Originally posted by bynari:
Now Singapore overtakes Switzerland, USA, Ireland, Iceland, Sweden, Austria & Denmark in terms of GDP per capita?
I think PAP achieved the Swiss standard of living that they promised. *sniggers*
on paper yes.can read CIA,IMF,WB,ADB etc reports??
On democracy,according to Chee Soon Juan and his gang.NO!
Do u want democracy and freedom(political,press etc),like our SEA neighbours,
But your loved one have to work overseas to support family?
Or SG style life???''No democracy.But freedom of migration(English
and your passport is a sure ticket to escape from this red dot.
SEA frens take a long Q to migrate!!
Originally posted by will4:
Hi Fishbuff,I think u could have read about Air Force MO escaped to Melbourne
Australia and subsequently found dead. If an Air Force officer want to escape to
other countries, let alone for other ranks.
Singapore is becoming a sad country esp many PR want to used this as a stepping
stone to other countries.
so sad,he is a high society guy,appearing on high society magazines.
I am sure he does not short of pretty girls frens,becos of his MO status
,family background and his face.
Dunt blame all on this country.
Can we just leave his family alone....This is so sad already.
u guys jus continue put salt on the wound.
Let him RIP.....Please.
Originally posted by fishbuff1:
ha.. u can continue on your self-deception, lionnoisy. there are sooo many singaporean professionals living in australia and most are dumping their citizenships like hot brick. Sg is bleeding from the 7 orifices on local talents, leaving saf regular like Lionnoisy with his half-baked saf brain and zero talent behind in the seas of foreign workers and prostitutes roaming the hdb zone to hunt for gullible singaporeans. No thanks!there are 4 groups of sg men;
- those that dare to make the changes for the better of themselves and people around them..
- those that sit back and watch the changes. either powerless, directionless, clueless or bochap.
- those that tolerate the changes. willing or unwilling.
- those that prevent others from making the changes thru' lies and deceits.
we all know which categories u fall into, LN. i guess life in the SAF/SIB is too good for you.
i dunt know how many sg people migrating.
but i do know many oz born australian also leaving oz....
While 4 people migrate to oz,two oz are leaving.
Out of 2 oz leaving,one was born in oz.
can u interpret this data?
5.1 PERMANENT ARRIVALS AND PERMANENT DEPARTURES, Australia
two in ,,one out.
5.3 PERMANENT DEPARTURES, Australia - Country of birth
half of leaving oz for good were born in oz!!tell me why so many
oz born Australias are leaving if oz is really so good?
If oz is so good and there are many oz leaving,wat is the big deal
that many SG people are leaving when u say SG is not so good....?
source of above
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Latestproducts/3412.0Feature%20Article22006-07?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=3412.0&issue=2006-07&num=&view=
If the police of a 3 rd world country leak confidential info.
we wont suprised.But if is oz.We will,
not to mention it is Victoria,the richest state in oz!
The consquence.A couple were murdered!!
So in Oz,who dares to be a police informer?
Milanda Rout | 12:30pm VICTORIA police have charged another man over the double murder of police informer Terence Hodson and his wife Christine in 2004.
further reading
The Melbourne Gangland Killings were the killings of 34 criminal figures or partners in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, in a series of retributional murders involving various underworld groups between January 16, 1998 and February 7, 2006. The deaths caused a sustained power vacuum within Melbourne's criminal community, as various factions fought for control and influence. The majority of the murders are still unsolved, although police from the Purana Taskforce believe that Carl Williams was responsible for ten of them. The period culminated in the arrest of Carl Williams, who pleaded guilty to three counts of murder on February 28, 2007. As part of a deal which will see Williams out of prison after he turns 70, police will not charge him with the other seven murders they believe he committed.[1]
Since the confession of Williams, the ultimate source of the violence has become public knowledge. While meeting with Jason Moran and his half brother Mark MoranOctober 13, 1999 at a suburban park in Gladstone Park, Jason Moran shot Carl Williams in the stomach over a dispute about money earned in the amphetamine trade. Through the period after his run-in with the Moran family, Williams commenced a war with the aim of killing all of the Moran clan.[2] on
The murder of former lawyer Mario Condello on February 6th, 2006, caused speculation of a possible resurgence in the killings, although this was denied by police.[3]''.............................

