[b]Opportunities given to poly grads to enter a local uni.[/
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Hi.
i was just doing a project regarding the issue whether there are sufficient opportunities given to poly grads to enter a local university and whether if rejected by a local uni and accepted by foreign uni, will they be less inclined to return to singapore? i would like as much comments to be given by all. thanks. -
i personally feels that more poly student can be accepted into the local uni... provided that their results in poly as well as in their O levels are good lah...
But then the problem lies in the absence of a standardized entrance examinations....
its is difficult if not unjust to set a percentage for poly student that will be permitted to join local U... each individuals should be given an opportunity to go to the local U on their own merits against others.... under a meritocracy system...
BUT therein lies a problem... the courses taken by A level student is different from poly student... and because of this bi-track system... its difficult to set a generally acceptable standdardized entrance examinations... that would satisfy both groups...
My suggestion is that... ALL poly student should be given an opportunity to take an entrance examination at the local U, in their respective faculty of studies of choice......
if they make the grade.. they should be permitted to enter local U...and the local U should expand a particular faculty if need to meet the demand...
this way... there is no complaint on the existance of preferences for A level student or poly student.. each entered university on their own merit... they pass.. they enter.. they dont pass... dont bother blaming others...
alternatively... we can remove the bi-track system and go for a mono track version...
all O-level student can only proceed to A level... no more poly...
all poly campus are combined and reformed to become singapore's number 4 technology univerisity handing out degrees and doctorates.... instead of diploma.... all current diploma holders can convert the diploma to degree after passing a A level equivalent examination...
Foreign uni... some good ... some bad.. some okay okay... but the problem is worst... how to measure their credibility??
BUT i personally feels that... as long as you went oversea and study full time in a respectable university of global standing.. your degree should be just as acceptable to a local Uni degree....
BUT if you take those correspondence, part time, fast track, buy over the counter degree.... i think... no need for me to say... you also paiseh to call yourself a degree holder.... -
i grad frm poly, although my results not bad (As / Bs)but still canot enter a local university...
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it is sad.... when the many foreign undergrad i met during my uni life cant speak even proper english.... many i believe are not even as good as our local poly diploma holders... but then i am not in a position to question the university's practice.. which is also under the purview of someone higher up...Originally posted by Xiao Long Nu:i grad frm poly, although my results not bad (As / Bs)but still canot enter a local university... -
I graduate from poly years decade back. Re-enrolled for A-diploma and graduate. By now, I'm in working class. I tried to enrolled into NUS for part-time degree, it was tough when I saw their schedule.Originally posted by Xiao Long Nu:i grad frm poly, although my results not bad (As / Bs)but still canot enter a local university...
I subsequently enrolled in SIM and had graduated only last year after 2.5 year slogging. But it was better as you have networked with many people of same calible or higher.
While working earlier, I have save enough to pay for two sets of course fee, my wife and I study part-time together. No need to get loans from whoever.
It will be a credible suggestion. Please make sure that your uni to be enrolled is accedited to some professional institution and recognised by the govt. (If you intend to eat govt rice) -
Share with you all my experience with NTU and NUS.
I was from Ngee Ann last time. Weeks before I ORD, i called NUS and asked, i want to apply for NUS Arts to specialise in Psychology... they ask me many questions, then say ok will send me a package because Poly Grad diff from JC. I say ok.
So i waited, after ORD came the package. I happy fill in the forms, then suddenly realised that there are no ARTS options on the form! I immediately called them and their stopid response was oh, because I was in Business in NP, i must do Business in NUS, cannot do Arts becos they want to "HELP" us concentrate on one area of study. Bulls to them. So i said ok, is there anyway I can apply for ARTS. The lady say Yes, that i need to come down to NUS to get a special form. But then what she said next got me angry, she said" but i advise you not to bother because there will be more than enough JC students to take up all the places."
I was like shit, its as though we are not better than JC students, 2nd CLASS citizens ah we all poly cannot go NUS ah, stopid sia, so now i study in MIS do Curtin Uni Business, happier can dfinish in 1.5 yrs. better still, who cares for a NUS cert. -
i apply for university for 3 times liaozz my result got A and B but still can't go in,my friend almost same result but malaysian can go in. Now my taking Degree in informatics computer school haizz no choice...
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the only immediate solution i have is simply this...
get the local uni to provide an entrance examination for all poly student who wish to join their respective faculties of choice...
no point saying you have A or B in poly... because they probably have little regards for poly grades... but they cant refuse a grade that they have to give in an entrance examination...
