NUS officials stop Democrats from distributing flyers
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I mean mainstream media, not internet media.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
I mean mainstream media, not internet media.
give me the example, without source than. most stuff that is mainstream will be covered by internet, but maybe they do miss out something.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
did he lie? last i check, political videos are allowed now.
To what extent is he basing on when he talked about easing? If it is general, then I think really it is double standard. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
To what extent is he basing on when he talked about easing? If it is general, then I think really it is double standard.not really understand the general part.
but for the extent part, it will be gradual, as with all policies. allow political podcast, political video, protest at speaker corner.... all gradual. it is not totally free yet, but it is a step forward, so he didn't lie.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
not really understand the general part.
but for the extent part, it will be gradual, as with all policies. allow political podcast, political video, protest at speaker corner.... all gradual. it is not totally free yet, but it is a step forward, so he didn't lie.
All that you stated, are these including oppositions or just for PAP?
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political video and stuff is not limited to opposition or PAP.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_269464.html
it is for everybody.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
political video and stuff is not limited to opposition or PAP.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_269464.html
it is for everybody.
Will just check it out when this materialises.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Will just check it out when this materialises.
normally, people are innocent until proven guilty.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
normally, people are innocent until proven guilty.
I don't understand, I did not say anything about anyone guilty, any court case or whatsoever. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
I don't understand, I did not say anything about anyone guilty, any court case or whatsoever.ok
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lawls.. whats the point of a perspective if it originates from hate.. lawls.. wonder ponder~
and gotta agree with skythewood.. to labelled 66.6% as stupid and no ability to judge truth is a bit extreme.. its as good as the NUS guy who said to protect the students' interests..
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Originally posted by dinky1409:
lawls.. whats the point of a perspective if it originates from hate.. lawls.. wonder ponder~
and gotta agree with skythewood.. to labelled 66.6% as stupid and no ability to judge truth is a bit extreme.. its as good as the NUS guy who said to protect the students' interests..
i did not mention they are stupid. i'm saying they are not smart enough to see through the propaganda. if they can see through the propaganda and hear from both sides, i'm sure many are able to judge for themselves.
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I think there's still plenty of room in the underground dungeon to lock up these rebels together with the political prisoners.
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Originally posted by freedom4ever:
i did not mention they are stupid. i'm saying they are not smart enough to see through the propaganda. if they can see through the propaganda and hear from both sides, i'm sure many are able to judge for themselves.
hmm.. personally, i would think that the choice of words doesn matter but its less insulting i guess but its still the same idea.. lawls~Nevertheless, I understand from your statement that, even if everyone hear from both sides and end up choosing PAP, they would still be less smart bcos they judge wrongly? Or you assume that all those who voted for PAP does not hear from both sides but only from the PAP propaganda? A bit too extreme an assumption, no?
Im neutral. No worries.. lawls~
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lmao wtf how to unbold it.. lawls
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Originally posted by dinky1409:
hmm.. personally, i would think that the choice of words doesn matter but its less insulting i guess but its still the same idea.. lawls~Nevertheless, I understand from your statement that, even if everyone hear from both sides and end up choosing PAP, they would still be less smart bcos they judge wrongly? Or you assume that all those who voted for PAP does not hear from both sides but only from the PAP propaganda? A bit too extreme an assumption, no?
Im neutral. No worries.. lawls~
I think it's safe enough to assume that most of the uncles and aunties currently get most of their information from SPH
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Education should never mix with politics.
Be it PAP or Opposition.
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Originally posted by Go:
Education should never mix with politics.
Be it PAP or Opposition.
Politics mixes with every damn thing out there... You can never take politics out...
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Originally posted by gRaZeRX:
Is it wise to involve university students in politics? Personally, politics for students is just a distraction when they should be studying. If we look at protests overseas, a lot involve students because
- They are poor (in relative terms) and hence make cheaper "pawns" for manipulation
- They are easier to rally, since there are so many students in the universities and many student leaders to rally the students
Since they always have the meet-the-MM/SM/PM sessions annually in NUS, maybe the SDP can request for a meet-the-CSJ session and call it quits
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Any other form of propaganda should be discouraged IMO.studying for what? to pass exams only?
one of the main purpose of education is to enpower us to learn as many things as possible, including politics. we should learn about politics cos it affects our life, unless we want to be blindly led by others.
btw, our pioneer political activists were not poor.
