Is singaporeans too easily impressed by Caucasian?
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Certainly, ang mo thinking are more liberal then us, but libertism also has it disadvantages, with freedom, the lack of family orientation and discipline exist in them. Therefore i would said that, to envy their liberal lifestyle, you first, hv to take a look at what are the disadvantages in a liberal society. Then maybe you can be in a better position to choose to envy them or not?
Some of the non discipline they have are
1. accessible to firearms
2. freedom of sex, (hormone, gays etc) and of course HIV
3. Wars, demostration and riots, freedom of hire and fire.
4. etc
Oh please, look up in the internet or just watch channels like fox news and you can easily see even western nations can be even more conservative than us.How about the issue and demands of asking the schools to teach creationism as a science subject?
How about making political issues based on religion (sounds familar) .
How about the recent issue of a school deciding to go witch hunting for homosexuals?
Hell...even in a rather liberal nation, the voice of conservatives is still a rather large one.
Hell, look at the southern part of the USA and you can easily say they are more conservative than us.
Alot of singaporeans, even in this thread is STILL sterotyping westerners...and automatically assume that Caucasians/westerners are bad, rude lousy or liberal.
Come on! Just because I ask singaporeans to stop sterotyping Caucasians as everything good, does that mean the only other way to view them is everything bad?
Gosh. Don't use such a simply mindset to view the world....some western nations are liberal, some are conservative. Some people is rude, other people are kind.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
I think it's a very relevant question.
If there's nothing more impressive about Asian.. then ofcors Asians will be easily impressed by Caucasians.
Asians and Ang Mohs are human beings.. I am in fact.. comparing apples with apples.
Just because you don't see Indians and Malays doing the same.. does not means they are not as "easily impressed " as compared to Chinese...
You may need to ask.. are Caucasians men less impressed with Indians and Malay girls ? And WHY ?
I know a few Caucasians who married Indian wifeys.. and there was a couple in USA who appear on the news.. Malay lady and a caucasian man.....
So ..back to the question. "in what ways do you think Asian men are better than the ang mohs ?"
asian man are less hairy, more intelligent academics wise (asian is better in maths), and generally more filial to parents(culture wise).
there is good and bad points... to me, no matter the race, the good and bad point add together about the same.
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Originally posted by ray245:
Oh please, look up in the internet or just watch channels like fox news and you can easily see even western nations can be even more conservative than us.How about the issue and demands of asking the schools to teach creationism as a science subject?
How about making political issues based on religion (sounds familar) .
How about the recent issue of a school deciding to go witch hunting for homosexuals?
Hell...even in a rather liberal nation, the voice of conservatives is still a rather large one.
Hell, look at the southern part of the USA and you can easily say they are more conservative than us.
Alot of singaporeans, even in this thread is STILL sterotyping westerners...and automatically assume that Caucasians/westerners are bad, rude lousy or liberal.
Come on! Just because I ask singaporeans to stop sterotyping Caucasians as everything good, does that mean the only other way to view them is everything bad?
Gosh. Don't use such a simply mindset to view the world....some western nations are liberal, some are conservative. Some people is rude, other people are kind.
Duh, there are always exceptions. if want to talk about specific person, just point him out, and we will discuss about him. if not, no choice but to generalise and stereotype.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
I think it's a very relevant question.
If there's nothing more impressive about Asian.. then ofcors Asians will be easily impressed by Caucasians.
Asians and Ang Mohs are human beings.. I am in fact.. comparing apples with apples.
Just because you don't see Indians and Malays doing the same.. does not means they are not as "easily impressed " as compared to Chinese...
You may need to ask.. are Caucasians men less impressed with Indians and Malay girls ? And WHY ?
I know a few Caucasians who married Indian wifeys.. and there was a couple in USA who appear on the news.. Malay lady and a caucasian man.....
So ..back to the question. "in what ways do you think Asian men are better than the ang mohs ?"
Again off-topic, off-discussion.
My point is not whether
Chinese women is/is not impressed with local men or
local men or white men are human or not human or
Malay or Indian women are desirable or not desirable to white men.
The fact that Indian and Malay women can be equally impressed by white men as Chinese women but don't display the type of characteristic that Chinese woman displayed, speaks volume of what I said, isn't it?.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
asian man are less hairy, more intelligent academics wise (asian is better in maths), and generally more filial to parents(culture wise).
there is good and bad points... to me, no matter the race, the good and bad point add together about the same.