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hmmm.. shld not be a problem. think they look at O lvl result oso. some of my frns with this result manage to get in. wat course and where u applying for?Originally posted by Xiao Long Nu:i grad frm poly, although my results not bad (As / Bs)but still canot enter a local university... -
it's true. sometime univ treat poly grad veri different. but ur case seems veri bad.Originally posted by gasband:Share with you all my experience with NTU and NUS.
I was from Ngee Ann last time. Weeks before I ORD, i called NUS and asked, i want to apply for NUS Arts to specialise in Psychology... they ask me many questions, then say ok will send me a package because Poly Grad diff from JC. I say ok.
So i waited, after ORD came the package. I happy fill in the forms, then suddenly realised that there are no ARTS options on the form! I immediately called them and their stopid response was oh, because I was in Business in NP, i must do Business in NUS, cannot do Arts becos they want to "HELP" us concentrate on one area of study. Bulls to them. So i said ok, is there anyway I can apply for ARTS. The lady say Yes, that i need to come down to NUS to get a special form. But then what she said next got me angry, she said" but i advise you not to bother because there will be more than enough JC students to take up all the places."
I was like shit, its as though we are not better than JC students, 2nd CLASS citizens ah we all poly cannot go NUS ah, stopid sia, so now i study in MIS do Curtin Uni Business, happier can dfinish in 1.5 yrs. better still, who cares for a NUS cert.
this is wat i feel at NTU. it is not juz the admin staff, but even the lecturer treat poly grad differently. most of the time, they think poly grad r not good at theoretical stuffs. really hate this kind of stereotype -
i noe one fren, he grad frm poly then his results nt so gd...he go apply nus after workin for 2 yrs...then nus reject him ....after few months he change new job ..move to MNC company..then he go apply nus again...then they offered him !...mus be NUS see he gt high pay....
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isszit.... stupid school wan $$ oni...Originally posted by Xiao Long Nu:i noe one fren, he grad frm poly then his results nt so gd...he go apply nus after workin for 2 yrs...then nus reject him ....after few months he change new job ..move to MNC company..then he go apply nus again...then they offered him !...mus be NUS see he gt high pay.... -
now got SMU wat..
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u from poly? Go to talk to your MP, they can help.Originally posted by xelat1:i apply for university for 3 times liaozz my result got A and B but still can't go in,my friend almost same result but malaysian can go in. Now my taking Degree in informatics computer school haizz no choice...
Mi got friends who get into U after MP write letter to the institutions.
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not true leh, i heard a lot from mi lecturers las time that they prefer students from poly as they are more mature and hav firmer foundations.Originally posted by shock1234:it's true. sometime univ treat poly grad veri different. but ur case seems veri bad.
this is wat i feel at NTU. it is not juz the admin staff, but even the lecturer treat poly grad differently. most of the time, they think poly grad r not good at theoretical stuffs. really hate this kind of stereotype
I guess different pple react differently.
That's life -
like that oso canOriginally posted by sgboy2004:u from poly? Go to talk to your MP, they can help.
Mi got friends who get into U after MP write letter to the institutions. 
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so power ar..Originally posted by sgboy2004:u from poly? Go to talk to your MP, they can help.
Mi got friends who get into U after MP write letter to the institutions. -
my mp is the pm
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i am serious.Originally posted by shock1234:like that oso can -
it is a GRC area rite, can get other MP to write mahOriginally posted by Master -_-:my mp is the pm
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this is wat i heard from lecturers las time. remember on my first year before the sch starts, during the meeting wiz mentors. remember got two mentors said that poly students r poor at certain subjects and tends complain abt it. that's juz one of incidentsOriginally posted by sgboy2004:not true leh, i heard a lot from mi lecturers las time that they prefer students from poly as they are more mature and hav firmer foundations.
I guess different pple react differently.
That's life
one thing i noe is that quite many poly students is top of the batch during the convocation. -
the world is like tat 1, some pull string lorOriginally posted by xelat1:so power ar.. -
issit call backdoor ahOriginally posted by sgboy2004:i am serious. -
sort of lah, but your grades cannot be too bad laOriginally posted by shock1234:issit call backdoor ah -
but then those of u whose results got As & Bs (not bad 1), may i know what polys r u from???
Is it true that local unis show preference to SP and NP?????