21st century economy but a 19th education sys-Rupert Murdoch
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25 % DROP OUT RATE AND COMPUTERS IN OZ SCHOOLS
In a 2005 ABS report,read diagram below ,
Only 69 % teenagers in full time education!!
How many of u know oz eduaction system students drop
out rate is 25%?read below then u know.
Their target:
up to $1 million per high school to allow every Australian student in Years 9 to 12 to have access to their own school computer, with the aim of lifting school retention rates from 75 to 90 per cent by 2020.
I am wandering if this mean one DESIGNATED computer for one student OR
every student in a class can have one computer
at the same time on the alloted session for using computer.
If it is the latter case,then what can I say?
Ask SG students then u know why.
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NEWS Corporation chairman and chief executive Rupert Murdoch
said Oz eduaction
"We have a 21st century economy with a 19th century education system, and it is leaving too many children behind.
"That is an injustice to these citizens and their future burden on Australian society."
He feared "tens of thousands of Australians" would be denied opportunities "if we continue to tolerate a public education system that effectively writes off whole segments of Australians".
http://au.news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=murdoch&fr=yfp-t-501&ei=UTF-8
The Courier Mail - Mon, 03 Nov 08:55:00 2008
AUSTRALIA'S peak industry body has backed News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch in his criticism of the outdated national education system.
AAP via Yahoo!7 News - Mon, 03 Nov 14:36:31 2008
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says Rupert Murdoch is right in calling for an education overhaul.
ABC via Yahoo!7 News - Mon, 03 Nov 15:12:00 2008
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says he agrees with Rupert Murdoch's blunt assessment that Australia's education system is outdated.
The Government will invest up to $1.5 million per high school, to create trades training centres in all of Australia's 2,650 secondary schools and up to $1 million per high school to allow every Australian student in Years 9 to 12 to have access to their own school computer, with the aim of lifting school retention rates from 75 to 90 per cent by 2020.
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references
drop out rate from 25 to 10 % on different states
Prime Minister of Australia - Education Revolution
drop out rate varys from 10 to 30%
Prime Minister of Australia - Media Release - First Steps towards a National Curriculum
Singapore drop out rate is less than 2%
Ministry of Education, Singapore: Press Releases
... manpower in the form of a second Full Time ... of the early signals include high absenteeism rates, little or ... to examine how the school drop-out rate in Singapore ...
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Regions play a part in high pupil drop-out rates - theage.com.au
Nearly half of teenage boys in the north-western suburbs of Melbourne do not finish secondary school, highlighting huge regional differences in the drop-out
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4102.0 - Australian Social Trends, 2005
Only 69 % in full time education!!
Education & Work: Young People at Risk in the Transition From Education to Work
In 2004, 14% of young people aged 15-19 years (193,800 young people) were not engaged in full-time education or full-time employment, or in a combination of part-time education and part-time employment.Melbourne high school - FAQ
- [ 翻译æ¤é¡µ BETA ]Melbourne high school - Alia College - FAQ .... A: Alia graduates rarely drop out of university courses. The drop out rate is said to be very high. .
Melbourne rated Australia&squo;s most liveable city | Herald Sun
- [ 翻译æ¤é¡µ BETA ]20 Aug 2008 ... Levels of volunteering, proportion of freestanding houses and high school dropout rates were also considered. Melbourne clinched the "most ...
Melbournes North and West Left Behind
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MELBURNIANS living in the western and northern suburbs are second-class citizens starved of access to health care, transport links and public services and facilities.
They die younger, suffer illness more often and pay more for petrol, electricity and council rates.
A Sunday Herald Sun investigation into infrastructure and amenities across Melbourne has found a picture of a divided city.mmm
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I wished you would just organise your posts in a more understandable manner. It hurts just to try to understand what you're trying to say.
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oh yes.
i am wandering how education related to GDP growth.
SG GDP growth rate is much higher than Oz in the past few decades!!
In the past decade,SG GDP range from 4 to 7%,
with the exception of 1997 and SARS.
While Oz from 1.5 to 5%.
SG Annual GDP at 2000 Market Prices and Real Economic Growth
below Oz--GDP
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oh i am sorry.Duplicate thread.Pl post to another thread.
