Chee an Anwar?
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Chee has a long way to go before he can be Anwar. He has got to earn the trust of the people.
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Chee is a dumb ass.
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Anwar wins big victory in Malaysia by-election
Reuters - Wednesday, August 27
By Jalil Hamid
PERMATANG PAUH, Malaysia - Anwar Ibrahim scored a big victory in a key Malaysian by-election on Tuesday, a leading news portal said, enabling the country's best known opposition politician to challenge for power.
Anwar, whose campaign to win the seat vacated by his wife has been dogged by new charges of sodomy, has said he will start talks with MPs from the governing Barisan Nasional coalition to initiate a confidence vote to topple the government.
Influential news portal Malaysiakini reported that Anwar had won by 16,210 votes over his challenger from Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi's United Malays National Organisation .
Anwar's party had already claimed he was "far ahead".
Political analysts had said he needed to win by at least the 13,388 vote margin his wife achieved when she contested the seat in March's general election. The official result is due at around 9 p.m. .
Victory had been widely predicted for the man who was once deputy prime minister and seemed destined to become UMNO leader and prime minister.
Anwar's meteoric rise to power ended abruptly when he was imprisoned in the late 1990s on what he says were trumped up sodomy and corruption charges.
Anwar denies the new sodomy charges made by a 23-year old male aide and says if he wins power he will sweep away economic and social privileges for ethnic Malays in education and the civil service, policies he endorsed when in power.
PATH TO POWER NOT CLEAR
It is not yet clear whether Anwar can win a confidence vote in parliament, which he has said he will call for in September.
So far, none of the 30 MPs from the Barisan Nasional coalition that Anwar needs has indicated in public an inclination to join the 82 MPs from Anwar's alliance, which would give him a majority in the 222-member parliament.
The by-election campaign was punctuated by complaints of ill-treatment, corruption and vote rigging from both sides.
Anwar supporters called foul in parliament as the government on Tuesday submitted a bill requiring suspects to give DNA samples for a second reading in a nearly empty chamber.
They fear the law could be used to tamper with evidence so as to incriminate him at his new trial, which starts on September 10.
Around 4,000 riot police were deployed in the sleepy constituency in northern Malaysia to prevent clashes, although no violence was reported.
Economic concerns, rather than the sodomy charges against the 61-year old, topped the list of voter worries according to opinion polls.
Inflation in this Asian nation of 27 million has surged to 27-year highs and the ringgit currency has fallen to 9-month lows against the dollar, while the stock exchange is close to its year lows.
(Reporting by Jalil Hamid; Editing by David Chance and Bill Tarrant)
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Merdeka!
Now that's something that Chee has never tasted before: the people's support.
cannot say that! chee's got andrewpkyap... isn't that enough?
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
cannot say that! chee's got andrewpkyap... isn't that enough?
Politics is about popularity. It's a number game. More supporters the better.
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Originally posted by d3rF:
Politics is about popularity. It's a number game. More supporters the better
It depends, supporting a political party or candidate is NOT supporting a pop idol.The platform of the party or candidate is as important as the candidate himself. Obviously if the candidate is sound the support will come naturally.
In the case of CSJ, his antics are not really pretty to look at, and even here in sgforums, where there are many anti-p4p folks, CSJ is NOT popular. So you might want to ask yourself why this is so.
Someone had said that his antics are his tactics or strategy... if this is so, then I'd say that man is more stupid than he looks.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
It depends, supporting a political party or candidate is NOT supporting a pop idol.The platform of the party or candidate is as important as the candidate himself. Obviously if the candidate is sound the support will come naturally.
In the case of CSJ, his antics are not really pretty to look at, and even here in sgforums, where there are many anti-p4p folks, CSJ is NOT popular. So you might want to ask yourself why this is so.
Someone had said that his antics are his tactics or strategy... if this is so, then I'd say that man is more stupid than he looks.
I agree with you 100%. The context of Popularity, as in my earlier post, refers to the public adoption or the causes that CSJ is/was fighting for.
His antics are outright pointless and a nuisance to the general good. If the "someone" claimed that CSJ had a strategy behind his actions, please ask the "someone" to read the following Wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chee_Soon_Juan and enlighten us, what was he trying to achieve since 1992?
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Dr Chee Soon Juan is more like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela. Persecuted by dishonorable despots and continues to stand for right and justice.
CSJ is far from the two which you quoted!
Both Gandhi and Mandela had the support of the people they are fighting for. Mandela, the blacks of South Africa, and Gandhi, the Indians. Who does CSJ have? pathetic. To compare the him with Mandela and Gandhi is a down right insult to both of them. The two persons you quoted will be remembered as heroes in history. CSJ? Please. Even if you dun support PAP, at least not put CSJ in the same category as Mandela and Gandhi.
