Originally posted by Rednano:
at least 4k - 10k... in SGD...
and they borrowed money in their home country dollars... and from the conversion and the living standard cost over there... is a lot to them to repay back, since kena commission payment by the agent
not true la .... they have 0 Pesos when they come here .
One Professional agent will buy them ticket @ $380 2 way ticket , settle those philipines " undertable " ( bribery ) immigration cost , and when they reached S'pore , must show Singapore immigration some $500 in cash , so that they can get 30 days visas .
The Filipinas paid for this 3 clause . Nothing else .
Agent will also find them accomodations ..... but the girl will pay themself to house owner . Like $10 cash a day .
Then they return those $1400 maximum in Sgp to the agent's represenatative in Sgp , in weekly basis , by instalments , until they clear their credit .
How those girls earn ? depending on the pubs ..... 50/50 profit sharing on every drink they get from customers , customers will get them a drink $20 , they get $10 .
I knew this trade a long time ago ..... very high risk involving the girls , get caught working with tourist visa , they will be banned for 5 years in Sgp straight away .
Well , the profit no thick la ..... to be honest . One girl nett profit is about $800 .
But for a syndicate or in group , good money i think .
It's not a secret in Philipines , the agency fee to come to Sgp is $1400 maximum , most girls , their neighbours , friends all know .....Market price , how they pay $4000 ?
Yes , i have a Philipino business partner before .
I knew this trade from her .
She has many friends ...... who wanted to work here .
We did research ... and we finalised some details . And almost i am a agent in Sgp for her , but too bad ...... things dun worked out well in the end .
Human trafficker is a bad term to use really .... I called it employment agency .
it's hard to draw the line between simply working and expliotation.
Originally posted by webben:No disrespect Pistonf, but fuck you for your lack of intellect. Seriously!
Nobody is saying that ugly folks don't need sex, usually via prostitution, and nobody is suggesting an end to it. The issue at hand is that prostitution is available at the exploitation of foreigners. You pay $40 or whatever, which is enough for the girl to have sex with your ugly face, but *SHE DOESN'T RECEIVE THE MONEY*. THAT my friend is exploitation. The pimps grab it, the debtors grab it, they overstay because they haven't received payment, and at the end of it she's been raped by one hundred ugly-as-you bastards and takes home NOTHING.
The ugly fucks are paying reasonable money for sex with relatively hot women, yet after all the duress those said women aren't receiving their dues. THAT is exploitation.
I'm sure that your dick was half/twice/up-to-you the size of your brain and compassion that you can understand what I'm saying. But sadly I doubt it.
MY point is that exploitation keeps the cost down. Exploitation provides the Foreign workers. I unlike you do not wear my heart on my sleeves, what i do not say does not mean i agree or disagree. If asking about personal opinion i would definitely say that exploitation is wrong and so is prositution. However this is not the point being debated.
Originally posted by angel7030:In order to solve these problem, the govt had called all singapore men to stop patronising prositution, be faithful to your gf, or wife, if you are single, try look for a partner or DIY.
The basic law in economy is simple, no demand, no supply.
thank you
I agree with angel.
And Sex isn't everything there is to life afterall, this displays the shallowness of guys mentality.
They think GOD sent them to Earth on a mission to fuck girls for life.
Originally posted by parn:
I agree with angel.And Sex isn't everything there is to life afterall, this displays the shallowness of guys mentality.
They think GOD sent them to Earth on a mission to fuck girls for life.
well, it is fun
Originally posted by pistonf:MY point is that exploitation keeps the cost down. Exploitation provides the Foreign workers. I unlike you do not wear my heart on my sleeves, what i do not say does not mean i agree or disagree. If asking about personal opinion i would definitely say that exploitation is wrong and so is prositution. However this is not the point being debated.
Dear oh dear. There is plenty of money in this industry. The issue is that women are either being brought in under false pretenses, or that they're returning home without their just dues. Prostitution and the necessary relief to foreigners and Singaporeans doesn't have to be at the expense of the girls.
Actually, I can't believe your mentality. Are you suggesting that exploitation is worth it somehow? Are you not human?
Originally posted by skythewood:well, it is fun
Only animals will indulged in those activities for fun.
technically, humans are animals too, and lots of people i know do it for fun. i don't really think they do it for procreation bah
Originally posted by webben:Dear oh dear. There is plenty of money in this industry. The issue is that women are either being brought in under false pretenses, or that they're returning home without their just dues. Prostitution and the necessary relief to foreigners and Singaporeans doesn't have to be at the expense of the girls.
Actually, I can't believe your mentality. Are you suggesting that exploitation is worth it somehow? Are you not human?