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NUS and NTU ranking drop
The Times London Higher Education Supplement has ranked NUS and NTU at 33 and 69 respectively compared to 19 and 61 the previous year. This call for alarm. Our rankings have dropped! Though the reports still considered the two universities as world class, they are dropping and will drop out of the top 100 soon. Jialat. -
2007 World University Rankings: NUS, NTU down
4 Comments Posted by Nubeals on Friday, November 9, 2007 at 7:40 AM.
National University of Singapore (NUS) appeared at #18 in the 2004 Times Higher Education Supplement (THES) World University Rankings but most Singaporeans weren't aware of it. When it showed up at rank #22 in the 2005 Rankings, NUSians celebrated their success. In 2006 it was better - NUS jumped to spot #19. Everyone probably thought at the time that whatever NUS administration, faculty and students were doing, it was just right - that they were moving in the right direction. Which is why this year might come as a shock to many.
NUS is ranked #33 in the THES World University Rankings to be released this year - a rank shared with the University of British Columbia (Canada) and University of Queensland (Australia). It is now ranked lower than McGill University (Canada), which has gone up to secure rank #12.
Even Nanyang Technological University (NTU) has fallen from grace, going down from #61 in 2006 to #69, but that is not much if you look at all the others that have fallen harder.
University of California, Berkeley (US) is down to #22 from #8 (that is a big fall for that university); University of Geneva (Switzerland) is down to #105 from #39; Eindhoven University of Technology (Netherlands) is down to #130 from #67; Macquarie University (Australia) is down to 168 from #82; UNAM (Mexico) is down to #192 from #74; and Washington University in St. Louis (US) is down to #161 from #48!
But we can see big uprises as well: UniCAMP (Brazil) is up from #448 to #177 (what a leap!); University of Florida (US) is up from #226 to #135; University of Western Ontario (Canada) is up from #215 to #126; Ohio State University (US) is up from #219 to #120; and University of Waterloo (Canada) is up from #204 to #112! -
read what did PM say
Mr Murdoch has made some comments today about education. Can I say this - that he is right. For a 21st century economy Australia needs a 21st century education system. It means Australia must have an education revolution. And what we invest in our pre-schools, what we invest in our schools, in our high schools, in our TAFEs and in our universities and the quality of that investment including the quality of teaching - unless we get this right we will fall behind the rest of the world long term. So Mr Murdoch’s right. A 21st century economy demands a 21st century education system.
An education revolution is our response, investing in the quantity of money that we put in to the education system, the quality of that investment, but also making sure that we are pulling the States and Territories together in such common projects as a single national curriculum.
That’s what Australia needs for the future together with a high speed broadband revolution, which will turbocharge education in this country in the 21st century. That is core business for us as a Government, core business together with our responsibility for the general economy and supporting growth and jobs in what will be a difficult, tough and ugly period ahead, and also taking whatever action is necessary to continue to maintain the stability of the Australian financial system.
03 Nov 2008Press Conference, Brisbane
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A failure of the Singapore education system
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I think that the main purpose of education is to impart knowledge and comprehension ability so that human beings will be able to understand what goes on around them and subsequently, be able to make informed decisions by themselves.
Being a product of the Singapore education system, I would say that the system is truly one of the best in terms of producing people who can ace examinations. Unfortunately, the system fails spectacularly in preparing one to make informed decisions about one critical aspect of life, and that is finances.
Of course, some people would point out that we are promoting entrepreneurship in schools. That teaches you, or rather encourages you to make money. However, it does not teach you how to spend money wisely. With the entrepreneurship drive, it seems to me that we are teaching that the solution to money problems is even more money.
This is a huge fallacy. How many people can actually be so sucessful at entrepreneurship that money is never a problem ever again? Most people either end up being a salaried worker, or perhaps owning a small-medium enterprise. For many of us, money will always be a constant headache.
It need not be a headache if we had the knowledge of how to manage our money properly. We need to teach our kids that the proper way to financial freedom is control of spending. It is certainly a whole lot easier to control spending compared to controlling income. We usually can make decisions on how much to spend, but we usually have little say over how much income we get.
It is not surprising that many people, especially young people are in debt. Our society has glamourised consumption. Symbols of success are often material objects, such as the size of the car, the size of the property, the size of the bank account and so forth. Credit is easily available through credit cards and easy loan schemes. It is small wonder why many young people are in debt.
