Originally posted by eagle:not the same as JC
Only can buy bus pass and MRT pass. But if we count like that, poly students can also buy bus pass and MRT pass.
Poly are consider non academy students, more on technical and practically side, ah beng and ah lian like me also can attend, by JC is different, need higher score,...so better treated lor.
but anyway, i drove to poly
Somebody here very rich eh... can afford to drive to poly.
@Quincey
Well, why is the government taking such high risk investments in Ah Tiong. Sponsoring them so many things when they have such high chance of bailing compared to Singaporean students? I'm not in Engine / Science or Computing Faculty, so my interaction with them is minimal. But from what I understand, they are not being competitive here. They just mess up the Bell Curve, reducing Singaporean students' chances of attaining upper class honors. Best part, they hop away to other countries where the pasture is greener.
Are they ostracized in school? I can't say. They form such tight circles of friends among their "Tong Xiangs" anyway. Not all Singaporean students are that anal or hardworking to go about actively ostracizing them. The few ah tiongs are know and on good terms with, are fairly sociable guys n girls who make an effort to bridge the divide. The Singaporean's in our club don't reject them at all.
It is unfair to pin the blame on Singaporean students for their lack of desire for socializing. The less Singaporean friends they make, the easier, it is for biased and mythical views of Chinamen to form, eg, they are smelly, they talk loudly and arrogantly, etc.
scholarship with no bonds means they don't expect them to stay in singapore... or rather, they expect them to leave. so what's the issue?
Their main issue, I guess, is why give scholarships with no bonds in the first place?
anyone saw TNP on 18/11/2008 edition?
i saw the headlines about this news: School says boy returns to China to visit ill dad.
Never bought the newspaper though, will check online if they publish this news.
Originally posted by eagle:Their main issue, I guess, is why give scholarships with no bonds in the first place?
Actually, bond-free scholarships are not uncommon elsewhere. Corporations, universities and other institutions would pay for or subsidise an individual's education if they deem them to have plenty of potential, as long as they maintain a minimum grade or produce outstanding projects.
Here's the link if you're curious
Of course, our universities can't do that at the moment, being publicly funded and all.
Originally posted by Quincey:Ar. Uncle Andrew is always angry.. Im sure everyone here is used to it by now.
I understand where you are coming from. I sorta faced/may face the same situation as you did. That is why I said the government has to invest more on it's people! But we do need foreign scholars coming in, but at the same time we do not want these scholars just using as a stepping stone to other things, as such we have to beef up the liberal nature of the current policy, the anybody just come mentality just would not do. But that said, think abt it, most of these scholars who leave their country are ppl who aspire for greater things, right? So by that, every scholar we sponsor is a risk we take. But a risk we need to take, given our situation. I haven't been in singapore schools in a while, but what I hear from my friends, these china ppl are being outwardly ostracized in school, and made to be unwelcomed. I know I'll be shot by Uncle Andrew for saying this. But how we expect to keep the very best, when we don't even welcome them as one of our own. That is the struggle for our government, there can pour in millions into this, but if Singaporeans are not supportive of this influx, it just wouldnt work out. Which is why they need to do more for Singaporeans to make them feel that they are not being ignored at the expense of these foreign scholars. To this, I think the administration has not done well.
it wasn't always like this, when i was in primary to secondary school, we had an ocassional addition from china every now and then and back then being ostracized was rare especially against PRCs. you don't even hear people talking about who's from china. no one cares, if anything we see them as people who did poorly for eng and great for mother tongue.come to think about it, i don't even hear about pei du mamas. we thought it was great to have a PRC student in our class, it made us feel special.
its different nowdays, they're streaming in at a rate like our Town council fund going out and bringing all sorts of habits/behaviours we don't agree with. we're not saints, not saying we don't have faults or anything but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate them and their habits. if they're getting ostracized, its not for no reason.
while theres a need to be understanding, it stops after a certain point, you don't go to another person's house and behave badly.
anyway I don't hate them, i just don't like large numbers of them, not to the point i feel like a foreigner in my own country. i understand the need for talents but not to the point when i can walk down the streets with 2-300 people and it seems like only 50 and singaporeans.
Originally posted by Kuali Baba:Here's the link if you're curious
Of course, our universities can't do that at the moment, being publicly funded and all.
Actually NUS does offer bond-free scholarship.
Just that my GP grade wasn't up to standard in the first application :(
Originally posted by eagle:Actually NUS does offer bond-free scholarship.
Just that my GP grade wasn't up to standard in the first application :(
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