proud to be born a Singaporean
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still safer than our neighbouring countries.
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Originally posted by novelltie:
still safer than our neighbouring countries.
agree. and this is something positive that the ruling party is doing well. In my neighbourhood, crime rate shot up. For several months, every month there is one or two crimes. -
what kind of crimes? and which part of singapore do you live in?
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Originally posted by novelltie:
what kind of crimes? and which part of singapore do you live in?
Robbery in NE. in the recent years, we have seen many new faces, and suspicious people around.
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i stay in Hougang... north east too
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Erm, the fact that SG has no natural disasters, eg earthquakes, tsunamis and whatnots is coz of our geographical location and nothing to do with the govt.. Many places ard the world also have this advantage.
Our crime rate is considered low, also because sg is so small, no where to run. Also coz of our v.strict laws, and brainwashing by the govt. But if your car kena scratched on purpose even right in front of your eyes, or if you've gotten cheated of $$ (few hundreds to a k or 2), then you will know how useless sg law is.
SPF quite useless, all they tell you is they'll take statement, then u just suck thumb. In fact, this suck thumb policy seems to apply everywhere and s'poreans have become very used to this that they've forgotten their rights. Or they don't have any in the first place...
In sg is u can only do something if they allow you to. In Oz, u can do anything you want unless they say you can't. see the difference?
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Originally posted by turby:
Erm, the fact that SG has no natural disasters, eg earthquakes, tsunamis and whatnots is coz of our geographical location and nothing to do with the govt.. Many places ard the world also have this advantage.
Our crime rate is considered low, also because sg is so small, no where to run. Also coz of our v.strict laws, and brainwashing by the govt. But if your car kena scratched on purpose even right in front of your eyes, or if you've gotten cheated of $$ (few hundreds to a k or 2), then you will know how useless sg law is.
SPF quite useless, all they tell you is they'll take statement, then u just suck thumb. In fact, this suck thumb policy seems to apply everywhere and s'poreans have become very used to this that they've forgotten their rights. Or they don't have any in the first place...
In sg is u can only do something if they allow you to. In Oz, u can do anything you want unless they say you can't. see the difference?
good morning, guess we have to go through this debate here again...
all i did was listed out the advantage of us Chinese, Indians, Malays, Others living here in Singapore. i did not say it's due to our government entirely. i never implied that we have no natural disaster because of PAP.
first issue; crime rate. Johor Bahru itself isn't 20 times bigger than Singapore but look at the crime rate. it's reputation precedes itself.
second; you mentioned SPF... guess you must have a bad experience with them but still, we are looking at a very safe country compared to our neighbouring countries.
third; i have not used Australia as a main competitor but seriously, though some areas are less prone to racism, we know we will be treated a little different there by the whites. i've been to Brisbane as a tourist and i can assure you, you can really feel the difference in treatment.
fourth; income taxation at 42% and GST at 10%? woah! if you earn less than $30,000 in Singapore, no tax. period.
fifth; "In sg is u can only do something if they allow you to. In Oz, u can do anything you want unless they say you can't." - i see no difference. if they don't allow you to steal in Singapore, are you saying that you can do that in OZ?
sixth; you mentioned that Singaporeans have no rights? then fight for it! if you feel that you have been wronged by the minions of the government, seek redress instead of letting them walk over you. but get your facts right first and if you feel you've been short-changed, go f*ck somebody in that chain of command. you can write to newspapers, forums, Stomp, see your MP and make lots of noise. i assure that you will be heard.
i am not saying Australia is not a good country. it's perfect for retirement! i am also planning to move there one day but not at our prime and not when there is work to be done here on Singapore's politics. if you read my posts, you will see that i'm calling for the youths of Singapore to get involved in politics and try to change our systems if they feel that some policies are not beneficial to the growth of Singapore.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Singapore is safe, but not as safe as before. Crime rate gone up.
ya, lor of tiko pek and molest cases in school. Now me also wear 2 to 3 panties for safety -
Originally posted by Hua.jiamin:
I am so grateful and proud to be born a Singaporean. I love Singapore with all my heart and soul.