As i said i have been merely voicing a reason why the government is not cracking down on them. IT does not mean i condone it. It might help all of us if you are able to divorce rationality with your emotions. Anyway how much money there is in the industry does not equate to how much money there is in the pocket of those who are patronizing them. Yees it is sad that they are being exploited and as i said it just so happens that if we were to turn it around WE would have to suffer the consequence. Would you allow your mother or sister to be raped? or would rather let some foreigner to bite the bullet? Brutal and harsh but this is the way things go..
If government cannot beat them, then join them. Allow more legal sex shop. So that it is more safer to have sex with them...haha
Originally posted by skythewood:well, it is fun
Fun .. at the expense of your life.
Later you kena disease .. then you go and tell people very fun.
Look at this.. the infamous tree man... kena HPV..
haha, the solution is not les sex...
but faithfulness to partner or safe sex.
just like skydiving is fun.
Originally posted by skythewood:haha, the solution is not les sex...
but faithfulness to partner or safe sex.
just like skydiving is fun.
But the problem with being faithful... is that you cannot guarantee your partner also faithful to you.
When your partner go F F outside.. she/he may tah bao back something for you too.
than the issue is the right partner and safe sex.
don't think advising married couple not to have sex is... prudent.
Originally posted by skythewood:technically, humans are animals too, and lots of people i know do it for fun. i don't really think they do it for procreation bah
technically speaking, humans are not animals, they are worst than animals, animals dun kill each other, animals dun throw babies or do abortion, animals live naturally and dun destroy our planet, animals dun kill/murder/backstab each other for the sake of money or sex or love problem, animals dun bother other people problem, animals dun etc etc etc...so as homo saipen, aren't we the worst of all animals, yet we call ourselve civilised, we hv sins.
O my lord, as Angel pray, forgive them as you forgive me.
that's not... technical.
Originally posted by skythewood:than the issue is the right partner and safe sex.
don't think advising married couple not to have sex is... prudent.
Then I highly recommend Angel's proposal to install ERP on their sex organs.
Originally posted by skythewood:than the issue is the right partner and safe sex.
don't think advising married couple not to have sex is... prudent.
whatever, just dun bring dirty laundry home, laundry such as HIV, STD and addiction.
Originally posted by angel7030:
technically speaking, humans are not animals, they are worst than animals, animals dun kill each other, animals dun throw babies or do abortion, animals live naturally and dun destroy our planet, animals dun kill/murder/backstab each other for the sake of money or sex or love problem, animals dun bother other people problem, animals dun etc etc etc...so as homo saipen, aren't we the worst of all animals, yet we call ourselve civilised, we hv sins.
O my lord, as Angel pray, forgive them as you forgive me.
Make sense.
The Straits Times : Monday 8th Sept 2008
The writer , 25 , is a SPH scholarship holder .She completed her postgraduate studies in Int'l Law and Government at GeorgeTown Uni in the USA
Her name : Cassaandra Chew
part of her article ......... on Human Trafficking or child trafficking .
....... " Being there , as it turned out , raised more questions than it answered .
Together with 4 other Uni level students , aged between 20-27 , we met a female brothel owner in Pattaya .
Onn turned out to be a jovial middle-aged woman who welcome us into her bar-brothel .
She enthusiatically revealed how she took care of her staff by cooking for them , advocating condom use and teaching them survival English .
Her sincerity was so infectious , i found myself thinking : i guess if i were a working girl , i would want to work for someone like her .
I caught myself . Is tis , then , the realistic of thousands of women in the world , and one which i was just beginning to understand ? Maybe prostitution was not just an uncompplicated evil in itself ?
Sure , i still think a woman should not by selling her flesh for money . But i speak from a place of priviledge . I do not have to worry about where my next meal will come from , or where i will sleep tonight .
Some children choose to go into the trade to provide for their families , although they are by legal definition " Trakficked" , they are not victims of trafficking , but of their circumstances .
What am i fighting ? Or maybe i was starting at the wrong place .
You can afterall , quite easily rescue a child's froma brothel . ending poverty ? That's another question altogether . "
Originally posted by parn:
I agree with angel.And Sex isn't everything there is to life afterall, this displays the shallowness of guys mentality.
They think GOD sent them to Earth on a mission to fuck girls for life.
hmm..interesting..God made men from earth..not sent to earth...and wat was the thing about that God told adam n eve to multiply and be fruitful??
Originally posted by angel7030:
technically speaking, humans are not animals, they are worst than animals, animals dun kill each other, animals dun throw babies or do abortion, animals live naturally and dun destroy our planet, animals dun kill/murder/backstab each other for the sake of money or sex or love problem, animals dun bother other people problem, animals dun etc etc etc...so as homo saipen, aren't we the worst of all animals, yet we call ourselve civilised, we hv sins.
O my lord, as Angel pray, forgive them as you forgive me.
thats so true..far worse then beasts..