Singapore government conspiracies
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Originally posted by skythewood:
You got me... my real identity is... Sang Nila Utama!!
oh..please,,,no more history...i hate it!!!! get out of this thread. It full of moles...arrrrggghhhhh -
Maybe Wong Kan Seng is the opposition mole, setting Mas Selamat free to destroy PAP...
There are a few theories to why Mas Selamat escaped.
1. Mas Selamat was set free due to a deal between the terrorist Org and our Gov.
2. Mas Selamat was set free due to a deal between the ISD and his family, in helping the ISD identify the other cell members.
3. Mas Selamat escape was accidental, but the delay in the search was deliberate to "let him" escape. This was because ISD was having a hard time to deal with Mas Selamat in a politically correct way, in view of the growing resentment of the muslim community towards ISD way of handling muslim radicals.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Maybe Wong Kan Seng is the opposition mole, setting Mas Selamat free to destroy PAP...
and Chee is the PAP mole, trying to destroy opposition...
just like some movie i seen before..
You mean Infernal Affairs the movie? -
they might be hiding info but they are not that capable to cook up anything.
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A story is that the mole is this senior civil servant from NEA who will be jailed and then he will join the SDP or WP to further discredit it. Many of the details about him in the froum thread has been deleted to cover up his track:
http://www.sgclub.com/singapore/nea_manager_guilty_45255.html
NEA manager guilty of sending false terrorist attack messages
By Elena Chong, Court Correspondent
Neo Khoon Sing who was tried for 24 days, was convicted of sending hoax warnings about terrorist attacks to government websites in 2005. -- ST PHOTO: WONG KWAI CHOW
A NATIONAL Environment Agency (NEA) senior manager was found guilty of three charges of sending false feedback messages about possible terrorist and bomb attacks to government websites in 2005.
Neo Khoon Sing, 38, who has been suspended from duty, is the first to be tried under the United Nations (Anti-Terrorism Measures) Regulations, which make it an criminal offence to spread false alarms about terrorist acts.
Most of the offenders accused of making alarmist messages have pleaded guilty and jailed since the law was introduced in 2001.
Neo, who was tried for 24 days, was convicted of sending hoax warnings about terrorist attacks to eCitizen Defence & Security eTown feedback website and Ministry of Home Affairs feedback unit on Oct 18, 2005 at the NEA North East Regional Office at Sin Min Drive.
He was also convicted of sending a long e-mail about a 'plot to conduct suicide bomb attack against PM, Ministers and MPs in a major event in Bedok Reservoir area in the coming weeks' to the PMO Feedback Unit the next day.
Neo, who was then the co-leader of a sub-committee for NEA's Clean and Green Week 2005, used fake Muslim names to send out the messages.
Besides Neo's statements, the prosecution, led by Deputy Public Prosecutors Christopher Ong and Crystal Ong, had based its case largely on circumstantial evidence in the form of e-mails which it contended were sent by Neo.
The prosecution had also relied on computer forensic evidence to establish its case.
Neo, a father of one, denied sending out the e-mails, saying he had nothing to do with them and that they were probably sent by someone else.
District Judge Bala Reddy said he had carefully considered all the evidence and found that prosecution had established its case against Neo beyond any reasonable doubt.
'The evidence adduced by the prosecution leads to the irresistible conclusion that it was the accused who had sent the messages mentioned in the three charges,' he said.
There was not a 'shred' of credible evidence to support Neo's alibi, added Judge Reddy, noting that Neo's statements contradicted his own story, too.
Neither was there evidence that he was of unsound mind at the time of the offences, said the judge.
Neo's lawyer, Mr Raymond Lye, said his client, had been a civil servant for 10 years and was promoted twice - in the late 1990s and 2003 from manager to senior manager .
He had also published articles on disease control in professional journals, and won prizes and awards.
He said Neo had been seeing a psychiatrist for the past 10 years for paranoia and is in remission.
Neo will be sentenced next Friday.
He can be fined up to $100,000 or jailed for up to five years or both on each charge. -
Interesting, Neo Khoon Sing, keep a lookout for him in the coming elections.
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Neither was there evidence that he was of unsound mind at the time of the offences, said the judge
then why send these mails?
A story is that the mole is this senior civil servant from NEA who will be jailed and then he will join the SDP or WP to further discredit it. Many of the details about him in the froum thread has been deleted to cover up his track:
What if he already wanted to join opposition long ago? then this is a story cook up to discredit him before he join the oppo... First down hand for strong.
