ERP galore at KPE is for motorist safety!
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the smaller road get more congested, but now the highway is clear this is the purpose of the erp mah, to distribute the traffic, like from town, go serangoon/sengkang area, u can either use the highway or the little india route wat, so if the little india route gets too squeezy, that means the highway erp price should lower abit so more people will use the eway, like that will have ideal distribution right, but now what i see is that if this other route get heavy trafic very soon they will put a gantry there too, this totally defeat the purpoe mah, i quite irritated about the erp thing cos my grandma stays in chinatown, we go in or out also erp, go visit her also pay, from there go home also must pay.....
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Yes I agree. Cars cannot fly yet. So they will need to use the road to get from one point to the other.
Making people take alternative routes .. what alternative routes ? Drive in those residential roads ? Make residential roads more congested ?
Oh, with the amount of traffic lights and stoppage along residential road and the need to watch out for kids, old peoples and bangala bicycles, i may loose out in petrol and time. You guys go ahead and drive alternate road, me go use ERP better. Time to change to BM instead of Lau po car.
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Originally posted by mancha:
I don't think you very blur one dah.
ERP reduces traffic therefore less chances of accident, less chance does not mean no chance.
Speeding will still be there despite the cameras, but the speed limit of the tunnel will space out the vehicles, and also enable better e-braking for those who obey the speed limitation, which will be the majority.
Road price can be instantly updated on the gantries, so can telling motorist to stop right there in their tracks.
ERP reduces traffic therefore less chances of accident
but but but...
reduce traffic means faster driving speed mah
and faster driving speed means increased chances of accidents mah...
so final result I still blur... increase + decrease.... how?
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Yes I agree. Cars cannot fly yet. So they will need to use the road to get from one point to the other.
Making people take alternative routes .. what alternative routes ? Drive in those residential roads ? Make residential roads more congested ?
becos Raymond dun want you to block his way when he is driving home mah.
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Originally posted by eagle:
ERP reduces traffic therefore less chances of accident
but but but...
reduce traffic means faster driving speed mah
and faster driving speed means increased chances of accidents mah...
so final result I still blur... increase + decrease.... how?
They even claimed that increased ERP in Chinatown area will bring more business to the shops there. But it is now confirmed that business has reduced by almost half. -
lol damn that Raymond..
you think $$ can solve everything?!
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
ERP for messaging purpose ? What an udder waste of tax payer's money !!
Sorry.. but I really have to object.
Ok, bottom line:
ERP gantries are not safety features.
ERP gantries can be used for safety purposes.
Its not rocket science, but sometimes rocket scientist would find things hard to understand because they think too high.
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Originally posted by Ajen:
lol damn that Raymond..
you think $$ can solve everything?!
Are ministers exempted from ERP ?
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Originally posted by pearlie27:
They even claimed that increased ERP in Chinatown area will bring more business to the shops there. But it is now confirmed that business has reduced by almost half.
Like how they claim that GST will help the poor and foreign workers will create more jobs for the citizens?
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Originally posted by Ajen:
PAP!! Don't forget to put Gantries at every single road in Singapore!
i want more ERP please!!!
If can, put a gantry outside my house!
Only those road that are honoured by our PAP govt shall built a gantry ERP. Your house road small fly type, PAP see also dun bother to see. -
Originally posted by jojobeach:
Are ministers exempted from ERP ?
No, ministers can go thru ERP same as commoners. Except that the paying part is borne all by the commoners.Next question please...and please dun ask simple question
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
Like how they claim that GST will help the poor and foreign workers will create more jobs for the citizens?
The purpose of EPR in chinatown is to ask those shops around there to go bankrupt, then our govt can develope modern chinatown and remove all old ah peks, ah ma, houses, shops and massage parlours.With the development, More Gst will incur thru construction and new business. These will help to create more jobs for foreign workers and the poors cleaners.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Ok, bottom line:
ERP gantries are not safety features.
ERP gantries can be used for safety purposes.
Its not rocket science, but sometimes rocket scientist would find things hard to understand because they think too high.
Wrong, all wrong, which school you come from leh!!!!!Bottom line is
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
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I already foresee serious accidents forthcoming in this KPE with ERP indiosyncrasy...and another "this should not have happen, but it did... lets move on" scenario...
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ERP limit cars in CBD area ERP help Singaporean own more cars ERP improve traffic flow ERP for motorists safetyin future
ERP help Singaporeans make more babiesthen when ERP start to become more and more
ERP is a tourists attraction now -
ERP for president!
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His real name is TEO SURE SUCK.
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The MIW never fail to amaze me ...
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my ERP charges are as follows.
0730-0800 $0.50
0800-0830 $1.00
0800-0855 $1.50
0855-0900 $1.00
and i only pass through them on tues-thurs.
PIE west-bound near woodsville flyover.
going to town is strictly train/bus.
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ERP for the win!
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Originally posted by freedom4ever: ERP limit cars in CBD area ERP help Singaporean own more cars ERP improve traffic flow ERP for motorists safety
in future
ERP help Singaporeans make more babiesthen when ERP start to become more and more
ERP is a tourists attraction nowMust wait for statistical results
When the number of babies start to increase in tandem with ERP gantries, then they will say ERP help Singaporeans make more babies
When the number of tourists increase further as ERP gantries increase, then they will say ERP is a tourists attraction
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Originally posted by Hawk Eye:
I didn't know that having ERP can slow down vehicles leh. And even if there will be congestions, all vehicles will be travelling at a very slow speed. the chances of having an accident will be very very low.
I never know that our government is so "concerned" for our safety leh! Wah... so damn proud and grateful of them!
Ha... if safety was a concern on KPE, they should not have built it. Want us to pay and get killed? Damn PAP!
I don't think slow speed prevents accidents.
Most of the time when cars are at slow speeds they are very close , nearly bumper to bumper. Then Accidents occur when they change lanes , some car have to jam brakes and the rear bumper gets broken.
Then there will be argument and slower traffic as the lanes will not be Enough in this instance.
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Coming Soon, ERP lucky draw, first prize walk away with a brand new BMW 7 series. The more you use ERP, the more chance you stand to win.!!!! Hurry!!
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Ok I'm confused.
Can any one tell me...
If the underground tunnels are hazardous when it gets congested...
Why they have to build it UNDERGROUND ? Why not a flyover instead ?
If I am not wrong a TUNNEL.. is more expensive than a flyover....
So tunnel.. is more expensive and more dangerous...why build it in the first place ????
I'm no engineer .. but will the expert like enlighten us ?
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Originally posted by OH-FF:
I don't think slow speed prevents accidents.
Most of the time when cars are at slow speeds they are very close , nearly bumper to bumper. Then Accidents occur when they change lanes , some car have to jam brakes and the rear bumper gets broken.
Then there will be argument and slower traffic as the lanes will not be Enough in this instance.
As a driver myself...
The congestion usually is a result of some bottleneck further up the road... if they can resolve the bottleneck problem .. they will prevent the backup of traffic into the tunnel...
So.. how does ERP help again ????
Our ministers have a weird way of resolving problems.