So, what did we do to address the problem? Financial counselling avenues are set up to help these people. While it is good to have financial counselling to help those who are already in debt, the question now is why are we not doing anything to prevent them from getting into debt in the first place?
Personally, I didn’t understand anything about financial planning until I came to university and made myself take courses in accounting and finance. It wasn’t rocket science, but it opened my eyes, especially when I learnt the power of interest. I suspect that many peoeple don’t even know the exact cost of taking up a loan or racking up credit card debt because they do not understand how interest works.
Take for example a car loan. If you pay cash for the mid-size car (e.g. the Nissan Sunny or Mitsubishi Lancer), it’ll probably cost you about $55,000 upfront. The person trying to sell you the loan tells you that it only works out to be a monthly sum of about $700 over ten years, with zero downpayment. For a graduate with a good degree earning $3000 a month, $700 is not that big a deal. However, if you do the math, $700 x 12 months x 10 years = $84,000. Over ten years, you paid $29,000 of interest to the institution that gave you the loan.
Shocking figures? Actually, $29,000 is not your actual loss. If the money had been invested instead of being given to the bank, you would have earned interest on it. Assuming that you invest $2,900 annually over 10 years at a return of 5%, the $29,000 would have been worth about $36,500 at the end of the ten years. With $36,500, I can probably go on annual 2 week trips to any part of the world for the next 10 years.
To illustrate the concept of how interest can work in your favour, let’s take the same example again. Assuming that you invest $2,900 annually over 30 years at a return of 5%, you would have paid a total of $2,900 x 30 = $87,000 for the investment. However, your return at the end of the 30 years is about $192,000. You earned $105,000 by simply doing nothing but investing your money wisely. Of course, if you increase the amount of your investment, or if you manage to achieve more than 5% returns, you will certainly get back alot more money.
Therefore, I really think that our education system should incorporate some form of financial education. The concept of interest is not not some esotoric concept. It’s something that can be easily explained to the person in the street. Armed with this knowledge, I am sure it will save many people from suffering future hardships. For those who still get into huge debt when armed with sufficient financial knowledge, at least they suffer not as a result of ignorance.
While providing simple financial education to our young is not all that difficult, I wonder why has it not been done. The only explanation that I can come up with is that it is not in the interest of the economy to have the bulk of the population being financial savvy. Interest accounts for a huge chunk of income for many financial institutions. If people are not going to get into huge debt, how can these institutions make money?
If you take an economic perspective, debt is probably a good thing for the economy because it increases the circulation of money in the economy. However, from a moral perspective, debt is not a good thing, especially when people are unable to pay their debts. Bankruptcy has a social stigma attached to it. The individual who is in debt often will have to worry about how to pay the debts, and this can strain relationships with their loved ones. It can affect their ability to work, or even their ability to function as a normal human being.
It’s really about time that we consider implementing financial education. If we can have things like moral education and sex education, why not financial education? After all, an education is abut equipping a person to be able to make informed decisions, no?
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Bullying common in Singapore primary, secondary schools: survey 
A survey of 4,000 students in primary and secondary schools in Singapore showed that some 95 percent of them have experienced bullying at school.
According to Channel NewsAsia report on Tuesday, the majority of the respondents have been bullied verbally such as being teased while more than 2,800 cases of physical bullying like being kicked, hit or pushed were reported.
In primary schools, 46 percent of bullies occurred in canteens and 42 percent in the school field, while in secondary schools, 38 percent of bullying cases happened in classrooms, 35 percent in canteens and 23 percent in toilets, according to the survey.
It also found that students having been bullies felt angry, sad and depressed, which experts said could lead to low self-esteem and a "tendency to enter a criminal career."
Unfortunately, a majority of victims and bystanders were found too scared to speak up, which made many teachers unaware of the actual bullying situation, the report said.
It quoted the Education Ministry as saying that bullying in schools is regarded as a serious matter in the city state, and the ministry has been taking appropriate disciplinary measures on bullies and carrying out counseling and other preventive actions as well.
