Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:USA's dollar hegemony and their exploitation of world's wealth through the dollar system must end.
We must oppose the current USA financial dominance and push for global financial reform.
USA Dollar Hegemony has to go
There is an economics-textbook myth that foreign-exchange rates are determined by supply and demand based on market fundamentals. Economics tends to dismiss socio-political factors that shape market fundamentals that affect supply and demand.
Ever since 1971, when US president Richard Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard (at $35 per ounce) that had been agreed to at the Bretton Woods Conference at the end of World War II, the dollar has been a global monetary instrument that the United States, and only the United States, can produce by fiat.
World trade is now a game in which the USA produces dollars and the rest of the world produces things that dollars can buy...
http://henryckl.ipower.com/page2.html
Wen Jia Bao calls for restructuring of global financial system
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/
i think with this financial crisis u.s. would lose its clout as a world financial leader.
Many must know that a greater opposition presence will not necessarily mean a better life or a better run cabinet.
Why not?
Send in opposition to parliament to wake PAP up.
Why not?
Look at malaysian example.
The small victory for opposition shook UMNO and woke some people up.
I don't see why not in Singapore.
A premature obituary. Sure it will lose its position as the sole centre of financial trade.
That will just make the financial world more multi-polar, just like the current world order.
i think with this financial crisis u.s. would lose its clout as a world financial leader.
There must be reform of global financial system to end USA's dominance.
There will be a battle over this issue soon.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Why not?
Send in opposition to parliament to wake PAP up.
Why not?
Well, what if they decide to just have a grand coalition? There are so many other countries with such cases.
A opposition in parliament will wake PAP up? No. They will be laughing their arses of if they know that you people think that more opposition = waking them up.
I can give my competitor a 10 per cent stake in my company but he still won't be able to control my company when I have the rest of the 90 per cent. There's no impetus to wake up.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:There must be reform of global financial system to end USA's dominance.
There will be a battle over this issue soon.
Let's be real. Your job is in part due to the USA economy. Are you sure you want to see their demise?
Are you sure you want to see their demise?
Not demise.
End hegemony, so they don't go and kill people in other countries.
Well, what if they decide to just have a grand coalition?
I accept that.
In fact that is what I am aiming for.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Not demise.
End hegemony, so they don't go and kill people in other countries.
An abrupt change in hegemony is not in the interests of everyone.
And besides, which country doesn't kill people? It's all about being able to cover up your tracks better than others.
For me, I rather see a multi-polar world than a world dominated by a non-USA superpower.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:I accept that.
In fact that is what I am aiming for.
Well, if there's a grand coaltion, what if members of the opposition decide to collude with the ruling party to maintain high barriers of entry into the Parliament?
Changing a monopoly into an oligopoly isn't the progress we need.
The barriers of entry is still going to be that high. In the end, it will be the people who suffer.
For me, I rather see a multi-polar world than a world dominated by a non-USA superpower.
I support multi-polar world order.
And besides, which country doesn't kill people?
But USA now most aggressive.
Kill people everywhere.
That is why I oppose them.
Well, if there's a grand coaltion, what if members of the opposition decide to collude with the ruling party to maintain high barriers of entry into the Parliament?
Aim for opposition to win GRC first lah.
We must do things step by step.
Cannot rush.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
I support multi-polar world order.
But USA now most aggressive.
Kill people everywhere.
That is why I oppose them.
Now differentiate between the ppl of USA and the USA political system.
Just like you won't want ppl to tar you because of PAP.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Aim for opposition to win GRC first lah.
We must do things step by step.
Cannot rush.
Win GRC =/= magic pill ah.
Now differentiate between the ppl of USA and the USA political system.
I have.
Originally posted by teraexa:Well, what if they decide to just have a grand coalition? There are so many other countries with such cases.
A opposition in parliament will wake PAP up? No. They will be laughing their arses of if they know that you people think that more opposition = waking them up.