murdered Terence Hodson and his wife Christine
fr one of the link above
if u want to know Australia better,u have to read all info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_gangland_killings
a long list of killing
Originally posted by will4:
Hi Fishbuff,I think u could have read about Air Force MO escaped to Melbourne
Australia and subsequently found dead. If an Air Force officer want to escape to
other countries, let alone for other ranks.
Singapore is becoming a sad country esp many PR want to used this as a stepping
stone to other countries.
that is the main problem with the sg's education; education to fill the minds of the population with useless facts and totally devoid of life skills. sure, an average kid in sg will spew out life sciences and solve complex maths, but 99% are dumbfounded when u pop them questions that deal with real life situation. people like that are easy to control and smoked. look at the churches in sg, all the pastors are using spiritual intimdation to scare the shits of the believers into total submission.
this reminds me of this experiment where the researchers hold 5 monkeys in a cage and dangle a banana at a corner. so whenever a monkey start to grab the banana, the researchers sprayed water at the other monkeys. so when they introduce a new monkey that is totally oblivious to the whole situation and want to grab the banana, the whole lot will wrestle it down to prevent him from achieving its goal.
so, there are alot of spin doctors here that want to prevent others from achieving their goal/banana. and Lionnoisy is one of them.
Originally posted by fishbuff1:that is the main problem with the sg's education; education to fill the minds of the population with useless facts and totally devoid of life skills. sure, an average kid in sg will spew out life sciences and solve complex maths, but 99% are dumbfounded when u pop them questions that deal with real life situation. people like that are easy to control and smoked. look at the churches in sg, all the pastors are using spiritual intimdation to scare the shits of the believers into total submission.
this reminds me of this experiment where the researchers hold 5 monkeys in a cage and dangle a banana at a corner. so whenever a monkey start to grab the banana, the researchers sprayed water at the other monkeys. so when they introduce a new monkey that is totally oblivious to the whole situation and want to grab the banana, the whole lot will wrestle it down to prevent him from achieving its goal.
so, there are alot of spin doctors here that want to prevent others from achieving their goal/banana. and Lionnoisy is one of them.
well say.In SG,u may be sprayed with water.
But in oz,u are sprayed with bullets while u walking in the street or
sitting in living hall while watching TV.Why cant we read in Strait Times
for
11:08am | NSW police could be given tougher powers to deal with gangs after a spate of shootings in Sydney.
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Internatioal media bias
If one ATM is blasted in Singapore,i am sure it will be widely reported
in intl medias.But they dunt bother to report more than 30 cases
of ATM blast in Australia(lion note---this is the figure as of
Dec 2008.Many ATM have been blasted since DEc!!)!! Why ? Why? Why?
Oz police has offered A$150,000 for info of ATM gang.
reda below for proof.
so u can see how serious of this ATM crime.
BTW,can u tell me if ATM blast for few dozens time in oz shall
be a news?i think it is.But no international medias report this kind
of news.

EXPLOSION: The scene of the Latrobe ATM explosion on February 12.
BY DAVID STOCKMAN Police believe garbage collectors halted an attempt by bandits to blast money out of a Wanniassa ATM. The attack is the fifth in the .
oh.the reward fot info is 150,000
''It is the second such incident this week after an ATM was blown up at Warrawong on the NSW South Coast on Monday, and the latest in a string of similar attacks.
The spate of explosions, across NSW and Queensland, has prompted the formation of a special police taskforce and rewards of up to $150,000 for information leading to a conviction.''
oh dear.In Dec the cases alrady reached more than 30!!
u can search ATM blast fr yahoo and google news or web.
Oh Oz,Why do u fall into this state?
''The strikeforce is investigating a spate of ATM explosions, mostly across Sydney and on the New South Wales central coast, over the past two months.
Anyone with information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
A $150,000 reward is being offered to anyone with information that could lead to a conviction over the blasts.''
Wee, the richest state in OZ got so much problem, the other states must be more worst...but i thot OZies are good and gracious peoples, seem like the prisoner's genes still live in their blood, me still prefer the Aborigines peoples, lives in blue mountain and careless less about all these shit...