When I was a little child, my parents taught us to 飲水��, always remember in our heart and appreciate the courage, effort, hardwork and fortitude putforth by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and his team to build Singapore from a poor backward country without any natural resources to what it is today.
U sound like having communist red china mentality...dun need to kowtow and paid tribute to them as what chinese do to Mao Zedong, cos with our ever increasing and highest Ministers' Paid, you have already done enough, praising and bootlicking is not their bread and butter trade, just paid your high taxes and support their salaries will do just fine. -
Originally posted by angel7030:
ya, lor of tiko pek and molest cases in school. Now me also wear 2 to 3 panties for safety
it is because you are too desirable... too irresistible, too beautiful and too pretty for your own good... i mean no offence, really. let's be frank, even i turned my head if a pretty gal walked past. if you are beautiful, you have to accept the curse of it. that is the stare and the glare.look on the bright side, you help boost the sales of panties and improve the health of those tiko peks. (it keeps their blood circulation well... you know what i mean*)
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Originally posted by novelltie:
it is because you are too desirable... too irresistible, too beautiful and too pretty for your own good... i mean no offence, really. let's be frank, even i turned my head if a pretty gal walked past. if you are beautiful, you have to accept the curse of it. that is the stare and the glare.look on the bright side, you help boost the sales of panties and improve the health of those tiko peks. (it keeps their blood circulation well... you know what i mean*)
But i saw a lot of tiko peks come my joo chiat place happily but go back in an ambalance..over circulation liao...
and fyi, panties come in 3 for $3, so wear 3 lor, no boost of sale mah
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Well smoebody shares my sentiment on SPF.
Just a tool of the ruling people.
The only proud Singaporean is the Lee family.
So many slaves of evil. Majority of them are willing.
Here Singapore is under an effectively tyrannical government.
when a family rule a country for as long as in Singapore. There is no line between state or personal business.
No line between state or the Lees. No line what so ever.
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Due to work commitments, I have travelled and stayed in Australia, Malaysia, Taiwan, Indonesia, Hongkong, Africa....through which I gained immense experience and understanding and realise how lucky and fortunate I am, to be born as a Singaporean and living in a country that is peaceful and no war and governed by a good and upright Government. People from neighbouring countries have been telling me how lucky I am to be born as a Sinaporean too.
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Originally posted by novelltie:
good morning, guess we have to go through this debate here again...
all i did was listed out the advantage of us Chinese, Indians, Malays, Others living here in Singapore. i did not say it's due to our government entirely. i never implied that we have no natural disaster because of PAP.
first issue; crime rate. Johor Bahru itself isn't 20 times bigger than Singapore but look at the crime rate. it's reputation precedes itself.
second; you mentioned SPF... guess you must have a bad experience with them but still, we are looking at a very safe country compared to our neighbouring countries.
third; i have not used Australia as a main competitor but seriously, though some areas are less prone to racism, we know we will be treated a little different there by the whites. i've been to Brisbane as a tourist and i can assure you, you can really feel the difference in treatment.
fourth; income taxation at 42% and GST at 10%? woah! if you earn less than $30,000 in Singapore, no tax. period.
fifth; "In sg is u can only do something if they allow you to. In Oz, u can do anything you want unless they say you can't." - i see no difference. if they don't allow you to steal in Singapore, are you saying that you can do that in OZ?
sixth; you mentioned that Singaporeans have no rights? then fight for it! if you feel that you have been wronged by the minions of the government, seek redress instead of letting them walk over you. but get your facts right first and if you feel you've been short-changed, go f*ck somebody in that chain of command. you can write to newspapers, forums, Stomp, see your MP and make lots of noise. i assure that you will be heard.
i am not saying Australia is not a good country. it's perfect for retirement! i am also planning to move there one day but not at our prime and not when there is work to be done here on Singapore's politics. if you read my posts, you will see that i'm calling for the youths of Singapore to get involved in politics and try to change our systems if they feel that some policies are not beneficial to the growth of Singapore.
