Race and Nationality ?
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For Singaporean Chinese the race in the IC stated Chinese, for china worker holding work permit their Nationality it stated Chinese, so just wandering Chinese is it a nationality or a race?
For the Malay although all the Malay speaks same language but the race is differrent, in their IC stated boyan, bugis, jawa or Malay.
For Indian, some IC stated Indian but not from India for Singh, race is Sikh. For some Hindustani or Pakistani...
U can't call yourself American if u were born and live your life in British...
Who the ones choose your race?
Why do they divided all the Malay and Indian to groups and Chinese not?
How they categorized u belong to what race..
Correct me if I am wrong. I just want to why, how & who. Thats all not more than that. hope u all will think positive.
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need so geh gao or not.....
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Originally posted by rockfire:
For Singaporean Chinese the race in the IC stated Chinese, for china worker holding work permit their Nationality it stated Chinese, so just wandering Chinese is it a nationality or a race?
For the Malay although all the Malay speaks same language but the race is differrent, in their IC stated boyan, bugis, jawa or Malay.
For Indian, some IC stated Indian but not from India for Singh, race is Sikh. For some Hindustani or Pakistani...
U can't call yourself American if u were born and live your life in British...
Who the ones choose your race?
Why do they divided all the Malay and Indian to groups and Chinese not?
How they categorized u belong to what race..
Correct me if I am wrong. I just want to why, how & who. Thats all not more than that. hope u all will think positive.
Race is a non-scientific measure of man. Only people entrenched in nazi eugenics shit believe in it. -
Eh rockfire.. your post so funny lor.
You Asian or not ah ?
You know what is Asian ?
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Originally posted by foxwalk:
Race is a non-scientific measure of man. Only people entrenched in nazi eugenics shit believe in it.
Wikipedia: The term race or racial group usually refers to the concept of dividing humans into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of characteristicsthere's no measure. it's merely classification. and there's nothing wrong with classification.
as long as it is not forced against the will of any, i am for the preservation of racial groups (i.e. i for one, as a matter of personal choice and free will, will not date/mate/marry someone who's not chinese).
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btw TS your question damn hao xiao ..
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Originally posted by rockfire:
For Singaporean Chinese the race in the IC stated Chinese, for china worker holding work permit their Nationality it stated Chinese, so just wandering Chinese is it a nationality or a race?
For the Malay although all the Malay speaks same language but the race is differrent, in their IC stated boyan, bugis, jawa or Malay.
For Indian, some IC stated Indian but not from India for Singh, race is Sikh. For some Hindustani or Pakistani...
U can't call yourself American if u were born and live your life in British...
Who the ones choose your race?
Why do they divided all the Malay and Indian to groups and Chinese not?
How they categorized u belong to what race..
Correct me if I am wrong. I just want to why, how & who. Thats all not more than that. hope u all will think positive.
Find the definition of bumiputra.
Is it a race?
Chinese is a race with 56 ethnic groups, the Han is the largest : 92%
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Why do they divided all the Malay and Indian to groups and Chinese not?
That is true, could be part of a PAP regime's agenda of destroying the chinese dialects groups in Singapore.
Indian, malay groups, they divide them up, keep them divided, while chinese they may want to destroy all dialect groups and unite them into one solid solid group.
A futile effort if there is indeed such a policy.
You have to go ask Lee Kuan Yew.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
That is true, could be part of a PAP regime's agenda of destroying the chinese dialects groups in Singapore.
Indian, malay groups, they divide them up, keep them divided, while chinese they may want to destroy all dialect groups and unite them into one solid solid group.
A futile effort if there is indeed such a policy.
You have to go ask Lee Kuan Yew.
conspiracy therory or proven fact? but it does make sense..
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I have a suggestion,why not call everybody SIngaporean and forget about putting the race in the ID just like the Thais.You can call yourself a SIngh ,Malay ,Chinese or anything at home but the moment you meet other people outside you become one with them.
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conspiracy therory or proven fact? but it does make sense..
You have to go and ask Lee Kuan Yew.
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
I have a suggestion,why not call everybody SIngaporean and forget about putting the race in the ID just like the Thais.You can call yourself a SIngh ,Malay ,Chinese or anything at home but the moment you meet other people outside you become one with them.
Watch Rambo. -
Originally posted by jojobeach:
Eh rockfire.. your post so funny lor.
You Asian or not ah ?
You know what is Asian ?
Jojobeach, I am Asian. From what i know is asian represent us, mixed people.If you know the correct answer for Asian. Pls share with me and the rest in the furom. Maybe will learn something.
thanks jojobeach
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
I have a suggestion,why not call everybody SIngaporean and forget about putting the race in the ID just like the Thais.You can call yourself a SIngh ,Malay ,Chinese or anything at home but the moment you meet other people outside you become one with them.
Strongly agree with u short ninja. although our grandfather or grand-grandfther come to singapore from different countries, but we are born in singapore as a new generation of singaporean, Why not singaporean? -
Originally posted by googoomuck:
Find the definition of bumiputra.
Is it a race?