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Originally posted by lotus999:
studying for what? to pass exams only?
one of the main purpose of education is to enpower us to learn as many things as possible, including politics. we should learn about politics cos it affects our life, unless we want to be blindly led by others.
btw, our pioneer political activists were not poor.
i agree. students should start to get involved with politics as soon as they truly understand the term "government". those students who wish to get physically involved with politics should join "youth" organisation like PAP youth or others political groups "youth" to really promote "democracy" in Singapore.i think it's time for transparency and real effort. PAP has won elections after elections without much effort for the past 4 decades. i am not saying they did a bad or average job. they did very well. their goal was to make Singapore independent and advanced, technologically, medically and financially. we have succeeded in those aspects but we also have forgotten many.
for example; we have lost character and integrity. a wise man once told me, "Character is more important and Competence". take Mr. Durai for example. no one ever questioned his ability in managing NKF. he made it very successful, he made it profitable... a charity organisation that could pay millions... in terms of competence, he is excellent. but he lacks character and integrity thus his fall from grace.
we also hear from neighbours, friends that many young talented men and women have forgotten filial piety. these people are from the higher society, earning tens of thousands of dollars monthly but yet leave their old folks in nursing homes and never visited. my wife worked in Dover Hospice before and i can assure you, many patients were left alone waiting for death. sons and daughters, family and friends do not visit frequently. once a month? that is a blessing. of course there are cases where the children are filial and caring but seriously, how many?
we are a society that has thrived yet let-down by our own competence. we must start to build a society where character and integrity takes place in our daily lives... this is where politics must come in. it is time for students to get involved... know the in's and out's of politics and challenge themselves if they want to make that change in society and in the lives of Singaporeans. join the political party that you feel can and will make that change for the better.
we need the political transparency to deal with internal problems that seriously in need to rectify. i have to say that younger generations are forced to pay too much attention to academic excellence that parents neglected the need to teach manners, honesty, consideration to others' feelings and selflessness. we are not a gracious society. you can say it's just a minor issue but when we are not teaching loyalty and understanding, we are sowing the seed for citizens who will betray the country for money and also the need to understand social cohesion among races. 2 young men were arrested for spreading racist remarks on the internet... are we going to let this incident incite into another full blown riot? education in school is not enough, parents have to chip in.
start political education early. teach the right virtues, the need to care for the nation, fight for the country and sacrifice for our beliefs that is for the best of Singapore.
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we also hear from neighbours, friends that many young talented men and women have forgotten filial piety. these people are from the higher society, earning tens of thousands of dollars monthly but yet leave their old folks in nursing homes and never visited. my wife worked in Dover Hospice before and i can assure you, many patients were left alone waiting for death. sons and daughters, family and friends do not visit frequently. once a month? that is a blessing. of course there are cases where the children are filial and caring but seriously, how many?
...Another aspect of this nineteenth century propaganda system is the increasing emphasis upon material desires. If you had the material things you wanted --a nice house in the suburbs, a swimming pool, a couple of big cars, a place in the country, a motor boat, a trailer to take it back and forth--you should be happy and satisfied. Now it's endless--a pocket computer, citizens' band radio, whatever you want...
...The second thing that occurs as this goes on is increasing remoteness of desires from needs. I've mentioned this. The next thing is an increasing confusion between means and ends. The ends are the human needs, but if I asked people what these needs are, they can hardly tell me. Instead they want the means they have been brainwashed to accept, that they think will satisfy their needs.
But it's perfectly obvious that the methods that we have been using are not working. Never was any society in human history as rich and as powerful as Western Civilization and the United States, and it is not a happy society. Just this week, I looked at a book called "The Joyless Economy", by an economist, Tibor Scitovsky, who diagrammed some of these things...
...The other part of this will require you to put these things together to some extent. Persons, personalities if you wish, can be made only in communities. A community is made up of intimate relationships among diverse types of individuals--a kinship group, a local group, a neighbourhood, a village, a large family. Without communities, no infant will be sufficiently socialized. He may grow up to be forty years old, he may have made an extremely good living, he may have engendered half a dozen children, but he is still an infant unless he has been properly socialized and that occurs in the first four or five years of life.
In our society today, we have attempted to throw the whole burden of socializing out population upon the school system, to which the individual arrives only at the age of four or five. A few years ago they had big programs to take children to school for a few hours at age two and three and four, but that will not socialize them.
The first two years are important. The way a child is treated in the first two days is of vital importance. He has to be loved, above all he has to be talked to. A state of individuals, such as we have now reached in Western Civilization, will not create persons, and the atomized individuals who make it up will be motivated by desires which do not necessarily reflect needs. Instead of needing other people they need a shot of heroin; instead of some kind of religious conviction, they have to be with the winning team...
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