I doubt many will turn up.
Pragmatism Extremists here and there.
Maybe you are also ahead of your time....
Remember, its singaporeans you are talking about, not any other democratic society.
i will bring the sgforum banners and flags to support it. Seeya
Why only Stand Up For media freedom on campus but not for whole Singapore? If you stand up for media freedom on Singapore there will be many time more of people attending because this is concerning all Singaporeans. And remember the cause of restriction of media freedom in campus is the symptom of restriction of Singapore media freedom by those burecrat government. Isn't not it?
if u want a cutting edge knowledge based education , go overseas. I mean look at the world's top talents - Warren Buffet, Bill gates, and pretty much everyone else who are known for achievements are all from universities all around the world.
Singapore has none of this calibre and relies on foreign talents even for basic development of the nation.
Originally posted by SPLIT SECOND:if u want a cutting edge knowledge based education , go overseas. I mean look at the world's top talents - Warren Buffet, Bill gates, and pretty much everyone else who are known for achievements are all from universities all around the world.
Singapore has none of this calibre and relies on foreign talents even for basic development of the nation.
go oversea for what?? here can shake legs, got plenty of foods, disco, playground, handsome dudes, simple fashion, free roaming, night safety, good weather and most of all, simplicity.
At times, knowledge and education make u a mouse instead of a tiger.
Can I request for a relocation of venue?
I would preferred the venue to be at Buangkok IMH instead.
Cos the existing residents at Buangkok IMH is wiser than the participants.
At least the existing residents at Buangkok IMH do not hide under the shadow of their pride and hypocrisy.
Just one kind advice....
Pride is what will end up killing all the SG Guys, until they can self-realised and humble themselves within themselves, they won't be able to find peace within themselves before they die in the future.
how about "standing up for the right to protest for media freedom in singapore?"
Oh man i feel for you this is a lost cause... There is no such thing as freedom of speech for one area only.. Its whole country or none..
Even if by way of some miraculous divine intervention you manage to be GRANTED of such thing notice the contradiction -- Freedom of speech within boundaries decided by the government is a contradiction in terms. You would only have won superficially and not in reality..
fighting hard for a low probability of succeeding and no real value attained... hmmmm.. not worth your time.. Go overseas Ba.....
Sorry double post
I understand where most of you are coming from when you talk about media freedom as whole that cannot be separated between state and institution.
The state media is an entirely different discussion here. Like what a poster, (human) said, this is perhaps symptomatic of the state, but what we're specifically concerned about our campus media because the university is supposed to be an autonomous institution of higher learning.
We firmly want to engage our university in allowing for greater media freedom in campus simply because we see the potential value of the freedom in helping to propel NTU forward as a world-class university.
We are not turning this into a political-fest, nor was the original intentions political to begin with. Thus we are steering clear of "media freedom", in the loosest of definitions. Regardless, the reason why the platform used is public despite our "domestic" concerns is because of the university's refusal to allow us to speak in campus.
Therefore, we have no choice but to go to our next best alternative, a public space that is sanctioned by the state.
And yes, I do think the level of media freedom in NTU is almost stifling, worse than the state, and thus we are attempting to push it up one notch. The open dialogue we intend to hold has nothing to do with breaking the status quo of society per se, but just NTU.
We definitely are not foolish to the point of pushing for a media freedom "wider" than what the state has allowed!
The open dialogue we intend to hold has nothing to do with breaking the status quo of society per se, but just NTU
I don't think Lee Kuan Yew will allow that.
It's best for you to follow state propaganda and don't ask too many questions.
the communications school should be the last line of defence to ensure that the next generation understands what it means to have a free media, and its importance.
now that such things have happened, i think we've lost the last line of defence as well...
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:the communications school should be the last line of defence to ensure that the next generation understands what it means to have a free media, and its importance.
now that such things have happened, i think we've lost the last line of defence as well...
On the contrary, this open dialogue has been held by the communications school in NTU. There is still hope for the future! At the very least we are reacting and not accepting.
We are incensed at the actions of the university because what they have done really goes against the ideals and lessons we have learnt so far. Yes, are not foolish, nor stupid, and understand the difference between ideal and practicality.
Still, university is often felt to be the last vestige of idealism, and we would like to actually keep university as idealistic as possible, before we step out into the real world and fold to the harsh reality.
I think TS post is valid. A country's educational institutions play a vital role in its progress.
Our entire school system is based on the notion of passive students that must be "taught" if they are to learn. . Our country each year not just giving students a second-rate education, but at the same time actively preventing them from getting an education on their own. And I'm angry at how school produces submissive students with battered egos. Most students have no idea of the true joys of learning, and of how much they can actually achieve on their own.
The quality of a university is measured more by the kind of student it turns out than the kind it takes in
A liberal education... frees a man from the prison-house of his class, race, time, place, background, family and even his nation. ~Robert Maynard Hutchins
4 the sake of the NTU and NUS Uni, we NUSS members would give a full support to it.
C u then!!!.
My Uncle IMHU patients will also be there to give you support.
Hey all...the open dialogue has been held today. Here are some of the press coverage we managed to get...and there will be more tomorrow...
Also, do read tomorrow's edition of TODAY and Lianhe ZaoBao too! In addition, watch out for tomorrow's news at 930pm and 10pm at channel 5/CNA as well! =)
Let's hope that our positive actions will help our university, NTU, become a better place for learning!
In addition, other campus/alternative media have also covered us such as The Campus Observer from NUS, The Online Citizen, SpectrumTV from NTU, and The Enquirer. Stay tuned on their websites for articles!
Based on the media coverage we received (international, national, and alternative), turn out by concerned members of the public, and also the number of signatures we received on the petition, we are glad to announce the event a success!
We thank all who supported our cause, and especially to those who came down, "bravo!"
hey! got recording or video footage?
but isn't those the propaganda newsmedia of PAP too?
Originally posted by skythewood:but isn't those the propaganda newsmedia of PAP too?
All the more it tells you that our event and intention wasn't political, but purely to better our university =)
but i feel the fact that they are broadcasting this news is sort of like... they already have the reedom to do this in the first place?
Originally posted by packetofblood:hey! got recording or video footage?
I believe SpectrumTV and The Online Citizen have video footages. However due to the nature of editing, and the fact that these 2 media sources are student-ran, I think you would need to wait for close to a week...and also...not too sure if SpectrumTV will be allowed to air what they filmed today hahax...