SDP’s policy paper on National Service
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They won't cover up Britain's intent to instigate German-Russian war.
They will propagate it.
Russian Foreign Intelligence Service declassifies Munich Agreement papers
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080929/117271264.html
Munich secrets: declassified
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so the russians won't make stuff up to further their own agenda?
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Yes they will.
But Britain instigate German-Russian war is real, not made up bullshit.
Date: 16 Aug 1936
Scope/content:
Letter from WSC to Major-General Sir Hugh Tudor, thanks for letter on the European political situation. Commenting that a strong and growing section of Conservative opinion agreed with Tudor that Britain should form a strong Western Alliance with France and Germany, leaving Germany free to deal with the Soviet Union .
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and you believe it 100% because the russians say so.
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No, of course not.
Must look at all the facts and evidence.
For example from british archives also:
Date: 08 Jan 1939
Scope/content:
Letter from WSC (Chateau de L'Horizon, Cannes) to CSC, reporting on visit to Paris, where he had meetings with Paul Reynaud, Sir Eric Phipps, Leon Blum, discussing French relations with Italy and Germany, also discussing fear in London that Hitler would turn against Britain, instead of going to the East...
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You seem to defend the british skythewood, why?
You trust their propaganda?
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so 99% of english historians ignore all this damning proof?
Historians will have theory, and find evidence to support their theory, and try to explain away proof that contradict them.
doubtful and debatable, yes. 100%? well, unless hitler was brainwashed by british to do what they want. they could have brainwashed hitler to not bomb britain so much.
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unless hitler was brainwashed by british
No Hitler was not brainwashed by Britain.
But it is true that Britain signalled to him that they would not oppose him if he moved eastwards.
For example in Nov 1937:
Thus, in the negotiations leading up to Munich, November 19, 1937, Lord Halifax told Hitler:
All other questions could be characterized as relating to changes in the European order, changes that sooner or later would probably take place. To these questions belonged Danzig, Austria and Czechoslovakia. England was only interested that any alterations should be effected by peaceful evolution...
http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/ni/vol14/no05/coben.htm
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eerr... britain opposing germany from attacking russia? wasn't britain really really tied up just trying to defend themselves? and hitler believe britain? aren't they like, at war? and so britain betrayed hitler's trust by invading europe through normandy eventually?
that is the big plot? how did he signal, like make a phone call?
man, hitler is really really stupid.
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This plan to allow Germany to expand eastwards was leaked to the press in Nov 1937 as well:
...The Yorkshire Post, owned by Mrs. Eden's family, did its best to sabotage Lord Halifax's visit. It was rebuked by the London Daily Telegraph (which is close to Mr. Chamberlain) for printing rumors that "There exist and are known to Germany to exist in this country [Britain] a "certain number of people—not all of them obscure [Halifax & friends]— who would be prepared to welcome a German campaign of territorial expansion in the East [Austria, Czechoslovakia, Russia]...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,758455,00.html
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See below diplomatic record:
Record of a Conversation between the Fuhrer and Reichskanzler and Lord Halifax, in the presence of the Reichsminister of Foreign Affairs, in Obersalzberg, Nov. 19, 1937
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same thing, not 100%. you just told me that british cover stuff up, i won't believe them.
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eerr... britain opposing germany from attacking russia? wasn't britain really really tied up just trying to defend themselves? and hitler believe britain? aren't they like, at war? and so britain betrayed hitler's trust by invading europe through normandy eventually?
that is the big plot? how did he signal, like make a phone call?
You are not clear about european events.
You did not study the history.
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same thing, not 100%. you just told me that british cover stuff up, i won't believe them.
Record is from German archive, not british achive.
I get the feeling you are not serious about discussing history.
Just oppose for sake of opposing.
Like that we can end here.
No point also.
I bring up evidence, diplomatic record, but you not serious.
Pointless already.
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actually, i already told you i am not reading the stuff you post.
i know that britain and germany is at war during that period, and german went on to attack russia after a stalemate attacking britain. the reasons agreed on is because russia suck at fighting war, and hitler want to build his empire in russia.
hitler don't really trust other people. especially people he is at war with.
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So be it, I see your knowledge of WWII history is not that deep.
So discuss in detail also difficult.
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if you read my post, i am not really discussing history with you.
I am saying that there is no way that you can be 100% sure a mainstream history is FALSE. mainstream as in globally, about 50%, Not like japan mainstream.
100%? I don't think so.
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I am saying that there is no way that you can be 100% sure a mainstream history is FALSE.
you are wrong on that point.
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are you 100% sure?
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100% clear.
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haha, have fun.
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NS,reservist and IPPT test are one of the main reasons why more n more Singaporeans are moving out of this fuk up country.Let us not forget,even those countries that impose National Service doesnt require those who have completed NS go back camp every year to do "reservist" n take the stupid IPPT test.
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Hell, I'm going back to camp next month.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
frankly, i'll ask CSJ..
he rants and rages about "democracy" but can't get it into his head that he is soundly rejected by the majority... the VAST majority.
Soundly rejected by the majority,or the VAST majority,are you,Mr Siao Ah Bear and the PAP,not CSJ!!!
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Remember to bring out some guns,in case there are revolts in future,we might need them.