==== errm...i beg to differ. Lower tax rates & no tax rates is not necc a good thing. Why do we have low tax rates ? Bcos if you raise it higher, the rich will fly out of the country - duh...you think its for the benefits of the citizens? \Think twice, from beginning, we are run like a company - the objective is to generate profits - in terms of taxes and revenues. Thats why the government have to use instruments like income tax and company tax to attract the high-earners and multinational companies to invest here. Too high a tax rate, people will fly the flock. Australia have high tax rates but what is their national & average pay? And although Australia have high unemployment rate - they can survive without a job. Land is cheaper there, you can own a land, build a ranch and rear some animals, grow vegetables and be sustainable and lead your own carefree life.
Regarding rights - sure, each country, based on its requirements do sometimes set what is required and what is not. Perhaps, at the onset of independance where we are facing uncertainties and the unity & obedience of the people are required, we may be strict and draconian. But overtime, as the society progress, things change and so do policies. With Internet and blogs, no matter how you try to stifle, we are still able to get news and listen to views that may not neccessarily be plesant to the ears of the government. Things like porn are so accessible nowadays that its like having no censorship. The thing is, must the government continue to have a heavy hand in shutting off opposition views and suing them for defamation for every single word uttered?
Their actions speak for itself and they shld let the people decide whether or not they are trustworthy. The effects of this "stifling" style is already showing - in this competitive environment where creativity and innovation wins the bread, we find ourselves sorely lacking to compete amongst others - our education and training all along is to execute perfectly not to create. Now, the education minstry is trying to turn the direction but sadly its slow and probably take longer than this generation.
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Come up lah TS, sg is not the only country on earth that is free of war and is peaceful. Other countries are also doing well, these countries are without the leekuan yew and PAP. Lee kuan yew and pap are not indispensable.
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Originally posted by turby:
Erm, the fact that SG has no natural disasters, eg earthquakes, tsunamis and whatnots is coz of our geographical location and nothing to do with the govt.. Many places ard the world also have this advantage.
Our crime rate is considered low, also because sg is so small, no where to run. Also coz of our v.strict laws, and brainwashing by the govt. But if your car kena scratched on purpose even right in front of your eyes, or if you've gotten cheated of $$ (few hundreds to a k or 2), then you will know how useless sg law is.
SPF quite useless, all they tell you is they'll take statement, then u just suck thumb. In fact, this suck thumb policy seems to apply everywhere and s'poreans have become very used to this that they've forgotten their rights. Or they don't have any in the first place...
In sg is u can only do something if they allow you to. In Oz, u can do anything you want unless they say you can't. see the difference?SPF is confirmed hopeless. They refuse to help the resident with a fraud case. we are talking about fraud case, not kacang putih. It is a waste of money to have these useless SPF around.
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Hua.jiamin .. U need to know wat is happening behind all the good stuff.
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Their actions speak for itself and they shld let the people decide whether or not they are trustworthy. The effects of this "stifling" style is already showing - in this competitive environment where creativity and innovation wins the bread, we find ourselves sorely lacking to compete amongst others - our education and training all along is to execute perfectly not to create. Now, the education minstry is trying to turn the direction but sadly its slow and probably take longer than this generation.
Eh let's be reasonable here. We're a country that's just 43 years old, this "stifling" style was valid in a country of diverse cultures and languages with a rather high illteracy rate. It did help produce the workforce to sustain Singapore up to this point.
I work in the creative industry so i'm kinda annoyed when people assume that creativity and innovation can just be conjured out in a system. By its very nature, a system cannot produce creativity and innovation it can only produce a higher average and people to maintain and to slightly improve the system. That's why mavericks like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs drop out of school.