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can i digress?
u guys notice Mr Brown travel to USA and Europe and kind of promoting take bicycle ? I envy him got so much money to spend.
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Originally posted by dotaro:
There are a few theories to why Mas Selamat escaped.
1. Mas Selamat was set free due to a deal between the terrorist Org and our Gov.
2. Mas Selamat was set free due to a deal between the ISD and his family, in helping the ISD identify the other cell members.
3. Mas Selamat escape was accidental, but the delay in the search was deliberate to "let him" escape. This was because ISD was having a hard time to deal with Mas Selamat in a politically correct way, in view of the growing resentment of the muslim community towards ISD way of handling muslim radicals.
t tot they accidentally killed him in interrogation, then say he escaped to cover up?
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Originally posted by dotaro:
I thought Chee IS the mole used by the Gov to deter other people from following a needless path of resistance.
"You peasants follow what Chee do, all of you will become like Chee"
Like that ah? No harm in voting for Chee since the end result is still a PAP win. Let's vote for Dr. Chee Soon Juan.
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reading some of the stuff here, I wonder if they are allowing internet access to immates at woodbridge now ....
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Maybe Wong Kan Seng is the opposition mole, setting Mas Selamat free to destroy PAP...
and Chee is the PAP mole, trying to destroy opposition...
just like some movie i seen before..
The 33.4% who voted against the PAP are more intelligent than you think. Your conspiracy theory will not work. Try something else. Work harder to gain your master's confidence in you.
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so by posting conspiracy, it will solely help to convert opposition to PAP, and not vice versa?
your post seems to be saying this message, no??
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This mole Neo Khoon Sing is rumoured that he will meet up with CSJ in jail and joined his party. Upon successful infiltration he will be the source of intelligence for whoever his master is.
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Originally posted by dotaro:
There are a few theories to why Mas Selamat escaped.
1. Mas Selamat was set free due to a deal between the terrorist Org and our Gov.
2. Mas Selamat was set free due to a deal between the ISD and his family, in helping the ISD identify the other cell members.
3. Mas Selamat escape was accidental, but the delay in the search was deliberate to "let him" escape. This was because ISD was having a hard time to deal with Mas Selamat in a politically correct way, in view of the growing resentment of the muslim community towards ISD way of handling muslim radicals.
2. Was a possibility. Considering the new JI arrests made after his escape.
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I bet the public has no idea about the new JI arrest. you pick anyuncle or aunty off the street, and ask them if they remember Mas Selamat, you will get the yes. ask if they know about new arrest, they will say no. seems like the political cost is quite big, compared to the security gain.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
what do you think?you guys rant and rage about not having "press freedom" and can ask such stupid questions...
well, let's just say that there is NO totally independent newspaper on the face of this planet...
as an adult, you learn to question, doubt and discern the truth...
your views on all the political shit out there is idiotic and laughable.. it is like you refuse and reject your own personal responsibility and demand everything to be served to you on a silver platter while someone pops chilled peeled grapes into your mouth.. then you will complain about no one waving palm fronds to cool the air..
get a grip...
you want the MIW out, fricken show the people that the opposition has a better plan.. CSJ has no plan other than attention-whoring.. his so-called manifesto is laughable at best..
then you idiots go and tear and rip into people doing the work, gaining credibility and trust of the people by quietly working and helping the people...
i guess the biggest conspiracy theory is that the MIW actually put out CSJ to deflect and distract the people from real problems.. and real solutions... and if CSJ isn't a mole, he ought to be ashamed of himself for bringing the opposition to such disrepute...
btw.. if you are unable to figure things out, i have no love for the MIW.. in fact, i have a lot of contempt for them... however, i have even more contempt for the people who took away a viable opposition and took them back 20 years.. people like Ling and Chee..
remember.. your enemy's enemy may not be your friend...
You have consistently and repeatedly called CSJ an "attention seeking whore" - one can only wonder the "objectivity" and "agenda" in attacking one of the most vocal Opposition Person, who will dare challenge the LKY and PAP by addressing issues as it appears.
How many Opposition Personalities - besides JBJ - have been prepared to challenge the PAP by calling "a Spade" as it is, nothing more then "a Spade" ?
If you see Ling Howe Doong and CSJ - both from SDP - as bringing a viable Opposition Party back 20 years, one can only wonder if it is not Singaporeans like yourself who will claim that "i have no love for the MIW.. in fact, i have a lot of contempt for them... " but have consistenly undermined CSJ and the SDP with your negative views and distorted facts - that reinforces LKY's and PAP attempts at discreditting CSJ and the SDP.