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Bullying in school on the rise Written by Karina Kwan, on Tuesday, 20 June 2006
Bullying is on the rise, according to results in a survey. But this time, it doesn't take the usual physical form that people know it to be. Cyber bullying is the new kid on the block. And this trend is disturbing because bullying now trespasses the safe boundaries of home while still inflicting the psychological hurt on those receiving it. Because of the anonymous nature of cyber bullying, the insults can be more hurting than a face to face encounter. However, most students also felt that despite this happening, they always have the option to ignore it by switching off their mobile phones or computers. -
singapore education now fuk up.. really
people out there dying of hunger..
but government go put money in this "education" that nv work
in return to earn more taxs...
but those ppl who is scrapping for food is not taken care off
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Originally posted by youyayu:
singapore education now fuk up.. really
people out there dying of hunger..
but government go put money in this "education" that nv work
in return to earn more taxs...
but those ppl who is scrapping for food is not taken care off
Have u been eduacted in SG?
If so,it proved it worked lah---u can write!! Congra!!
If education in oz is damn so good,why so many people leaving Oz?
About 150,000 in and 75,000 out!!
Half of those leaving were born in oz!!
PERMANENT ARRIVALS AND PERMANENT DEPARTURES
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Latestproducts/3412.0Feature%20Article22006-07?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=3412.0&issue=2006-07&num=&view=
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Hi lionnoisy,
have you been educated in SG
If so, how come u dunt can write or read proper english
it proved it dun work lah-- u cant write!! Congra!!
if SG education is so good, why yr english still so bad?
4,228 posts in and 4,228 posts all bad englishs!!
all of those written were bad!
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to help lionnoisy:
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Singapore's education system is very bad.
A good education system will have little need for tuition, yet the tuition industry is flourishing very very well here.
The idea and concept of moving away from rote learning is very good, but the implementation is, in my opinion, very bad. Rote learning is still very much present in the system, albeit in a slightly different form.
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If u have a kid in primary school,how would u feel if the principal allows
a photographer scouting in the school for naked model?
U may say u have to give your consent before your kid
being shot naked.Ya.i agree and respect your view.
My response.Go to hell!!
Oz state MOE say:Fine!
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No action against Henson model school--
"to scout for (naked)talent in the (Primary) school's playground."
THE school principal who allowed Bill Henson to scout for models in her schoolyard will not face disciplinary action.
Mr Henson was at the centre of an uproar earlier this year over a Sydney exhibition of his photographs depicting naked children.
Ms Pike said today the investigation found Ms Knight, who is now principal of Coburg West Primary School, had not worked outside department guidelines.
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pl click to see full photo
Bill Henson's master piece.--who went to primaty school to scout
for Naked talent.Victoria Eduaction Minister said
the Principal had not worked outside department guidelines.
"We do have confidence that we have strong guidelines in place regarding strong visitor access to our schools but of course there's always scope for making sure these are well understood and implemented within our system," Ms Pike# said.
#Victoria Eduaction Minister
Australia: Art Magazine Publishes Photo Of Naked Child On July ...
Oz PM Rudd slams art depicting naked children
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Oh we are Singaporean and dunt allow our kids taken photo naked.
After they are 21,we cannot control lah....
Australia is really a free country--free for bad guys!!
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Cleared ... former St Kilda Park Primary School principal Sue Knight was investigated by the Victorian Education Department for inviting Bill Henson to scout for (Naked)talent in the school's playground
what can i say!
FYI.
Khingt who is now principal of Coburg West Primary School, had not worked outside department guidelines.
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Singapore Teachers by day, Bar Dancers by Night
Singapore's Bar Dancers
Dancing is their secret, something they don't even tell to their friends and relatives, which is why many did not want to reveal their real names. A company that provides models and dancers for events, said bar dancers have a variety of day jobs. Some are engineers, lawyers, secretaries, and even teachers. -
Most local teachers are products of the educational system and our changing society and it is appalling to read of teachers being convicted or investigated for molestation or outrage of modesty.
A week ago, in the first case of its kind here in Singapore, a female teacher was charged with having sex with an underage student. And there was a recent media report about teachers moonlighting as bar top/pole dancers.
Besides paper qualifications, are teachers’ character assessed before they are hired? When more than 90 per cent of Singapore students rely on private tutors and commercial tuition centres as helping hands towards attaining academic excellence, I wonder what exactly are the roles of current school teachers?
What has gone wrong that teachers who spend at least six hours a day, five days a week with their students are not commanding sufficient respect? Do they themselves lack discipline in the first place? Are they worthy of respect in the first place?