I can give my competitor a 10 per cent stake in my company but he still won't be able to control my company when I have the rest of the 90 per cent. There's no impetus to wake up.
eh haha i guess i'm foolishly hopeful of that, i don't like changes and i'm still hopeful of a PAP govt that works better than the one we have now, but to have a larger opposition, maybe pushed to 30-40% to put some pressure so if they know if anything goes wrong they can be replaced, even if by someone who isn't as good. with more seats.
there's also the likelihood of attracting better people to the opposition compared to what we have now since the situation would make it appear more positive to have a career as a non pap politician. people who can speak up inteligently in the parliament.
Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:eh haha i guess i'm foolishly hopeful of that, i don't like changes and i'm still hopeful of a PAP govt that works better than the one we have now, but to have a larger opposition, maybe pushed to 30-40% to put some pressure so if they know if anything goes wrong they can be replaced, even if by someone who isn't as good. with more seats.
there's also the likelihood of attracting better people to the opposition compared to what we have now since the situation would make it appear more positive to have a career as a non pap politician. people who can speak up inteligently in the parliament.
Agree.
However, since we have trouble attracting people to the opposition, let's think about ways to change the PAP internally since that's our best hope now.
There's a reason why the PAP was voted into power in 1959. It was because people saw hope and reason in their platform plus the candidates were worthy. Somehow, throughout the years, they started deviating.
Either we give them an external therapy (more opposition) or the internal method. Since their deviation lowered the possibility of success of external therapy, I guess the internal method is our best hope now.
I guess the internal method is our best hope now.
Must wait how many years for this method to work?
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Must wait how many years for this method to work?
Then how many years do we need to wait for the external method to work? JBJ has been at it for 10+ years, now CSJ made matters worse and it seems like the external method won't work in the near future either.
So we are screwed no matter what, I guess?
So we are screwed no matter what, I guess?
Just vote for WP next election.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Must wait how many years for this method to work?
depends on how fast the infiltrator can secure his/her own base of supporters. its well known a charismatic person can attract a large following easily and quickly(looking at how some religions work)
a willingness to offer "bribes" and favours and good timing helps to appeal to people.
if all conditions meet, results can show in the next elections but unknown to the rest of us.
same thing for external, if you want it to work you must cover it up well enough to avoid disruption.
Originally posted by teraexa:Then how many years do we need to wait for the external method to work? JBJ has been at it for 10+ years, now CSJ made matters worse and it seems like the external method won't work in the near future either.
So we are screwed no matter what, I guess?
If you are referring to personalities only, yes, i don't think we will see any changes in the forseeable future. But never rule out any unexpected events like a financial meltdown or a natural catastrophe.
depends on how fast the infiltrator can secure his/her own base of supporters.
Will it be like Lim Chin Siong again?
"Lee Kuan Yew was secretly a party with Lim Yew Hock," adds Poulgrain, "in urging the Colonial Secretary to impose the subversives ban in making it illegal for former political detainees to stand for election."
In 1959, while Lim was in prison, the PAP won the general elections under which Lee became Prime Minister, and Singapore was granted self-government by the British in all matters except for internal security, defence and external affairs.
Although Lim and other leftist political detainees were released from prison, their co-operation and alliance with Lee ended in 1961 due to disagreements over policies and strategies.
Until then the media presented the PAP as a leftwing party, indicating the pervasive and dominant influence of Lim's faction within and outside the party. Their rivalry was intense and ideological. Lee finally resorted to arrests to remove Lim and his faction.
The PAP split in 1961 saw Lim taking away with him almost the entire PAP branches and personnel to form and lead a new party, the Barisan Socialis (Socialist Front)...
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Will it be like Lim Chin Siong again?
depends on how you do it. he was popular but he never secured his position. if a split's going to happen it has to happen during a time your target can't react to, right? what if LCS worked with PAP "happily" til he won the elections and then strike to kill off all oppostion?(sounds like what LKY did?) Lim choose to act at a time his rivals have the resources and means to do him in.
just like what CSJ's doing, his timing's horrible. for those claiming he's smart because he has a phd, last time i checked he's a neuropsychologist not a lawyer he didn't study Political science either. striking openly in a time when PAP's already consolidated their rule?
if even an outsider like me can point out where he's gone wrong then chances are he's really inept in politics or he's a PAP mole out to ruin SDP.
striking openly in a time when PAP's already consolidated their rule?
Then strike at what time?
When nation collapse?
Kiasu kiasee leader, behave like a rat, you want to follow?