Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Don't see anything wrong with that.
They are under control of PAP regime, so their job is to spread state propaganda and promote state policies.
They are controlled by PAP regime, you can't expect them to go and criticise PAP regime on why must increase population to 6.5 million. That is clearly not possible for them.
It doesn't bother me because I keep a clear distance away from mainstream media.
I never expect them to work against PAP. So ?????? Yes it does not bother you but not everyone is smart to know that that is propaganda. What are you trying to insinuate?
FT is a issue people have to deal with. marriage and birth is stuff that will happen. maybe write in to TCS ask them to make programmes on divorce and abortion instead.
what ever people are concerned about becomes a programmes, except for religion and politics.
Yes it does not bother you but not everyone is smart to know that that is propaganda. What are you trying to insinuate?
That is why I support reform of media industry to include both state propaganda and private propaganda.
Now all state propaganda.
All mainstream media is state propaganda.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:That is not the issue.
Issue is PAP regime monopolising mainstream media to spread state propaganda.
Look (read below) what you just posted. You are contradicting yourself. ARe you senile like LKY? Are you practising double standard like the PAP?
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Don't see anything wrong with that.
They are under control of PAP regime, so their job is to spread state propaganda and promote state policies.
They are controlled by PAP regime, you can't expect them to go and criticise PAP regime on why must increase population to 6.5 million. That is clearly not possible for them.
It doesn't bother me because I keep a clear distance away from mainstream media.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
I'm talking about mainstream media chin eng.
Mainstream media.
As in TV, Print and Radio.
The power of propaganda lies in mainstream media.
seriously, mainstream media eg TV print and radio do not actively praise PAP. Yes, the news are a little bias.... but you do not get propaganda messages in between TV commercials.
by all thoughts and intents... mainstream media do no propagate government policies.... news propagate government policies....
it's the NEWS that is where propaganda is.... not mainstream media per se.
it's not like they have PAP hour each night, or suddenly everyday at lunch time you hear Hsien Loong's voice over the PA system.
Yes, I think there was some confusion there.
If a media is under control of PAP regime and it follows the agenda of PAP regime, I do not find anything wrong with that.
For example if SDP website spreads SDP propaganda. That is okay.
What I object to is when all medium is under control of PAP regime to spread their propaganda.
So SDP sets up a site to propagate that is okay.
But when all sites in the world is under SDP control to spread SDP propaganda, that is not okay.
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
seriously, mainstream media eg TV print and radio do not actively praise PAP. Yes, the news are a little bias.... but you do not get propaganda messages in between TV commercials.by all thoughts and intents... mainstream media do no propagate government policies.... news propagate government policies....
it's the NEWS that is where propaganda is.... not mainstream media per se.
different people see different stuff. i see a normal tv programme. others see a PAP propagada.
any tv programme that will make people feel inclined to vote for PAP after watching it?
seriously, mainstream media eg TV print and radio do not actively praise PAP. Yes, the news are a little bias.... but you do not get propaganda messages in between TV commercials.by all thoughts and intents... mainstream media do no propagate government policies.... news propagate government policies....
it's the NEWS that is where propaganda is.... not mainstream media per se.
Do you watch Singapore mainstream media?
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
seriously, mainstream media eg TV print and radio do not actively praise PAP. Yes, the news are a little bias.... but you do not get propaganda messages in between TV commercials.by all thoughts and intents... mainstream media do no propagate government policies.... news propagate government policies....
it's the NEWS that is where propaganda is.... not mainstream media per se.
that is not true. A good eg is that show on ch8, the hdb dwellers in the rented flat, the characters in the show were praising that the govt in sg are good a few times. Some people know how to tell if it is propaganda but there are still many who just simply are brainwashed.
that is not true. A good eg is that show on ch8, the hdb dwellers in the rented flat, the characters in the show were praising that the govt in sg are good a few times. Some people know how to tell if it is propaganda but there are still many who just simply are brainwashed.
That was only the tip of iceberg only.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Do you watch Singapore mainstream media?
does not seem like he is watching the mainstream TV or just simply refuse to acknowledge the existence of propaganda in mainstream tv channels.
does not seem like he is watching the mainstream TV or just simply refuse to acknowledge the existence of propaganda in mainstream tv channels.
It is not that there is existence of propaganda in mainstream media.
But the mainstream media IS propaganda.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:It is not that there is existence of propaganda in mainstream media.
But the mainstream media IS propaganda.
To be fair, not everything on the mainstream media is propaganda.
To be fair, not everything on the mainstream media is propaganda.