We like to go on about these rag to riches stories. But let's be realistic, how many unknown failures were there? How many people failed to produce 1 Bill Gates? By the rules of probability America had a 100 times better chance compared to us. They say Singaporeans aren't creative enough to create successful entrepreneurs, maybe we did had a lot who tried, but simply failed
Schools take up 8 hours of our day 5 days of the week (With CCA and such maybe more). The rest of the time is spent with friends and families. Why is it we feel that an education system would play a bigger part in who we are?
People say the Japanese are creative and innovative, but it's because they have a culture of striving for perfection and strong personal discipline. Culture is simply not something you can build in even 5 decades, even with the immense access of information from the internet. Because how we interpret and deal with that information is already formed when we were children. The same with our parents and their parents.
To be fair, LKY has done an incredible job with the educational system thus far. It has create a strong middle class who can make better choices. Given history, there was so much things that could go wrong along the way. So give the old man his due and stop raving about his mistakes.
Who can truthfully claim he has not done more good than bad?
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some times i don't know if u people who has the brain to write what u write in here are juz writing for fun or for real...coz seriously...if u juz write for fun..u're an inconsiderate internet user..u are given a chance to voice ur opinion and u choose to insult the government who brought us out of the control of COMMUNIST...
look at everything around u..who do u give credit to..?u give the credit to Singapore's senior citizens and forefathers...all that have worked in singapore since the start of our independence..and our senior citizens and forefathers have put trust in their leader who vowed to bring Singapore up..and when u wan to credit a team of people who have worked so hard...in a team coz everybody contributed...and someone gave the directions for this team to follow..and that's none other than the governement..who do u credit..? U credit the LEADER or THE GROUP. it's not that LKY is taking all the credit...it's juz he is the leader..everytime someone say SINGAPORE is good..he is crediting the whole country..let mi put it in simple terms.. PEOPLE CREDIT THE COUNTRY, AND U SAY LEE FAMILY GET ALL THE CREDIT, THEN MAYBE U'RE NOT PART OF THE COUNTRY?COZ U DIDN'T RECOGNISE THE CREDIT TO U TOO?
we're not working for nothing..paying taxes for nothing..for every policy that is implemented..there is A REASON behind..the government is not like you and mi...we can do something for no reason..the government DON'T.....if u don't understand y the government did a certain action or implement a policy...PLS GO PUT SOME ECONOMICS KNOWLEDGE INTO THAT EMPTY SKULL OF YOURS...why are u paying taxes..ERP..COE..GST..there is a reason for the good of the country behind it..if u don't understand..then don't freaking write all kinds of nonsense to mislead other internet users and our younger generations. and because of u writing ur nonsense...u're going to be the one who should not be credited for the growth of Singapore...coz u're causing more damage to the future of Singapore than contributing...
look..i ask u of a question..which country's politics who u like to have in ur country..?Japan..the country who wages war and honour their war criminals on national TV..have fights in their parliment and such unstable politics?Malaysia..i don't even need to say a thing..look at those buildings across the causeway..even the escalators don't work...?China...the country who don't care about the citizens and juz kick them out of their homes because of Olympics...?or which country..?
You are sitting in a country where the government did so much to bring itself out of poverty and took every effort to make this country independent..it poaches for the most capable of leaders to lead this country..not onli our prime minister..but also all the ministers and members of the goverment..and most of all..this is the government who ensures that infrastructure, financial factor, military factors are well prepared in times of difficulty and war..all ur mobile lines and buses..all the public core services are governed by Singapore...all foreign companies have at least 51% equity stakes in the hands of Singaporeans or the government..u wan to protect the country..? Start with yourself...~~
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Originally posted by Hua.jiamin:
Due to work commitments, I have travelled and stayed in Australia, Malaysia, Taiwan, Indonesia, Hongkong, Africa....through which I gained immense experience and understanding and realise how lucky and fortunate I am, to be born as a Singaporean and living in a country that is peaceful and no war and governed by a good and upright Government. People from neighbouring countries have been telling me how lucky I am to be born as a Sinaporean too.