Hmmm..filial to his parents or filial to the woman's parent ? And what has filial piety got to do with attraction of the opposite kind ?
Less hairy or more hairy on body makes not much of a impression.. as long as there's hairy on top.. yes.. very impressive..So is being less hairy a good thing or bad ?
Academic wise.. if we are so intelligent.. then why are we not reading textbooks written by Asian men.. rather.. our textbooks are ang moh authors ? I wonder.
You are not making me very impressed with your answers.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
Again off-topic, off-discussion.
My point is not whether
Chinese women is/is not impressed with local men or
local men or white men are human or not human or
Malay or Indian women are desirable or not desirable to white men.
The fact that Indian and Malay can be equally impressed by white men as Chinese women but don't display the type of characteristic that Chinese woman displayed, speaks volume of what I said, isn't it?.Urm.. just because you never see it with your own eyes.. does not means it doesn't exist.
Please.. your postings reek of racism.
Are you chinese, indian or malay ?
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4sg,
Are you implying that Asian men has NOTHING that is better than the Caucasian men ??
Very sad.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Hmmm..filial to his parents or filial to the woman's parent ? And what has filial piety got to do with attraction of the opposite kind ?
Less hairy or more hairy on body makes not much of a impression.. as long as there's hairy on top.. yes.. very impressive..So is being less hairy a good thing or bad ?
Academic wise.. if we are so intelligent.. then why are we not reading textbooks written by Asian men.. rather.. our textbooks are ang moh authors ? I wonder.
You are not making me very impressed with your answers.
haha, guess these things don't matter to you, so you are unimpressed, fair enough. but there are people who think these stuff matters, so please don't think unkindly of them. -
Originally posted by skythewood:
haha, guess these things don't matter to you, so you are unimpressed, fair enough. but there are people who think these stuff matters, so please don't think unkindly of them.FYI.. you being a fillial son can only impress your own parents.
But there's a very fine line between being filial and a mommy's boy.
There's nothing wrong being filial.. but please don't think you can use this virtue to impress a girl.
The moment you fall under the mommy's boy category.. you can kiss your love bye bye.
OK ? good.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
haha, guess these things don't matter to you, so you are unimpressed, fair enough. but there are people who think these stuff matters, so please don't think unkindly of them.What is unimpressive is the way such things matter to you on very mistaken bases.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
FYI.. you being a fillial son can only impress your own parents.
But there's a very fine line between being filial and a mommy's boy.
There's nothing wrong being filial.. but please don't think you can use this virtue to impress a girl.
The moment you fall under the mommy's boy category.. you can kiss your love bye bye.
OK ? good.
yup, that is your opinion.
my opinion ==> being filial is the basis of the person character. maybe he is a mommy boy, maybe he is just being filial. maybe that shows his that he respect other people as a whole, maybe he is just afraid of his parents wraith.
if you don't even respect your parents, than how much will you respect your gf or wife? that may traslate to arrogance, that may be a turn on to you, maybe not.
people consider different things.
But if your point is just outward appearance, than very simple ==> good looks, money, career and enough brains to have a conversation with.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
What is unimpressive is the way such things matter to you on very mistaken bases.
ok, so what race of people impresses you?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
yup, that is your opinion.
my opinion ==> being filial is the basis of the person character. maybe he is a mommy boy, maybe he is just being filial. maybe that shows his that he respect other people as a whole, maybe he is just afraid of his parents wraith.
if you don't even respect your parents, than how much will you respect your gf or wife? that may traslate to arrogance, that may be a turn on to you, maybe not.
people consider different things.
But if your point is just outward appearance, than very simple ==> good looks, money, career and enough brains to have a conversation with.
Perhaps you should have a chat with Mistyblue.
Her hubby is a very filial son, but makes a lousy husband.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Urm.. just because you never see it with your own eyes.. does not means it doesn't exist.
Please.. your postings reek of racism.
Are you chinese, indian or malay ?
This is a discussion and as in any type of discussion, we can we bring up topic that can be sensitive to others. Sorry if I offended you.
You are right 'never see, doesn't mean never happen'. But we are talking in statistical term not absolute term here.
I am not impressed with LHL until ND rally where he said Sg (Chinese) declining birth rate has something to do with Chinese culture and values system.
Great people that walked on this earth always had the painful ability to look at their own backyard or mirror and see the defect in themselves that others so clearly see.
AIl race or culture has defects. When I point out a detect, am I a racist? -
Originally posted by jojobeach:
Perhaps you should have a chat with Mistyblue.