Roar!!!!!>....the lion King, Simba
Originally posted by lionnoisy:well say.In SG,u may be sprayed with water.
But in oz,u are sprayed with bullets while u walking in the street or
sitting in living hall while watching TV.Why cant we read in Strait Times
for
Two hurt in series of drive-by shootings
11:08am | NSW police could be given tougher powers to deal with gangs after a spate of shootings in Sydney.
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Internatioal media bias
If one ATM is blasted in Singapore,i am sure it will be widely reported
in intl medias.But they dunt bother to report more than 30 cases
of ATM blast in Australia(lion note---this is the figure as of
Dec 2008.Many ATM have been blasted since DEc!!)!! Why ? Why? Why?
Oz police has offered A$150,000 for info of ATM gang.
reda below for proof.
so u can see how serious of this ATM crime.
BTW,can u tell me if ATM blast for few dozens time in oz shall
be a news?i think it is.But no international medias report this kind
of news.
EXPLOSION: The scene of the Latrobe ATM explosion on February 12.
BREAKING NEWS: Police are again hunting ATM bandits who this time struck at Westbury in the early hours of this morning. It's the second ATM to be blown up inThe Advocate - Wed, 18 Mar 09:08:27 2009- @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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ATM blast yields no cash
The Australian - 2009年3月17日Article from: Australian AP WOULD-BE thieves who used an explosive device to break open an automatic teller machine in Tasmania have fled the scene empty ...Garbos 'disturb' attempt to blow up ATM
The Canberra Times - 2009年3月12日BY DAVID STOCKMAN Police believe garbage collectors halted an attempt by bandits to blast money out of a Wanniassa ATM. The attack is the fifth in the .
ah, the more that i read your post (which by far is time that i cannot buy back), i more or less can guess another profile of you; that you could be a PRC, and failed to apply for a OZ PR, u are here rambling all the way just about everything things that are -ve about Oz.
ahhhhh... why? is your qualification really that bad that the Oz immigration didnt want to accept your application? so u are stuck in SG, and forced on yourself to be deluded that everything in Oz is bad for you?
i had worked with PRCs before and their emails are just horrid to read, which by far, bear much similarity to your postings.
so you are a PRC?
Originally posted by fishbuff1:
ah, the more that i read your post (which by far is time that i cannot buy back), i more or less can guess another profile of you; that you could be a PRC, and failed to apply for a OZ PR, u are here rambling all the way just about everything things that are -ve about Oz.ahhhhh... why? is your qualification really that bad that the Oz immigration didnt want to accept your application? so u are stuck in SG, and forced on yourself to be deluded that everything in Oz is bad for you?
i had worked with PRCs before and their emails are just horrid to read, which by far, bear much similarity to your postings.
so you are a PRC?
The English and idenity issue
why do u need to know my particulars?
Like Chinese say,Look at the points raised by the person,
but not the person.
Do u think if my English is better and i am Singaporean or I come
from an ang moh countries then make me more credible or authoriative?
While many forumers here promote democracy and freedom,
they just discriminate people who write poor English,like me,
They dunt like people critize any aspects of western countries,from crimes,
health ,education,to Viking ATTC!!
Gang killed in Sydney domestic airport and 7 houses sprayed with bullets
read carefully.7 houses were fired on!
The gang killed flied from Melbourne to reinforce gang in Sydney but he was
intercepted in airport!!
BIKIE gangs face a crackdown after a man was bludgeoned to death in a fight at Sydney Airport.
''....Underworld tensions have reached a new high in Sydney following the murder last week of crime figure Abdul Darwiche, and a string of bikie-related drive-by shootings.
Two other gangs, the Bandidos and Notorious, are also involved in an ongoing war.
Overnight a woman and her son escaped injury after their home in Bossley Park was showered with gunfire.
Yesterday
morning an 18-year-old man was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound
to his leg and a 17-year-old male was treated for lacerations after
seven houses in three streets were sprayed with gunfire.''
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I still cant understand why many SG parents want but they do not
migrate and many did migrate to oz,for the sake of family.