Seriously, it is "politically dishonest" and "pretentious" Singaporeans like yourself that have put the Singapore Opposition Parties back by 20 years.
If “Attention Whore” is you favorite term in describing CSJ's efforts in exposing the sensational truth that LKY and the PAP cleverly attempt to hide, have you not qualify yourself to be a “Drama Queen” for all your ingenious creativity in slandering CSJ ?
Perhaps you are no better then being a PAP mole in SgForums revealing your true personna as a “Narcissist”
Your 'avatar' of a skidding and sliding Bear - with the four limbs wide open - reveal yourself as no better than being an "Attention Whore" - if not a true "Drama Queen".
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This Chee conspiracy thingie has been going on for about a decade.
I think we should be self-respecting forummers not to be so ignorant as to jump to conclusion when NO ONE HAS ANY PROVE OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
Prove me wrong forummers. And give yourselves some self-respects. For you and your loved ones sake.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
You have consistently and repeatedly called CSJ an "attention seeking whore" - one can only wonder the "objectivity" and "agenda" in attacking one of the most vocal Opposition Person, who will dare challenge the LKY and PAP by addressing issues as it appears.
How many Opposition Personalities - besides JBJ - have been prepared to challenge the PAP by calling "a Spade" as it is, nothing more then "a Spade" ?
If you see Ling Howe Doong and CSJ - both from SDP - as bringing a viable Opposition Party back 20 years, one can only wonder if it is not Singaporeans like yourself who will claim that "i have no love for the MIW.. in fact, i have a lot of contempt for them... " but have consistenly undermined CSJ and the SDP with your negative views and distorted facts - that reinforces LKY's and PAP attempts at discreditting CSJ and the SDP.
Seriously, it is "politically dishonest" and "pretentious" Singaporeans like yourself that have put the Singapore Opposition Parties back by 20 years.
If “Attention Whore” is you favorite term in describing CSJ's efforts in exposing the sensational truth that LKY and the PAP cleverly attempt to hide, have you not qualify yourself to be a “Drama Queen” for all your ingenious creativity in slandering CSJ ?
Perhaps you are no better then being a PAP mole in SgForums revealing your true personna as a “Narcissist”
Your 'avatar' of a skidding and sliding Bear - with the four limbs wide open - reveal yourself as no better than being an "Attention Whore" - if not a true "Drama Queen".
new conspiracy: the avatar of bear proves that he is a drama queen?
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Your 'avatar' of a skidding and sliding Bear - with the four limbs wide open - reveal yourself as no better than being an "Attention Whore" - if not a true "Drama Queen".
haha, well said.
i was being threaten the other day by someone from this forums accusing me of being racist and will report me to ISD.
when i challenge him further to provide evidence, he consistently avoid replying me and has since stop mailing me.
I further my believe there are mole who go around threaten anti govt posting.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
new conspiracy: the avatar of bear proves that he is a drama queen?
The avatar made available by SgForum give the opportunity to reflect the personna of the forumer.Bears are some of the most elegant carnivore known to man.
How often do you see a bear slide and fall except in cartoons created by human disdain towards the animal ?
If the choice of the avatar is not reflecting some "attention seeking" efforts, it surely attempted to be "dramatic".
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Originally posted by reyes:
haha, well said.
i was being threaten the other day by someone from this forums accusing me of being racist and will report me to ISD.
when i challenge him further to provide evidence, he consistently avoid replying me and has since stop mailing me.
I further my believe there are mole who go around threaten anti govt posting.
conspiracy update: people who accuse others of being racist is PAP mole?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
The avatar made available by SgForum give the opportunity to reflect the personna of the forumer.Bears are some of the most elegant carnivore known to man.
How often do you see a bear slide and fall except in cartoons created by human disdain towards the animal ?
If the choice of the avatar is not reflecting some "attention seeking" efforts, it surely attempted to be "dramatic".
well said!
Beware of people with funny animal avatars!
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Originally posted by Atobe:
The avatar made available by SgForum give the opportunity to reflect the personna of the forumer.Bears are some of the most elegant carnivore known to man.
How often do you see a bear slide and fall except in cartoons created by human disdain towards the animal ?
If the choice of the avatar is not reflecting some "attention seeking" efforts, it surely attempted to be "dramatic".
Wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!
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i was being threaten the other day by someone from this forums accusing me of being racist and will report me to ISD.
when i challenge him further to provide evidence, he consistently avoid replying me and has since stop mailing me.
reyes can you reveal the name of this fellow who used ISD to make threats against you?