Her hubby is a very filial son, but makes a lousy husband.
so very filial = lousy husband?
or lousy person = lousy husband?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
ok, so what race of people impresses you?
I'm above judging people according to their race.
Respect for parents does not necessarily translate to respect for partners. And white people are neither less filial, nor do they love their parents less.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
This is a discussion and as in any type of discussion, we can we bring up topic that can be sensitive to others. Sorry if I offended you.
You are right 'never see, doesn't mean never happen'. But we are talking in statistical term not absolute term here.
I am not impressed with LHL until ND rally where he said Sg (Chinese) declining birth rate has something to do with Chinese culture and values system.
Great people that walked on this earth always had the painful ability to look at their own backyard or mirror and see the defect in themselves that others so clearly see.
AIl race or culture has defects. When I point out a detect, am I a racist?Are you so sure LHL is not a racist himself ?
Have you ever wondered why all of a sudden there's a big influx of China nationals into Singapore ?
Yes I agree with that great people philosophy...that is why I ask "in what ways do you think Asian men are better than the ang mohs ?"
If you cannot even see strengths in your own Asian self.. then how can you criticise others for being "easily impressed" by another race?
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
I'm above judging people according to their race.
Respect for parents does not necessarily translate to respect for partners. And white people are neither less filial, nor do they love their parents less.
good point.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
so very filial = lousy husband?
or lousy person = lousy husband?
edit : refer to Kuali's reply.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
edit : refer to Kuali's reply.
i'm guessing you are refering to this
I'm above judging people according to their race.
Respect for parents does not necessarily translate to respect for partners. And white people are neither less filial, nor do they love their parents less.
so being filial has no relations to being a lousy husband.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Are you so sure LHL is not a racist himself ?
Have you ever wondered why all of a sudden there's a big influx of China nationals into Singapore ?
Yes I agree with that great people philosophy...that is why I ask "in what ways do you think Asian men are better than the ang mohs ?"
If you cannot even see strengths in your own Asian self.. then how can you criticise others for being "easily impressed" by another race?
My point is not LHL is a racist or not or
I has strength or no strength in my Asian self or
China Chinese versus Sg Chinese.
I don't care if LHL is a racist or not.
There are also influx of not just China Chinese but Burmese, Pinoy, Indo, Viet etc.
Oh, I certainly see strength in my own 'Asian' self to be in comfortable position to speak of defect in my 'Asian' backyard.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
i'm guessing you are refering to this
so being filial has no relations to being a lousy husband.
BUT being overly-filial to the point where you compromise your decision-making and the you and your partner's well-being does.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
My point is not LHL is a racist or not or
I has strength or no strength in my Asian self or
China Chinese versus Sg Chinese.
I don't care if LHL is a racist or not.
There are also influx of not just China Chinese but Burmese, Pinoy, Indo, Viet etc.
Oh, I certainly see strength in my own 'Asian' self to be in comfortable position to speak of defect in my 'Asian' backyard.Then kindly list those strengths that you see, just to show up those Butterflies for their insecurities.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
BUT being overly-filial to the point where you compromise your decision-making and the you and your partner's well-being does.
if someone is overly filial, and the parents is understanding, than there will be no conflict.
if the parents is too demanding, i doubt the children will be overly filial.
if a person unreasonably compromise decision-making, than he is just being stupid for failing to get the priority of things right.
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Wise words from the great leader Lee Kuan Yew:
"Three women were brought to the Singapore General Hospital, each in the same condition and needing a blood transfusion. The first, a Southeast Asian was given the transfusion but died a few hours later. The second, a South Asian was also given a transfusion but died a few days later. The third, an East Asian, was given a transfusion and survived. That is the X factor in development." - 27 December 1967
"The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more ... the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow." - Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997
- "I started off believing all men were equal. I now know that's the most unlikely thing ever to have been, because millions of years have passed over evolution, people have scattered across the face of this earth, been isolated from each other, developed independently, had different intermixtures between races, peoples, climates, soils... I didn't start off with that knowledge. But by observation, reading, watching, arguing, asking, that is the conclusion I've come to." - Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997
- "If, for instance, you put in a Malay officer who's very religious and who has family ties in Malaysia in charge of a machine gun unit, that's a very tricky business. We've got to know his background... I'm saying these things because they are real, and if I don't think that, and I think even if today the Prime Minister doesn't think carefully about this, we could have a tragedy." - SM Lee Kuan Yew, Straits Times, September 19, 1999 on Malays in the Singapore Armed Forces