Is it a good place for kids when bullets flying over your heads
and gang fight in airport,though a domestic one?
u can know more by searching
drive by shooting in sydney or kikie gang
in yahoo.com.au under web or news .
a long list of news.
from today first link in news
''A source with knowledge of Sydney's bikie community told The Daily Telegraph the man's death had been a mistake.
"He was the brother of one ( Hell's Angel),'' the source said. "It was so wrong.
"It was not meant to happen like that.''
Time to get tough on bikie gangs
New South Wales Premier Nathan Rees will today meet police commissioner Andrew Scipione for an urgent briefing on the escalating violence.
He promised to fast-track any legislation needed to deal with the problem including laws similar to SA where membership of a bikie gang is illegal.
Mr Rees said he was sickened by the violence at the airport especially because it was in such a public place.
"Well, it's extraordinary. I won't go into the detail because, obviously, people are still to be brought before a court but many people who witnessed the event would have been traumatised and I want to make sure the NSW Police Force has everything they need to fight this sort of crime," he told ABC radio.
Police have been met with a wall of silence in their investigations but believe the incident is liked to rival bikie gangs the Comancheros and the Hell's Angels.
The Comancheros were suspected of carrying out the firebombing of the Hell's Angels clubhouse at Petersham last month, followed days later by the kneecapping of a Comancheros member.
Underworld tensions have reached a new high in Sydney following the murder last week of crime figure Abdul Darwiche, and a string of bikie-related drive-by shootings.''
The reality check!!
Childhood lost: under-age prostitutes strain a system in crisis,in Melbourne
http://www.watoday.com.au/national/childhood-lost-underage-prostitutes-strain-a-system-in-crisis-20090301-8l6x.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Kilda,_Victoria
SIX homes in Sydney's west were hit by bullets just 12 hours before a 29-year-old bikie was bludgeoned to death at Sydney Airport's domestic terminal.
In a dramatic escalation of a turf war between rival bikie gangs, one man was shot, another bashed, and another murdered in the airport attack......''
well 6 to 7 houses were fired on....
how many bullets were fired?Evidence sign used up to Z!!
Three bulllets hole here..

bikie gangs in oz...

http://www.smh.com.au/national/behind-sydneys-bikie-bloodshed-two-gangs-out-of-control-20090323-96hr.html
bikie war more than 20 years ago saw 6 killed in one day!!

''Sydney Airport murder revives Bloody Sunday ... The Miilperra Massacre in 1984 between the Comancheros and Bandidos that killed six bikie''
McDougall: Warring gangs bring back Bloody Sunday massacre
Editorial: Rid society of these thugs
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25226859-5001021,00.html
''The carnage was followed by the longest joint criminal trial in NSW history. Armed members of the tactical response group were stationed in the courtroom and police involved needed armed guards to get them home safely.
On June 12, 1987, nearly three years later, a jury delivered 63 murder convictions, 147 of manslaughter and 31 of affray. Nine bikies, including Jock Ross, received life sentences.''
police needed armed escort to go home?wat country is iit?
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25224831-5001031,00.html
Originally posted by lionnoisy:The English and idenity issue
why do u need to know my particulars?
Like Chinese say,Look at the points raised by the person,
but not the person.
Do u think if my English is better and i am Singaporean or I come
from an ang moh countries then make me more credible or authoriative?
While many forumers here promote democracy and freedom,
they just discriminate people who write poor English,like me,
They dunt like people critize any aspects of western countries,from crimes,
health ,education,to Viking ATTC!!
ah, but your online person intrigues me.
for a regular contributor to this forum even i do consider that this forum is nothing worth more to read than a Strait Times newspaper, your persistent and constant contributions on any news that protrayed Oz in a bad light is something that left me wondering about your motivation and perhaps, hidden anguish that is eating you up from within.
Get proper and competent advices. take to a counsellor if possible (see number below). i know it is hard especially for a middle age man like you to work in sg and support your family, and perhaps self-dillusion is an avenue for you to pacify yourself, channelling your frustration into this forum from your failed emigration attempt, which you did mention that u HAD obtained an Oz immigration form before.
Hotline Counselling 1800-3535-800.
Crime rate is reported crime dude.