Chinese is a race with 56 ethnic groups, the Han is the largest : 92%
Bumiputera or Bumiputra is a Malay political term widely used in Malaysia, embracing ethnic Malays, Javanese, Bugis, Minang and occasionally other indigenous ethnic groups such as the Orang Asli in Peninsular Malaysia and the tribal peoples in Sabah and Sarawak. This term comes from the Sanskrit word Bhumiputra, which can be translated literally as "son of earth" (bhumi= earth, putra=son) or son of the soil.
If u are talking about malaysia, their ID don't stated race Bumiputra..correct me if i am wrong.
I have seen china workers work permit it state Nationality Chinese.
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Originally posted by FireIce:
need so geh gao or not.....
What does that mean? -
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
You have to go and ask Lee Kuan Yew.
haha, if can't find the answer than i will ask him. It not the time yet to ask him. -
hopefully u can share any info, Pls give positive info. if anybody think that this thread can cause harm to people in the forum pls inform me.
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Originally posted by rockfire:
For Singaporean Chinese the race in the IC stated Chinese, for china worker holding work permit their Nationality it stated Chinese, so just wandering Chinese is it a nationality or a race?
For the Malay although all the Malay speaks same language but the race is differrent, in their IC stated boyan, bugis, jawa or Malay.
For Indian, some IC stated Indian but not from India for Singh, race is Sikh. For some Hindustani or Pakistani...
U can't call yourself American if u were born and live your life in British...
Who the ones choose your race?
Why do they divided all the Malay and Indian to groups and Chinese not?
How they categorized u belong to what race..
Correct me if I am wrong. I just want to why, how & who. Thats all not more than that. hope u all will think positive.
Chinese are also categorized too. In Thailand, your nationality can be Thai, but your race can be Chinese and hence Thai-Chinese.GOD is the one who chose our race.
You are categorized into the race you belongs to based on your parent's race. If one of your parent is Indian, and the other is Chinese, then you're Indian-Chinese or Chinese-Indian.
Just don't mix up Nationality and Race, they are different groups. But Chinese is used in Nationality and Race coincidentally.
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whatever race lah, as long as you got money in Singapore, care so much for what??
afterall, we the citizens of Singapore, pledge ourselves as one united peoples, be it PRC, Bangala, Indian, Thai, Viet, Indo, Malay, Chinese, Polynsian and Caucasian, regardless of races, languages and religions, to built a demorcratic society base on justice, equality and monetary.
Got it.
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the ideals rarely happens...
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Originally posted by parn:
Chinese are also categorized too. In Thailand, your nationality can be Thai, but your race can be Chinese and hence Thai-Chinese.GOD is the one who chose our race.
You are categorized into the race you belongs to based on your parent's race. If one of your parent is Indian, and the other is Chinese, then you're Indian-Chinese or Chinese-Indian.
Just don't mix up Nationality and Race, they are different groups. But Chinese is used in Nationality and Race coincidentally.
Agree with u 70%, I don't believe in coincidental. There are reasons behind something we do. That why we do it
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Originally posted by angel7030:
whatever race lah, as long as you got money in Singapore, care so much for what??
afterall, we the citizens of Singapore, pledge ourselves as one united peoples, be it PRC, Bangala, Indian, Thai, Viet, Indo, Malay, Chinese, Polynsian and Caucasian, regardless of races, languages and religions, to built a demorcratic society base on justice, equality and monetary.
Got it.
People are dividing us, as Singaporean that pledge ourselves as one united people regardless of race, languages and religion to built a DEMOCRATIC society base on JUSTICE, equality so as to achieves happiness & prosperity for our NATION...
correct me if i am wrong. long time never take the pledge.
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Originally posted by rockfire:
People are dividing us, as Singaporean that pledge ourselves as one united people regardless of race, languages and religion to built a DEMOCRATIC society base on JUSTICE, equality so as to achieves happiness & prosperity for our NATION...
correct me if i am wrong. long time never take the pledge.
when all things had changed, why u still pledge a 60's motto, time to change ya -
Originally posted by angel7030:
when all things had changed, why u still pledge a 60's motto, time to change ya
i like ur style. -
Originally posted by rockfire:
Bumiputera or Bumiputra is a Malay political term widely used in Malaysia, embracing ethnic Malays, Javanese, Bugis, Minang and occasionally other indigenous ethnic groups such as the Orang Asli in Peninsular Malaysia and the tribal peoples in Sabah and Sarawak. This term comes from the Sanskrit word Bhumiputra, which can be translated literally as "son of earth" (bhumi= earth, putra=son) or son of the soil.
If u are talking about malaysia, their ID don't stated race Bumiputra..correct me if i am wrong.
I have seen china workers work permit it state Nationality Chinese.
Also from Wiki:
The concept is coined by Tunku Abdul Rahman. A number of ethnic groups collectively become bumiputras. It has become a race. It does not have to be stated in identity cards. It's in the constitution.
The reason is to prevent the minority non-natives from controlling the country's economy.
What's wrong with nationality Chinese for PRC workers? They are Chinese, aren't they? I have not yet seen any PRC workers from other minor ethnic groups except the Hans.