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Singapore Teacher seduces Student
IN THE first case of its kind here, a former woman school teacher has been hauled to court for having sex with a 15-year-old boy six times.
The 32-year-old woman, who cannot be named to protect the identity of the boy, was produced in a district court last month.
The alleged offences took place over a two-month period between March 10 and May 8 this year.
Under the Penal Code, any person convicted of sexual penetration of a minor under 16 can be jailed for up to 10 years or fined or both.
The woman who is represented by Senior Counsel Sant Singh will be back in court on Nov 7 for a pre-trial conference.
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Female predator
Adult-minor trysts where the adult is a woman are rare in Singapore, say experts
By Shuli Sudderuddin
A recent report here of a 32-year-old woman charged with having sex with a 15-year-old minor, her former student, made many sit up.
It is believed to be the first case here of an alleged adult-minor tryst in which the adult is a woman. The case will be heard on Nov 7.
But one psychiatrist, when contacted by The Sunday Times, spoke of an almost similar tryst, except that the teenager, also a former student, was older and already doing national service at the time.
The woman, a former secondary school teacher in her 30s, had gone to see Dr Adrian Wang, a consultant psychiatrist at Gleneagles Medical Centre, seeking treatment for depression.
She told him she had felt lonely and was feeling vulnerable when she became intimate with her ex-student.
Such cases are less uncommon in the United States. Back in the 1990s, for instance, former teacher Mary Kay Letourneau was jailed for raping her former sixth-grade student. The couple had two daughters and in 2005, she married him. She was 43 and he was 22.
Psychiatrists and counsellors here said that such liaisons are rare though they do occur. Mr Sam Kuna, executive director of Teen Challenge, which addresses teen issues and family crises, said teenagers may develop an infatuation for people in authority whom they admire.
'However, this usually does not approach intimacy as the adult draws the boundaries,' he said.
The experts estimate that adult men are at least four times more likely than adult women to have sexual feelings for a minor.
Retired police officer and private investigator Lionel De Souza said he has investigated relations between male tutors and their underage female students, but the recent court case allegedly involving an older woman and an underage boy was the first he has heard of.
Some psychiatrists said they do see women patients who admit to being attracted to younger men and even minors. Often, it is a passing phase rather than a sign of a disorder like paedophilia.
Said Dr Brian Yeo, a consultant psychiatrist at Mount Elizabeth Medical Centre: 'It's now more acceptable for older women to show interest in younger men. It's an issue only if they are minors.'
Dr Simon Siew, also a consultant psychiatrist at Mount Elizabeth, said the woman's need to be with a minor can stem from an inferiority complex due to problems such as failed relationships. 'She might want to feel that she's still attractive,' he said.
Dr Wang said such women may be going through a rough patch or have a borderline personality disorder which leads to the inability to form stable relationships.
'The boy in the relationship may also be generally mature for his age,' he added.
With regard to the school environment, Mr Kuna said: 'Teachers can be very caring and the teenager may not be getting the same kind of attention from his mother.'
Such a relationship is likely to have an effect on the minor. 'He may have relationship difficulties later in life and avoid women. The boy may feel betrayed and may harbour anger,' said psychologist Daniel Koh.
Most counsellors and psychiatrists felt such cases will remain uncommon.
Still, Dr Siew said increasing awareness might lead to a rise in the number of such cases surfacing.
He added that with children gaining knowledge about sex at an earlier age, 'more such cases may occur, though they are likely to remain undiscovered'. -
seems like lionnoisy used his infamous wall of text tactic to drown out what I said earlier
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why the hell is everyone doing this wall of text thing??
is there a rule that who ever post more words win???
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Actually I only employ wall of text in lionnoisy threads... for the simple reason he creates these threads to do such a thing, no matter how ridiculus or illogical his stuff may be. Replying to him with a proper post is a waste of time.
Basically he's not asking questions about Australia, he's just trying to "display" all the negative news he can find about them, he's not actually even interested in the "issues" he raises... so the most apporiate response is not to try to adress his posts, but simply post back negative news about our country.
That works very well to shut him up.
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In other words, don't come into lionnoisy threads with the expectation of any proper discussion at all...
The funny thing is, when you do the thing he has been doing in his threads to him, he starts making noise about how you are preventing him from spamming his own thread with your spam.
LOL.
