bundle & savings after dumping status here, move to spouse country....taadaaaaa..... Never say die!
Originally posted by jojobeach:
That is provided you don't get married lah.After married then with kids somemore..by 65 yo. your 600K vanish already.
Then you wouldn't know what kind of exchange rate SG vs other currency leh.
And also if you settle in those cheaper country, get a young beautiful local woman, she may cut off your 600k in one year. so becareful ya. Many old uncles gong gong kenna tricked.
Originally posted by maurizio13:I am also thinking of retiring overseas, perhaps in another 5-10 years.
I can't afford to pay for their multi million dollar salaries, they just increase my property tax by another 15%.
Sure sure, lower the property tax rate but increase the Annual Value of the property, in the end after taking into effect the lower property tax rate, you still end up paying more for property tax.
They can only trick those without a brain to think for themselves.
They can only trick those without a brain to think for themselves.
Ha ha, without brain ones come here to kpkb pointing fingers at people who are realistic to acknowledge what is going on. Singapore not a place for the born and bred anymore. We know who are/ is responsible that it has ended up this way.
Originally posted by Cn30:Marry a foreigner, tell them don't throw their citizenship, make your dough here & stinge like anything till u reach ur target, collect your bundle & savings after dumping status here, move to spouse country....taadaaaaa..... Never say die!
A friend of mine did it and end up divorce. She forced her ex husband to marry her for the sake of getting PR.
Angel..those r gong gong uncles wife dead or stupid & they r only going for one thing. Let thm lose their money.
Here we r discussing abt real opportunities for real people w real intentions of survival.
Originally posted by Spartans:
'Want to immigrate' is one thing, 'Can immigrate' is another thing.Singapore is too fast packed and packed ( and it will be worse when the population increased to 6.5m). Not ideal for a relaxing lifestyle.
Spartans, you hit the nail on the head. I am one of them who can't afford. Sigh.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Where is the best place to retire leh ?
Maybe someone can come up with list.
Then we can go set up a seniors community and assisted living.. make big bucks !!
I am thinking of China. The only thing is I worry can't adapt to their culture.
Originally posted by Cn30:Angel..those r gong gong uncles wife dead or stupid & they r only going for one thing. Let thm lose their money.
Here we r discussing abt real opportunities for real people w real intentions of survival.
what u plan may not be what happen to be, cos as you age, your behavor changed and the way of hormone change may sway you to fall as a prey.
Originally posted by Fantagf:I am thinking of China. The only thing is I worry can't adapt to their culture.
Try to learn ping pong now, at least when u migrate there, u can get some frens
True la..finding a good spouse overseas they say difficult in the papers with all the "kena cheat" stories. But u realise the paper only carry bad news when its good opportunity? And good news when its abt government policy or ratings? Media is only a PUPPET la. It is a medium to plaster our minds with fear. Hear the real stories & u'll know that the number of successful marriages is abundant. These "cheated' ones don't even make 5% of the total.
Originally posted by Fantagf:I am thinking of China. The only thing is I worry can't adapt to their culture.
Have you been to China before ?
Some friends left for China and never come back.. but they only work for foreign companies and getting expat pay.
They say there.. everything also have.. at a fraction of the cost in Sg.
You just need to be more street wise lah.
And like every country.. the subsidised/welfare system is only for the natives.
Originally posted by mistyblue:Is that strange?
Because this country has no concept of retirement at all but people really want to at least be able to enjoy that last bit and spend a bit of their hard earned money in CPF, before they die. I don't think that's too much to ask but that's not in-line with what the government wants which is to work people to their coffins
LKY mentioned that retirement means death. If possible, if can, he will make it that there is no retirement for anyone in Singapore.
He is imposing his own opinion and desire on the people. Selfish, idiotic, tyrannical, evil old despot.
Originally posted by Cn30:True la..finding a good spouse overseas they say difficult in the papers with all the "kena cheat" stories. But u realise the paper only carry bad news when its good opportunity? And good news when its abt government policy or ratings? Media is only a PUPPET la. It is a medium to plaster our minds with fear. Hear the real stories & u'll know that the number of successful marriages is abundant. These "cheated' ones don't even make 5% of the total.
You must understand leh.
A foreign bride wants to marry you is to get out of their country.
Why would they marry you if they want to stay in their own land ? They have thousands of men to choose from.
Originally posted by Cn30:True la..finding a good spouse overseas they say difficult in the papers with all the "kena cheat" stories. But u realise the paper only carry bad news when its good opportunity? And good news when its abt government policy or ratings? Media is only a PUPPET la. It is a medium to plaster our minds with fear. Hear the real stories & u'll know that the number of successful marriages is abundant. These "cheated' ones don't even make 5% of the total.
Oh, really, i see. Hmmm...
Why always is Sg men marry China bride leh ?
Why no SG women marry China men har ?
Originally posted by jojobeach:Have you been to China before ?
Some friends left for China and never come back.. but they only work for foreign companies and getting expat pay.
They say there.. everything also have.. at a fraction of the cost in Sg.
You just need to be more street wise lah.
And like every country.. the subsidised/welfare system is only for the natives.
Have friends work in China. They come back after the contract expired.
With the unreasonable constant rising costs in Singapore, those Singaporeans working overseas in the third world countries are enjoying the low cost of living there. My neighbour's son was very reluctant to go Vietnam when the company sent him there. Now that he is there for 5 years, he does not want to come back. With his pay and the low cost of living there, he employs 2 maids and married a Vietnamese lady. He told his mum that he is enjoying the low costs of living there and Singapore is just too expensive.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Have friends work in China. They come back after the contract expired.With the unreasonable constant rising costs in Singapore, those Singaporeans working overseas in the third world countries are enjoying the low cost of living there. My neighbour's son was very reluctant to go Vietnam when the company sent him there. Now that he is there for 5 years, he does not want to come back. With his pay and the low cost of living there, he employs 2 maids and married a Vietnamese lady. He told his mum that he is enjoying the low costs of living there and Singapore is just too expensive.
Will their kids be Singaporean ?
Originally posted by jojobeach:Why always is Sg men marry China bride leh ?
Why no SG women marry China men har ?
because SGmen want to marry down mah, and we sg women want to marry up, so these China brides are usually less wealthy and educated, same goes to their men, so how can we marry them. Unless he is Yao Ming, lin da or hu chingtou..or some mainland tycoons..then...yuppie!!!!
Originally posted by angel7030:
because SGmen want to marry down mah, and we sg women want to marry up, so these China brides are usually less wealthy and educated, same goes to their men, so how can we marry them. Unless he is Yao Ming, lin da or hu chingtou..or some mainland tycoons..then...yuppie!!!!
Could it be because China got no Women's Charter ?
But you need so wealthy for what ?
China everything so cheap.