Singapore mainstream media is nothing but the propaganda mouth piece of PAP regime to me.
It is nothing but state propaganda.
It exists to spread state propaganda.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Singapore mainstream media is nothing but the propaganda mouth piece of PAP regime to me.
It is nothing but state propaganda.
It exists to spread state propaganda.
It is so much propaganda once the lee kuan yew took over as pm.
It is so much propaganda once the lee kuan yew took over as pm.
He needs a good propaganda machine to win elections and to brainwash people to follow his dictates.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:He needs a good propaganda machine to win elections and to brainwash people to follow his dictates.
Agree. It would be very interesting to see if there are changes after he passes on.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Singapore mainstream media is nothing but the propaganda mouth piece of PAP regime to me.
It is nothing but state propaganda.
It exists to spread state propaganda.
it may be difficult to seperate truth from half truth, it is easy to determine if all media is propaganda. all i need to do is list one that is not.
for the internet, that will be the STforums, which is hosted by straits times. for the actual newspaper, it will be in the reader's letter column, where some columnist will write about the government policies.
Singapore mainstream media is easy.
It is all mostly state propaganda.
There is no opposition propaganda.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Singapore mainstream media is easy.
It is all mostly state propaganda.
There is no opposition propaganda.
and what kind of propaganda will the opposition like to broadcast?
See:
www.yourSDP.org
http://www.wp.sg/wordpress/index.php
http://wpsgnews.blogspot.com
http://hammersphere.wordpress.com
http://www.spp.org.sg
http://www.nsp.sg
http://www.geocities.com/pkms218
http://www.reform-party.com
http://theonlinecitizen.com
http://www.singapore-window.org
http://www.littlespeck.com
http://www.newsintercom.org
http://www.sgreview.org
http://tomorrow.sg
http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.com
http://melvintansg.blogspot.com
http://yawshinleong.blogspot.com
http://catherinelim.sg
http://aidilomar.com
http://www.yawningbread.org
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com
http://singaporerebel.blogspot.com
http://www.jamesgomeznews.com
http://www.sgpolitics.net
http://mrwangsaysso.blogspot.com
http://chemgen.wordpress.com
http://www.mrbrown.com
http://seijieiga.blogspot.com
http://singaporeindianvoice.blogspot.com
http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com
http://catherinelim.sg
http://singaporeelection.blogspot.com
http://www.singaporeangle.com
http://leewatch.info
http://singaporegovt.blogspot.com
http://www.talkingcock.com/html/index.php
http://singaporedonkey.wordpress.com
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:See:
www.yourSDP.org
http://www.wp.sg/wordpress/index.php
http://wpsgnews.blogspot.com
http://hammersphere.wordpress.com
http://www.spp.org.sg
http://www.nsp.sg
http://www.geocities.com/pkms218
http://www.reform-party.com
http://theonlinecitizen.com
http://www.singapore-window.org
http://www.littlespeck.com
http://www.newsintercom.org
http://www.sgreview.org
http://tomorrow.sg
http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.com
http://melvintansg.blogspot.com
http://yawshinleong.blogspot.com
http://catherinelim.sg
http://aidilomar.comhttp://www.yawningbread.org
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com
http://singaporerebel.blogspot.com
http://www.jamesgomeznews.com
http://www.sgpolitics.net
http://mrwangsaysso.blogspot.com
http://chemgen.wordpress.com
http://www.mrbrown.com
http://seijieiga.blogspot.com
http://singaporeindianvoice.blogspot.com
http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com
http://catherinelim.sg
http://singaporeelection.blogspot.com
http://www.singaporeangle.com
http://leewatch.info
http://singaporegovt.blogspot.com
http://www.talkingcock.com/html/index.php
http://singaporedonkey.wordpress.com
all political stuff... so boring... most people watch tv for 2 things.. entertainment and news. political stuff is on internet and kopitiam.
if someone really set up a political channel, the station will most probably go bankrupt from lack of viewers.
all political stuff... so boring...
Have you seen Taiwan media on politics?
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Yes, I think there was some confusion there.
If a media is under control of PAP regime and it follows the agenda of PAP regime, I do not find anything wrong with that.
For example if SDP website spreads SDP propaganda. That is okay.
What I object to is when all medium is under control of PAP regime to spread their propaganda.
So SDP sets up a site to propagate that is okay.
But when all sites in the world is under SDP control to spread SDP propaganda, that is not okay.
what? SDP no website?
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:See:
www.yourSDP.org
....
http://www.talkingcock.com/html/index.php
http://singaporedonkey.wordpress.com
so it goes to show not ALL MEDIA is PAP controlled.