Secondly, there aren't no oppressed blacks or indians here, waiting for a Mandela wannabe to save them from. What an insult I seen to heroes....
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Originally posted by pacoboy:
CSJ is far from the two which you quoted!
Both Gandhi and Mandela had the support of the people they are fighting for. Mandela, the blacks of South Africa, and Gandhi, the Indians. Who does CSJ have? pathetic. To compare the him with Mandela and Gandhi is a down right insult to both of them. The two persons you quoted will be remembered as heroes in history. CSJ? Please. Even if you dun support PAP, at least not put CSJ in the same category as Mandela and Gandhi.
Secondly, there aren't no oppressed blacks or indians here, waiting for a Mandela wannabe to save them from. What an insult I seen to heroes....
Yeah. Take a read at the interview with CSJ by CNN in 2002. Really not shy!
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Originally posted by d3rF:
Yeah. Take a read at the interview with CSJ by CNN in 2002. Really not shy!
I like this part:Chee: I sell my book. I've written a couple of books and I get down to the streets, in front of shopping centers and I hawk them. And from the income that I get, I make ends meet.
Sell books can support family with 3 children?
... but at least he got books to sell... unlike some other authors.
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His books cost how much? Or that he sells so many books???
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Originally posted by pacoboy:
CSJ is far from the two which you quoted!
Both Gandhi and Mandela had the support of the people they are fighting for. Mandela, the blacks of South Africa, and Gandhi, the Indians. Who does CSJ have? pathetic. To compare the him with Mandela and Gandhi is a down right insult to both of them. The two persons you quoted will be remembered as heroes in history. CSJ? Please. Even if you dun support PAP, at least not put CSJ in the same category as Mandela and Gandhi.
Secondly, there aren't no oppressed blacks or indians here, waiting for a Mandela wannabe to save them from. What an insult I seen to heroes....
We only have APKY here insulting fellow Singaporeans.
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Originally posted by yamizi:
His books cost how much? Or that he sells so many books???
dunno..... but does not take an idiot to figure out that selling books on the streets isn't going to help him raise a family with 3 children....and yes.... how many books can he sell???
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Not sure about the incident you say, but it is possible for Chee to make errors.
So did the TV mention about PAP cock ups?
What was Lee Kuan Yew face like?
Yah, Chee may make errors. Like every other normal human beings do. But LKY tell lies to his people! Which is a No-No! -
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
dunno..... but does not take an idiot to figure out that selling books on the streets isn't going to help him raise a family with 3 children....and yes.... how many books can he sell???
I somehow have a strange feeling that he prob has got some funding somewhere. He should be smart enough to know that he should not deliberately put his family through these kind of torment. He got PhD leh... dun pray pray...
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Originally posted by Hawk Eye:
Yah, Chee may make errors. Like every other normal human beings do. But LKY tell lies to his people! Which is a No-No!... and of course, you think chee does not tell lies? benchmark chee with the other opposition leaders.....
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Originally posted by d3rF:
I somehow have a strange feeling that he prob has got some funding somewhere. He should be smart enough to know that he should not deliberately put his family through these kind of torment. He got PhD leh... dun pray pray...
of course, he's got funding somewhere....he goes around yelling "tak boleh tahan".... of course lah, no real job, claim to get by by selling books.... make the occasional trips overseas.... how to tahan?
come to think of it, the guy selling rojak probably makes more money than chee selling books.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
of course, he's got funding somewhere....he goes around yelling "tak boleh tahan".... of course lah, no real job, claim to get by by selling books.... make the occasional trips overseas.... how to tahan?
come to think of it, the guy selling rojak probably makes more money than chee selling books.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
of course, he's got funding somewhere....he goes around yelling "tak boleh tahan".... of course lah, no real job, claim to get by by selling books.... make the occasional trips overseas.... how to tahan?
come to think of it, the guy selling rojak probably makes more money than chee selling books.
Well, unless CSJ is another CS Lewis or Tolkien. Or else can't imagine him getting rich by selling books. Ha...Anyway, sometimes hawkers can be the richest people around.... maybe richer than a lot of salaried workers.
Can't imagine where he gets the money for daily expenses and all that, plus with hundres of thousands of debts to clear.
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i would just say
Dr Chee love his country
but he is not clever and clam enough
Liao Lee Love his country + $$$
but he is much more cunning and is the Elites of the Elites
both man love the country
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chee is more of an activist than politician while anwar is a consummate politician and a great politcal strategist.