Sina porean!!! wow! even foreigners is critising u with funny name and u still feel lucky hor.If singapore is so good, why when 80,000 PR are offered citizenship, no one take up.
No doubt one should alway said his/her own country good, even u ask a village gal from china, she will said the good about her village, and i will praise her, but then on the hindsight, i guess she needs some shaking up.
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Come up lah TS, sg is not the only country on earth that is free of war and is peaceful. Other countries are also doing well, these countries are without the leekuan yew and PAP. Lee kuan yew and pap are not indispensable.
True, but consider that Singapore started off with diverse culture, religion and races who are historically hostile or unfriendly with each other. How many things could have gone wrong from the experience of history?
I would like you to show me a few countries that has a mixing pot demography like us and most importantly do not have racial related bloodshed or a single race dominating depriving the other races of equal rights. I'm ignorant, enlighten me.
LKY and the PAP are not indispensable this century i agree fullheartedly. But i think it's incredibly unfair to think they are not the main reason that Singapore has progressed thus far. And also to ignore the effort it took.
SPF is confirmed hopeless. They refuse to help the resident with a fraud case. we are talking about fraud case, not kacang putih. It is a waste of money to have these useless SPF around.
I agree, the SPF needs serious reform. It seems the only way to get any sort of police help is to call saying you want to start a protest.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Come up lah TS, sg is not the only country on earth that is free of war and is peaceful. Other countries are also doing well, these countries are without the leekuan yew and PAP. Lee kuan yew and pap are not indispensable.
You are the one person that the government would think is dispensable...each country which have done well couldn't have done it without a good leadership or government..people in the country don't juz work and work and the economy juz turn for the better..this is also the reason y our neighbour's Anwar is making it big now..coz he felt the government is not good enough..he came up all by his own without the government's support..u wan to talk about a leader..?or an indispensable leader...?go study history..look at how LKY made it in the Singapore politics back then..and study how similar it is to Anwar now..these 2 men deserve credits for their bravery and courage to stand up for their beliefs and their people..if Anwar takes over and he has what it takes..he will groom Msia like how LKY groom Singapore..you wanna talk about great men..?u better get ur facts right and don't talk nonsense...
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
SPF is confirmed hopeless. They refuse to help the resident with a fraud case. we are talking about fraud case, not kacang putih. It is a waste of money to have these useless SPF around.
and u have again brought shame to ur own face..if u are the head of SPF...facing 4,000,000 citizens, would u put so much resources into this fraud case..?knowing that citizens are educated on such issues all the time and they themselves have to be on guard for such crimes?
and would u look at the bigger picture and solve the whole problem..?or solve ONE fraud case..?
CAN U USE YOUR BRAINS AND THINK BEFORE U POST?OR IS IT AN EMPTY SKULL...????????
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Originally posted by harrymushroom:
and u have again brought shame to ur own face..if u are the head of SPF...facing 4,000,000 citizens, would u put so much resources into this fraud case..?knowing that citizens are educated on such issues all the time and they themselves have to be on guard for such crimes?
and would u look at the bigger picture and solve the whole problem..?or solve ONE fraud case..?
CAN U USE YOUR BRAINS AND THINK BEFORE U POST?OR IS IT AN EMPTY SKULL...????????
when the world revolves around you, your problem is the most important one in the world, and the only one that matters.
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Originally posted by harrymushroom:
and u have again brought shame to ur own face..if u are the head of SPF...facing 4,000,000 citizens, would u put so much resources into this fraud case..?knowing that citizens are educated on such issues all the time and they themselves have to be on guard for such crimes?
and would u look at the bigger picture and solve the whole problem..?or solve ONE fraud case..?
CAN U USE YOUR BRAINS AND THINK BEFORE U POST?OR IS IT AN EMPTY SKULL...????????
Are u a Clone??